What happened with Lebron James Topps Chrome RCs? - Page 25

KhalDrogo · 01-19-2021, 02:59 PM

Points record may not be baked in all the way, but it is an absolute lock barring a career ending injury. He’s 3790 points behind. He’s averaging 23.7 in only 32.2 minutes per game so far this year. A look at the ppg needed going forward.

19: 200 games
20: 190 games
21: 181 games
22: 173 games
23: 165 games
24: 158 games
25: 152 games

Conservatively, say he plays 50 games the rest of the season. That puts the record in reach sometime in the 2023-24 or 2024-25 season. So this year plus two, or this year plus three. Age 38 or 39. Does anyone really think he won’t still be playing at a pretty high level then?

MikawlBBC · 01-19-2021, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Points record may not be baked in all the way, but it is an absolute lock barring a career ending injury. He’s 3790 points behind. He’s averaging 23.7 in only 32.2 minutes per game so far this year. A look at the ppg needed going forward.

19: 200 games
20: 190 games
21: 181 games
22: 173 games
23: 165 games
24: 158 games
25: 152 games

Conservatively, say he plays 50 games the rest of the season. That puts the record in reach sometime in the 2023-24 or 2024-25 season. So this year plus two, or this year plus three. Age 38 or 39. Does anyone really think he won’t still be playing at a pretty high level then?

I agree with your philosophy here. Career ending injury is only real thing that will prevent him from achieving it. Also, the timeframe may be longer given how the Lakers sleep walk through regular season (i.e. Choking loss to GS last night).

KhalDrogo · 01-19-2021, 03:16 PM

It is remarkable that he has been able to live up to what was seemingly insurmountable hype. I remember his first mention in SLAM magazine, watching every high school game that ESPN broadcasted, his decision to sign with Nike, his first NBA game, etc. Crazy how long ago that was.

pingbling23 · 01-19-2021, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It is remarkable that he has been able to live up to what was seemingly insurmountable hype. I remember his first mention in SLAM magazine, watching every high school game that ESPN broadcasted, his decision to sign with Nike, his first NBA game, etc. Crazy how long ago that was.

No joke, I was a senior in high school. Now I’m 12 years from retirement lol.

MikawlBBC · 01-19-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It is remarkable that he has been able to live up to what was seemingly insurmountable hype. I remember his first mention in SLAM magazine, watching every high school game that ESPN broadcasted, his decision to sign with Nike, his first NBA game, etc. Crazy how long ago that was.

I remember watching his first NBA game while I was still in HS and in absolute awe. I had stopped cards long before due to the 90s wax and puberty lol... but it should have occurred to me at that moment I was watching history and grab a few RCs...

Craphit · 01-19-2021, 04:47 PM

Is this assuming he plays every game in subsequent seasons and averages 23.7 PPG when he's 39? The reddit post I linked on the previous page of this thread does a great job of breaking down scenarios.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Points record may not be baked in all the way, but it is an absolute lock barring a career ending injury. He’s 3790 points behind. He’s averaging 23.7 in only 32.2 minutes per game so far this year. A look at the ppg needed going forward.

19: 200 games
20: 190 games
21: 181 games
22: 173 games
23: 165 games
24: 158 games
25: 152 games

Conservatively, say he plays 50 games the rest of the season. That puts the record in reach sometime in the 2023-24 or 2024-25 season. So this year plus two, or this year plus three. Age 38 or 39. Does anyone really think he won’t still be playing at a pretty high level then?

KingLBJMJ · 01-19-2021, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Craphit

Is this assuming he plays every game in subsequent seasons and averages 23.7 PPG when he's 39? The reddit post I linked on the previous page of this thread does a great job of breaking down scenarios.

We don't know. Pure Oxygen in hyperbaric chamber does wonders. Proven in research that it delays telemorase - slows down aging. Rumor has it, Kingjames have a set up in his house and simulate higher altitude too. So yeah; he got all the money. I am sure at age 38 he will still be as good as he is now. Science has advanced so much that you got the money, you have access to all gears and gadget.

Also based on real experience as a previous diver, pure oxygen in hyperbaric chamber speeds up healing. I was blown away how fast my body recovered from injury.

Craphit · 01-19-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLBJMJ

We don't know. Pure Oxygen in hyperbaric chamber does wonders. Proven in research that it delays telemorase - slows down aging. Rumor has it, Kingjames have a set up in his house and simulate higher altitude too. So yeah; he got all the money. I am sure at age 38 he will still be as good as he is now. Science has advanced so much that you got the money, you have access to all gears and gadget.

Also based on real experience as a previous diver, pure oxygen in hyperbaric chamber speeds up healing. I was blown away how fast my body recovered from injury.

The OP should know what assumptions they made with their "model". I'm sure they do. Just curious what assumptions were made.

In regards to good medical technology, I agree, Lebron has access and is a freak. He might be able to break the points record, and I'm rooting for it, but it's going to be hard.

KhalDrogo · 01-19-2021, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Craphit

The OP should know what assumptions they made with their "model". I'm sure they do. Just curious what assumptions were made.

In regards to good medical technology, I agree, Lebron has access and is a freak. He might be able to break the points record, and I'm rooting for it, but it's going to be hard.

I didn’t make any assumptions. He is 3790 points behind Kareem. That is a list of the number of games needed if he averages X points per game. I mentioned the 23.7ppg this season to give you an idea on what he is averaging despite lower than usual minutes thus far.

Craphit · 01-19-2021, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I didn’t make any assumptions. He is 3790 points behind Kareem. That is a list of the number of games needed if he averages X points per game. I mentioned the 23.7ppg this season to give you an idea on what he is averaging despite lower than usual minutes thus far.

I'm not trying to poke holes in what you said, just curious.

One assumption you made is that Lebron will continue to average 23.7 points per game.

When discussing this subject, the thread below should be required reading, interesting stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...for_1_alltime/

MikawlBBC · 01-19-2021, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Craphit

I'm not trying to poke holes in what you said, just curious.

One assumption you made is that Lebron will continue to average 23.7 points per game.

When discussing this subject, the thread below should be required reading, interesting stuff.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comment...for_1_alltime/

He gave you a wide spectrum of "what if" scenarios if Lebron scores less per game... hence, it will take more games.

KhalDrogo · 01-19-2021, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Craphit

I'm not trying to poke holes in what you said, just curious.

One assumption you made is that Lebron will continue to average 23.7 points per game.

I did not. Please go back and read it again.

Craphit · 01-19-2021, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I did not. Please go back and read it again.

You're right sir, my bad. Please accept my apology.

Ross · 01-19-2021, 07:53 PM

I think even on a low end lebron gets 20 a game minimum until he doesn’t want to play anymore. In addition he’s more primed than anyone else to eventually assume a more Karl Malone type role, and could post up for 4-5 years after everything else fades and still get 20 a game. IMO the points record is a lock, barring some major injury.

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mkebucks2001 · 01-19-2021, 09:47 PM

Last PSA sold for $5k - looks like they are at least a $4k card now. Keep riding the wave!

shootit · 01-19-2021, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It is remarkable that he has been able to live up to what was seemingly insurmountable hype. I remember his first mention in SLAM magazine, watching every high school game that ESPN broadcasted, his decision to sign with Nike, his first NBA game, etc. Crazy how long ago that was.

slam was the goat magazine growing up straight basketball porn

table3phc · 01-20-2021, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLBJMJ

We don't know. Pure Oxygen in hyperbaric chamber does wonders. Proven in research that it delays telemorase - slows down aging. Rumor has it, Kingjames have a set up in his house and simulate higher altitude too. So yeah; he got all the money. I am sure at age 38 he will still be as good as he is now. Science has advanced so much that you got the money, you have access to all gears and gadget.

Also based on real experience as a previous diver, pure oxygen in hyperbaric chamber speeds up healing. I was blown away how fast my body recovered from injury.

But too much oxygen has an increased mortality in certain hospitalized patients? How do you reconcile real medical data with perceived contemporary science results?

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sebreg · 01-20-2021, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by table3phc

But too much oxygen has an increased mortality in certain hospitalized patients? How do you reconcile real medical data with perceived contemporary science results?

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But as with anything, the dose makes the poison no? I haven't looked at the lit on the subject but vaguely recall that there are some studies that suggest this therapy can help speed healing with certain type of wounds. https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pro...t/pac-20394380

KingLBJMJ · 01-20-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sebreg

But as with anything, the dose makes the poison no? I haven't looked at the lit on the subject but vaguely recall that there are some studies that suggest this therapy can help speed healing with certain type of wounds. https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pro...t/pac-20394380

I'm sure lakers org is doing everything they can to keep lbj healthy

sebreg · 01-20-2021, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KingLBJMJ

I'm sure lakers org is doing everything they can to keep lbj healthy

For sure, plus Bron spends mil+ a year on his body/health. The most important thing is he is still very motivated to keep playing, working hard to maintain his health as best as possible. I think he is incredibly motivated to buff his legacy, which isn't a bad thing, just a big motivator. He is one of those super-talented people who won't leave anything on the table, squeezing the most out of their talents. I respect that.

yoyosh · 01-20-2021, 10:29 AM

No one mentioned 2 PSA 9 sales of $10k last night?
(actually one at $10,550 and one at 10)

mkebucks2001 · 01-20-2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyosh

No one mentioned 2 PSA 9 sales of $10k last night?
(actually one at $10,550 and one at 10)

Just saw this. And looks like PSA 8 is going around 3-5k. Yikes. I can't help but think that the 8 and 9 may be overpriced. Or not!

pcptrade · 01-20-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by yoyosh

No one mentioned 2 PSA 9 sales of $10k last night?
(actually one at $10,550 and one at 10)

PSA 10's approaching 30K barrier.

brock · 01-20-2021, 12:37 PM

I tried to buy a PSA 10 111 in the summer for $13k... No one would sell for that price.

They then fell to $10k (post championship) and I started wondering why the pump group that got them up near $16k had gotten tired of the card. The volatility even post championship scared me away from buying a copy.

Filled with regeerrrrtts!

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Blanketcards · 01-20-2021, 12:49 PM

I find it amazing the discrepancy from a BGS 9 to a PSA 9. Last sales are almost $2k different. I did see the one last night go for $10,550 PSA 9.

01-19-2021, 07:53 PM	#614
Ross Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 2,476	I think even on a low end lebron gets 20 a game minimum until he doesn’t want to play anymore. In addition he’s more primed than anyone else to eventually assume a more Karl Malone type role, and could post up for 4-5 years after everything else fades and still get 20 a game. IMO the points record is a lock, barring some major injury. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ NONE

01-19-2021, 02:59 PM	#601
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,444	Points record may not be baked in all the way, but it is an absolute lock barring a career ending injury. He’s 3790 points behind. He’s averaging 23.7 in only 32.2 minutes per game so far this year. A look at the ppg needed going forward. 19: 200 games 20: 190 games 21: 181 games 22: 173 games 23: 165 games 24: 158 games 25: 152 games Conservatively, say he plays 50 games the rest of the season. That puts the record in reach sometime in the 2023-24 or 2024-25 season. So this year plus two, or this year plus three. Age 38 or 39. Does anyone really think he won’t still be playing at a pretty high level then?

01-19-2021, 03:16 PM	#603
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,444	It is remarkable that he has been able to live up to what was seemingly insurmountable hype. I remember his first mention in SLAM magazine, watching every high school game that ESPN broadcasted, his decision to sign with Nike, his first NBA game, etc. Crazy how long ago that was.

01-19-2021, 09:47 PM	#615
mkebucks2001 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 496	Last PSA sold for $5k - looks like they are at least a $4k card now. Keep riding the wave!

01-20-2021, 10:29 AM	#621
yoyosh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA Posts: 4,521 partyauctions yoyosh	No one mentioned 2 PSA 9 sales of $10k last night? (actually one at $10,550 and one at 10)

01-20-2021, 12:37 PM	#624
brock Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 888 showman513	I tried to buy a PSA 10 111 in the summer for $13k... No one would sell for that price. They then fell to $10k (post championship) and I started wondering why the pump group that got them up near $16k had gotten tired of the card. The volatility even post championship scared me away from buying a copy. Filled with regeerrrrtts! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-20-2021, 12:49 PM	#625
Blanketcards Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 390 Blanketcards	I find it amazing the discrepancy from a BGS 9 to a PSA 9. Last sales are almost $2k different. I did see the one last night go for $10,550 PSA 9.