🏈 🏈 🏈 NFL 2020 DIVISIONAL Round Playoff Discussion Thread 🏈 🏈 🏈 - Page 26

Seahawks fan · 01-17-2021, 04:24 PM

Yeah change the rule to if it rolls out of the back of the endzone..but not the sideline.. and replay just showed some serious helmet to helmet

KhalDrogo · 01-17-2021, 04:24 PM

The problem with that play is the defender has no choice but to dive head first into the offensive player. How else is he supposed to make a play?

ScooterD · 01-17-2021, 04:25 PM

Honest question - is launching with the crown of the helmet and contacting the other person’s helmet allowed? If it’s not, and it’s seen on replay, what precludes the officials from calling it?

ALBASKETBALL · 01-17-2021, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

He was a runner. If he was in the position of catching the ball that's a different story.

Wrong. You cannot launch with your helmet in any circumstances.

RedSoxFan28 · 01-17-2021, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

He was a runner. If he was in the position of catching the ball that's a different story.

No

"It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. Contact does not have to be to an opponent’s head or neck area – lowering the head and initiating contact to an opponent’s torso, hips, and lower body, is also a foul. Violations of the rule will be easier to see and officiate when they occur in open space – as opposed to close line play – but this rule applies anywhere on the field at any time."

JohnnyHatesJazz · 01-17-2021, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

Wrong. You cannot launch with your helmet in any circumstances.

You're right..

mnvikingstwins · 01-17-2021, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Honest question - is launching with the crown of the helmet and contacting the other person’s helmet allowed? If it’s not, and it’s seen on replay, what precludes the officials from calling it?

Gene said it isn't reviewable in NFL so would need to be called on field. Stupid rule just like NBA that you can't call a foul on a review

arod305 · 01-17-2021, 04:29 PM

Chiefs O is rolling. 293 yards in the 1st half.

They will shoot up the toe, he will be fine.

Onepocketj · 01-17-2021, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Honest question - is launching with the crown of the helmet and contacting the other person’s helmet allowed? If it’s not, and it’s seen on replay, what precludes the officials from calling it?

So would you like to review every single play and make sure there was no holding or PI or false starts or...

dbpsooner · 01-17-2021, 04:30 PM

Baker has played better than the score suggests.

Dnic · 01-17-2021, 04:30 PM

This game should be closer then it is the Chiefs got lucky that these refs are incompetent smh

auctionjmm · 01-17-2021, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

So would you like to review every single play and make sure there was no holding or PI or false starts or...

Obviously not. But a big play in a playoff game that results in a turnover should be reviewable under any circumstances. It's the difference between 19-3 and 19-10 at halftime.

arod305 · 01-17-2021, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnic

This game should be closer then it is the Chiefs got lucky that these refs are incompetent smh

Huh? Chiefs had more penalties than I saw in the 1st weekend of the playoffs called . Browns on pace to give up almost 600 yards.

BeastMode27 · 01-17-2021, 04:32 PM

It shouldn’t have been reviewed. Anyone with eyes saw it happen in real time. There was nothing questionable about it. Stinks game decided like that. KC was likely winning anyways but if they kept it 16-10 at half with Browns getting the ball it’s at least more interesting.

chezball · 01-17-2021, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arod305

Chiefs O is rolling. 293 yards in the 1st half.

They will shoot up the toe, he will be fine.

Was just thinking that, just hope it doesn't F him up for the next game.

ALBASKETBALL · 01-17-2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Obviously not. But a big play in a playoff game that results in a turnover should be reviewable under any circumstances. It's the difference between 19-3 and 19-10 at halftime.

Probably 16-10 at halftime.

RedSoxFan28 · 01-17-2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

So would you like to review every single play and make sure there was no holding or PI or false starts or...

ScooterD · 01-17-2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Obviously not. But a big play in a playoff game that results in a turnover should be reviewable under any circumstances. It's the difference between 19-3 and 19-10 at halftime.

Plus, if the NFL is keying on cracking down on player safety, this type of play seems like it could be prioritized by making it reviewable. I have no dog in the race

arod305 · 01-17-2021, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chezball

Was just thinking that, just hope it doesn't F him up for the next game.

He will be fine. Gotta get out of this one first. Baker is playing well, Browns are legit.

2010GBPackers · 01-17-2021, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The problem with that play is the defender has no choice but to dive head first into the offensive player. How else is he supposed to make a play?

Uh, push him out with your hands?

ALBASKETBALL · 01-17-2021, 04:38 PM

Anyone with half a brain should be pissed at that play:

- Its an obvious Helmet to Helmet launching hit and should be reviewable. Just like the turnover is reviewable.

- Its a horrible rule. Its close to a consensus that every analysis, past and present player despise the rule.

RedSoxFan28 · 01-17-2021, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALBASKETBALL

Anyone with half a brain should be pissed at that play:

- Its an obvious Helmet to Helmet launching hit and should be reviewable. Just like the turnover is reviewable.

- Its a horrible rule. Its close to a consensus that every analysis, past and present player despise the rule.

mfw13 · 01-17-2021, 04:40 PM

Bad miss by the refs, but....

Also a bad play by Higgins.

If he doesn't try to stretch for the endzone, the Browns have 1st & Goal at around the 2-yard line with over a minute left and two time outs. They are highly likely to score the TD anyway, and by running more time off the clock, decrease the likelihood that KC can score before the half.

blackbears86 · 01-17-2021, 04:41 PM

Chiefs defense is good. Blitzing covers up some deficiencies, but I think they are much better than people give them credit.

I'm thinking this is done by the end of the third quarter. Browns make it respectable in the 4th, but chiefs win by 10+

shootit · 01-17-2021, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Uh, push him out with your hands?

if he does that, browns score on that same play

View Poll Results: Which of the playoff QBs would you take over Trevor Lawrence going forward?
Lamar Jackson	22	20.37%
Pat Mahomes	70	64.81%
Baker Mayfield	23	21.30%
Josh Allen	59	54.63%
Tom Brady	23	21.30%
Aaron Rodgers	41	37.96%
Drew Brees	12	11.11%
Jared Goff	10	9.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 108. You may not vote on this poll

01-17-2021, 04:24 PM	#626
Seahawks fan Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 7,981	Yeah change the rule to if it rolls out of the back of the endzone..but not the sideline.. and replay just showed some serious helmet to helmet __________________ Always looking for Kam Chancellor and Rare Marcus Trufant cards. I will buy or trade just message me.

01-17-2021, 04:29 PM	#633
arod305 Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 8,048	Chiefs O is rolling. 293 yards in the 1st half. They will shoot up the toe, he will be fine. __________________ Follow me on IG a.rod305

01-17-2021, 04:24 PM	#627
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,524	The problem with that play is the defender has no choice but to dive head first into the offensive player. How else is he supposed to make a play?

01-17-2021, 04:25 PM	#628
ScooterD Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 5,548	Honest question - is launching with the crown of the helmet and contacting the other person’s helmet allowed? If it’s not, and it’s seen on replay, what precludes the officials from calling it?

01-17-2021, 04:30 PM	#635
dbpsooner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 3,003 dbpsooner	Baker has played better than the score suggests.

01-17-2021, 04:30 PM	#636
Dnic Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,277	This game should be closer then it is the Chiefs got lucky that these refs are incompetent smh

01-17-2021, 04:32 PM	#639
BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	It shouldn’t have been reviewed. Anyone with eyes saw it happen in real time. There was nothing questionable about it. Stinks game decided like that. KC was likely winning anyways but if they kept it 16-10 at half with Browns getting the ball it’s at least more interesting.

01-17-2021, 04:38 PM	#646
ALBASKETBALL Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 5,113	Anyone with half a brain should be pissed at that play: - Its an obvious Helmet to Helmet launching hit and should be reviewable. Just like the turnover is reviewable. - Its a horrible rule. Its close to a consensus that every analysis, past and present player despise the rule.

01-17-2021, 04:40 PM	#648
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18,076	Bad miss by the refs, but.... Also a bad play by Higgins. If he doesn't try to stretch for the endzone, the Browns have 1st & Goal at around the 2-yard line with over a minute left and two time outs. They are highly likely to score the TD anyway, and by running more time off the clock, decrease the likelihood that KC can score before the half.

01-17-2021, 04:41 PM	#649
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,462 blackbears86	Chiefs defense is good. Blitzing covers up some deficiencies, but I think they are much better than people give them credit. I'm thinking this is done by the end of the third quarter. Browns make it respectable in the 4th, but chiefs win by 10+