Potential Worth of Soccer Cards as Market Grows

[SupermanBrandon]

I really like Harry Kane as a player, as well. But his name doesn't and wont have the cache as Mbappe. Some people have the "it" factor. Kane doesn't have it. And that's completely fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Lewa and Kane are really great players (and Mbappe too) but in the card market, in branding, in sponsorships, in world-wide appeal...Mbappe is going to smoke them in popularity, sales, earnings, media, etc...even if he ends up being a little under their stats. It's just the way it's going to be. Every sport needs that guy (or two)!

[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by k13

Let him play for his African nations and see if he wins a World Cup.

So dumb.

Not sure whom you suppport, but messi couldnt make argentina win the worldcup or the copa america. Doesnt mean he is not a legend

[Mostown]

Originally Posted by k13

Harry Kane just needs to stay healthy and be EPL's all time goal scorer and England's all time goal scorer.

That's it. Legend forever.

Everything else is a bonus.

January 13, 2021. The day I agreed with a k13 post!

England's youngest Captain in history for a reason.

[Gin&Juice]

Kane is 5 years older than Mbappe and is only now developing into a complete player, which makes sense because at 27 he is in his prime. At 19, Mbappe was a key part of a World Cup winning team. At that same age, Kane was not even playing ahead of Danny Welbeck and couldn’t break into a team that got bumped out in the group stage of the World Cup. At 22, Mbappe has the same number of career goals in the Champions League and 13 more career assists in the Champions League than Kane. 15 percent of Kane’s career goals in the EPL are from PKs, 5 percent of Mbappe’s career goals in Ligue 1 are from pks.

Kane is a great player playing at an extraordinary level as he enters his prime and may go down as one of England’s greatest. Mbappe has been playing at a similar level since he was 18. He may not be able to maintain it, but this just goes to show his potential upside if he does continue to progress (or even maintain).

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

Mbappe has the same number of career goals in the Champions League and 13 more career assists in the Champions League than Kane. 15 percent of Kane’s career goals in the EPL are from PKs, 5 percent of Mbappe’s career goals in Ligue 1 are from pks.

Stats are great aren't they? You can twist them to say pretty much anything you want.

Here's some facts though.

1 - The Premier League is a tougher league than Ligue 1
2 - Mbappe plays for a Megalodon club in a public swimming pool.
3 - Mbappe has played 40 CL games. Kane 24.

Kane in the CL - P24 - G20 = goal every 0.83 games
Mbappe in the CL - P40 - G21 = goal every 1.9 games
(Messi is 1.24)

You're welcome.

[Gin&Juice]

Not sure what I am supposed to be thanking you for. Nothing you said changes any of the analysis.

1) I didn’t compare league stats (other than to point out that Kane has historically scored a greater percentage of his goals from the pk spot than Mbappe) so the fact that EPL is a tougher league is immaterial. I purposely used international and CL as comparison points because it is the same level of competition for both.

2) PSG’s megalodon status is in large part attributable to the fact that Mbappe is the most valuable player in the world. Not sure what your point is. It’s not like the club that spent 54 million pounds on Tanguy Ndombele is a minnow. And, again, I didn’t even really look at league stats.

3) Kane: .125 assists/game in the CL (3/24)
Mbappe: .425 assists/game in the CL (17/40) — roughly 3.5 times higher.

All of which is to say that Mbappe is performing at an extraordinary level at an earlier age than Kane did, and, if he continues to develop (like Kane has, who is now having his best season ever at 27), the sky is the limit.

You’re welcome.

[YayNJ]

I don't know where to start with that.

Firstly you claim nothing changes the analysis. Yet it was you that was crowing about Mbappe's champions League exploits. I pointed out that Kane is superior and has played nearly 50% less games, and for a worse club.

Secondly, PSG have been a Megalodon club in French Football since 2011, when Mbappe was eleven (11) years old, and they were bringing in players such as Javier Pastore, Zlatan, Lavezzi and Beckham.

Thirdly you are now using assists as a desperate attempt to win an argument about two strikers. FYI Harry Kane has never been asked to provide assists in his entire career, other than this season under Mourinho.

Lovely stuff.

[Gin&Juice]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

I don't know where to start with that.

Firstly you claim nothing changes the analysis. Yet it was you that was crowing about Mbappe's champions League exploits. I pointed out that Kane is superior and has played nearly 50% less games, and for a worse club.

Secondly, PSG have been a Megalodon club in French Football since 2011, when Mbappe was eleven (11) years old, and they were bringing in players such as Javier Pastore, Zlatan, Lavezzi and Beckham.

Thirdly you are now using assists as a desperate attempt to win an argument about two strikers. FYI Harry Kane has never been asked to provide assists in his entire career, other than this season under Mourinho.

Lovely stuff.

Kane has not been superior in the CL. Assists weren’t a desperate attempt, they were part of my original point. Mbappe has played as a wing for a substantial portion of the time he has been with PSG. Accordingly, his contributions as a goal scorer and a playmaker are an important part of the analysis.

I forgot about the Pastore/Lavezzi juggernaut. And the year that Monaco won the CL behind Mbappe.

You are going out of your way to diminish an extraordinary young player who has proven on every stage that he is already in the conversation about the world’s best strikers and who still has years to mature. Nothing I have said is a knock on Kane. He has been a very good striker and goal poacher whose game is now developing to the point that he contributes in other ways too. But the point remains, Mbappe was doing things as an 18 year old that Kane wasn’t doing at that age, and Mbappe is doing things as a 22 year old that Kane wasn’t doing at that age. It is not a matter of club or position. Mbappe has done it at multiple positions in the domestic league, in the CL and on the international stage.

[GrangerCollectr]

Time to get up early on a Thursday to argue about elite soccer players and prove who is better.....typical Blowout entertainment LOL

Back to the thread title though - "Potential WORTH OF SOCCER CARDS"

Mbappe cards easily outsell Harry Kane cards and will outsell his cards for a very long time

P.S. - I do love me some Harry Kane and think he is severely undervalued.

[jpamboris]

Here is my take on this whole Kane, Lewandowski, Mbappe etc.
Kane and Lewandowski are similar forwards to me. They both big and strong, can hold up the ball very well and are decent on the ball. These type of forwards are a dying breed as the game is changing. The top teams all have a front 2 or 3 that are very skillful and more importantly speedy.
This is why i believe Spurs will never win a league title with this type of forward. Not saying they will not have success as this does not necessarily mean just winning trophies.
Bayern Munich right now get away with it more due to the poorer opposition they play against in Germany.
Essentially what i am trying to say is that the top top forwards have pace, flair and are great dribblers. They are easy to watch on the eye. Kane and Lewandowski are not this.
I am sure people will disagree some of this if not all but this is why Messi/Ronaldo get all the love. Close behind are Neymar & Mbappe. Do you see a common theme here?

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by jpamboris

Essentially what i am trying to say is that the top top forwards have pace, flair and are great dribblers. They are easy to watch on the eye. Kane and Lewandowski are not this.
I am sure people will disagree some of this if not all but this is why Messi/Ronaldo get all the love. Close behind are Neymar & Mbappe. Do you see a common theme here?

You wont be wanting your Haaland cards then. Can I have them?

[SupermanBrandon]

Pele/Market Growth/About to go BOOM!


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[k13]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

I really like Harry Kane as a player, as well. But his name doesn't and wont have the cache as Mbappe. Some people have the "it" factor. Kane doesn't have it. And that's completely fine. There's nothing wrong with that. Lewa and Kane are really great players (and Mbappe too) but in the card market, in branding, in sponsorships, in world-wide appeal...Mbappe is going to smoke them in popularity, sales, earnings, media, etc...even if he ends up being a little under their stats. It's just the way it's going to be. Every sport needs that guy (or two)!

No one even knows who Mbappe is.
No one watches the French league.
His cards only sell because he's young.

Otherwise he's just another Martial/Lacazette/aubameyang

Why do you think Fati/Haaland/etc. sell?

Because they are 18-19 years old.
This happens in ever sport every year.

If Harry Kane's 2014-15 season was switched to now and he was 20 years old like then his cards would be beyond anything.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by k13

No one even knows who Mbappe is.
No one watches the French league.
His cards only sell because he's young.

Otherwise he's just another Martial/Lacazette/aubameyang

Why do you think Fati/Haaland/etc. sell?

Because they are 18-19 years old.
This happens in ever sport every year.

If Harry Kane's 2014-15 season was switched to now and he was 20 years old like then his cards would be beyond anything.

You're just embarrassing yourself

[k13]

People paid more money for Andrew Wiggins than boring established star Lebron James at the time.

People paid more money insert hyped prospect than boring established star Alexander Ovechkin at the time.


It took them over 10 years to wake up and want to pay 20x more for the same stupid cards.


You have to love this "hobby"

[k13]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

You're just embarrassing yourself

I don't know one person who knows who he is unless they've been "investing" in sports cards or are big soccer fans.

Seriously.

[alessandrosam]

Originally Posted by k13

People paid more money for Andrew Wiggins than boring established star Lebron James at the time.

People paid more money insert hyped prospect than boring established star Alexander Ovechkin at the time.


It took them over 10 years to wake up and want to pay 20x more for the same stupid cards.


You have to love this "hobby"

The hobby has always been this way. Soccer just wasn't apart of it bc there was no product, especially not in North America where prospecting is literally a way of life as far back as the prospectors mining for gold in the American mountains centuries ago.


So use that knowledge of this hobby to profit instead of being bitter.

Especially from this forum alone, and this post. The amount of times I've been able to get a jump on a new product releasing that I eventually sold at a major profit. If you haven't been able to use this knowledge to profit don't take it out on any of us.

And if you don't think Mbappe is recognizable worldwide, you are clueless.
And I will prove it.
Give me a day or two.

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[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by alessandrosam

And if you don't think Mbappe is recognizable worldwide, you are clueless.

The Bucks seem to know who he is.

[k13]

I'm talking about the general population not some athletes or people who follow sports.

People know Zlatan, rooney, suarez before mbappe/fati/haaland.

I go to LCS and people are like who's this mbappe people are paying up for.

[KhalDrogo]

k13 must be in a downward spiral in real life. The negativity has become very aggressive the past week or so. Hope you get help dude.

Mbappe has 46.2M IG followers, yet nobody knows who he is?

[k13]

Not like I give a crap about Twitter but a lot of people determine some popularity by it.

Suarez 16.6 million
Zlatan 7.2 million
Rooney 17.1 million
Mbappe 5.6 million

Wayne Rooney was "finished" seven years ago.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by k13

No one even knows who Mbappe is.

Why do you keep saying this?

He's constantly in the Champions League.
He won the World Cup with France, the widest watched sports spectacle on earth.
He's on the front of FIFA computer game.
He has his own Nike Shoe
He's a brand ambassador for various companies including Hublot

Your evidence is that players that are almost 15 years his senior have more followers on Twitter? lol

Kids use Instagram these days old timer.

[k13]

You'd be surprised how many people I have to explain who Zion/Luka/Giannis are if they don't watch basketball.

[WHyFLy]

Originally Posted by k13

No one even knows who Mbappe is.
No one watches the French league.
His cards only sell because he's young.

Otherwise he's just another Martial/Lacazette/aubameyang

Why do you think Fati/Haaland/etc. sell?

Because they are 18-19 years old.
This happens in ever sport every year.

If Harry Kane's 2014-15 season was switched to now and he was 20 years old like then his cards would be beyond anything.

Just stop man... you are embarrassing yourself even further... No one knows Mbappe yet his Instagram following is huge and Lebron just made a collab with him... He is the cover of FIFA which is the most sold out sports game every year, He won the most recent world cup also scoring in both the Quarterfinals and Finals... He made the Champions League Final... JUST STOP

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by k13

You'd be surprised how many people I have to explain who Zion/Luka/Giannis are if they don't watch basketball.

Basketball is a tiny sport compared to soccer, much smaller than Baseball and even Golf. It's biggest markets are the USA and China, and outside of that it's tiny. Spain, Lithuania and Greece are it's biggest markets in Europe.

It's very rare that a Basketball player will truly go global.

Jordan
Lebron
Shaq
Kobe
Rodman