Help on Haaland Fussbal variations...

[burke23]

So it seems Haaland’s Fussball sticker hasn’t a version where the design on the left is white, and some where it is more filled in. Any idea on print runs between them and if there is a big change in value? Sellers don’t seem to call out the distinction much in the titles.

[fadster]

So the one on the left is the original pack pulled version. The one on the right, with the white chevrons and poorer image quality, were extra reprints Panini made for consumers using the sticker service in Austria (but abused by people elsewhere). It's looked down on as its a 2nd print whilst the original has a premium as a 1st edition. Someone selling one claimed Panini told them the reprint was limited to 500 but the only evidence they produced was a dodgy looking (probably photoshopped) email in broken English, other people have also asked and did not receive that answer.

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[bobbycass]

It doesnt make any sense that they would limit the reprint to 500. They are gonna milk that run for all its got. Im glad there is a difference between the two prints so maybe the first print will keep its value.

[Mitch]

Fadster is exactly right.

And the reason they stopped printing single stickers of Haaland, is the same reason you can't order the 98 Zidane - when people only buy singles from them direct, who is buying boxes?

It is a useful service to complete your collection, that if used in small numbers, could have remained useful for those smart enough, but was abused.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the light-grey on-demand print, but each to their own of course!

[fadster]

Just an fyi, I've seen a couple of people on IG post that PSA are giving them N9's on these despite the fact they have graded almost 200 of them. Hopefully it's just a one off error on the part of a single grader. I've had a couple there for 5 months now, I'll be majorly annoyed if they came back N9 too after all that wait.

[Pnwcardshop]

N9? Wtf is that

[Mishu2nite]

Does anyone one know if these are all exactly the same size? Also I have two grey version I have recently won on eBay. They seem to be slightly different in text quality. Are there variations or are there
Any know counterfeits?

[fadster]

Originally Posted by Pnwcardshop

N9? Wtf is that

It means they don't grade them, which is nonsense as they've graded around 200

Originally Posted by Mishu2nite

Does anyone one know if these are all exactly the same size? Also I have two grey version I have recently won on eBay. They seem to be slightly different in text quality. Are there variations or are there
Any know counterfeits?

So this is something I've seen come up on IG. There may be 2 different grey chevron versions, both pack pulled ones. It's thought that when they restarted the presses to make more boxes (after they did the white version) it ended up being slightly different to the original in terms of colour and contrast. Is that what you mean or is there another difference?

[Mishu2nite]

Originally Posted by fadster

It means they don't grade them, which is nonsense as they've graded around 200



So this is something I've seen come up on IG. There may be 2 different grey chevron versions, both pack pulled ones. It's thought that when they restarted the presses to make more boxes (after they did the white version) it ended up being slightly different to the original in terms of colour and contrast. Is that what you mean or is there another difference?

The upper left, yes the bundeslinga under the topics in upper left different. Also the top to btm height is slightly different.

[Mishu2nite]

Originally Posted by fadster

It means they don't grade them, which is nonsense as they've graded around 200



So this is something I've seen come up on IG. There may be 2 different grey chevron versions, both pack pulled ones. It's thought that when they restarted the presses to make more boxes (after they did the white version) it ended up being slightly different to the original in terms of colour and contrast. Is that what you mean or is there another difference?

Back printing on one black, the other grey

[Mishu2nite]

Originally Posted by fadster

It means they don't grade them, which is nonsense as they've graded around 200



So this is something I've seen come up on IG. There may be 2 different grey chevron versions, both pack pulled ones. It's thought that when they restarted the presses to make more boxes (after they did the white version) it ended up being slightly different to the original in terms of colour and contrast. Is that what you mean or is there another difference?

Yes part of it

[fadster]

Here's a pictorial overview of the 3 variations https://www.instagram.com/p/CGpw3FzH...=1q2ou0i2jfwtc
The black / grey back is one of the differences between variations.

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[Mishu2nite]

Originally Posted by fadster

Here's a pictorial overview of the 3 variations https://www.instagram.com/p/CGpw3FzH...=1q2ou0i2jfwtc
The black / grey back is one of the differences between variations.

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Thanks so much! I have a first print and a third print.

[Mahomie]

Thank you for this info. I never looked into until now, but I guess my copy is actually a second print.

[fadster]

Beckett wading in:

https://www.beckett.com/news/spot-fa...land-stickers/

I believe this is incorrect, the "counterfeit" version was a second print to satisfy the extra demand from the domestic missing sticker service, and there is a third version from when they restarted the presses to make more packs that were sold in plain white boxes.

There is one other, unlikely but possible, explanation and that is the local Panini arm went rogue and the further prints were unauthorised and never actually had the green light from Panini Global in Italy to produce these. That might explain the different image and poor image quality, without the original plates they had to scan a copy and lost definition. For me that's always been a little detail that hasn't sat well. I think in future they need to stamp all products sent out from the replacement service.

[AlexKeny]

This Beckett article is false. It is known there are two versions of the Halaand sticker, white and black. The Beckett article is very strange and in poor taste.

[fadster]

There are 3 versions:

1) Found in first run of packs - white chevrons on the left that fade as you go down, clear image. Back is grey.

2) Version from missing sticker service - white chevrons all the way down, poor image quality. Back is dark grey.

3) Second run of packs in generic white boxes - same image as version 1 but a bit darker. Back is dark like version 2.

There's no doubt version 2 came from Panini Austria so the only possible way that version 2 is "fake" is if Panini Austria went rogue in printing extras (without original plates hence the poor quality), as far as I know no other sticker was reprinted like this. Like I said before it's the only explanation that fits with the evidence and what Panini have supposedly told Beckett.

[bobbycass]

I got a few of these. I got the original print, opened a few boxes myself and I sent away for one. The one I sent away for does not have the extra chevron. The colour just seems to be a bit different.

[stivsolovienna]

The Beckett article is terrible in my opinion. I know for a fact that white ones were sent out (exactly as stated above) for sticker replacements in Austria. They were sent by PANINI. I am not saying there couldnt be any counterfeits out there, but all white versions being counterfeit is just wrong

[sammyvienna1981]

I live in Austria and I can tell you - the replacement service was active thru panini for several weeks and it was possible to order the haaland sticker thru the panini site...

I know a lot of people who did it and after few weeks they closed this option...

Dont know why beckett is writing such a false article


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[Raj3sh]

Originally Posted by bobbycass

It doesnt make any sense that they would limit the reprint to 500. They are gonna milk that run for all its got. Im glad there is a difference between the two prints so maybe the first print will keep its value.

Not sure how how much they are milking since they were selling the replacement for less than 1 euro per sticker. So not much of a profit

[AlexKeny]

Originally Posted by fadster

There are 3 versions:

1) Found in first run of packs - white chevrons on the left that fade as you go down, clear image. Back is grey.

2) Version from missing sticker service - white chevrons all the way down, poor image quality. Back is dark grey.

3) Second run of packs in generic white boxes - same image as version 1 but a bit darker. Back is dark like version 2.

There's no doubt version 2 came from Panini Austria so the only possible way that version 2 is "fake" is if Panini Austria went rogue in printing extras (without original plates hence the poor quality), as far as I know no other sticker was reprinted like this. Like I said before it's the only explanation that fits with the evidence and what Panini have supposedly told Beckett.

Are any of the variations rarer than the others? Thanks! I have the 3rd one coming from Austria - hopefully - it's been over a month and a half now, still in communication with seller, we hope it arrives this week...but I may have to request a refund on it.

[fadster]

Originally Posted by AlexKeny

Are any of the variations rarer than the others? Thanks! I have the 3rd one coming from Austria - hopefully - it's been over a month and a half now, still in communication with seller, we hope it arrives this week...but I may have to request a refund on it.

It's tough to say, I don't think there is a big difference. The difference between 1 & 3 isn't always obvious, they are essentially the same but one is darker. Version 2 is out there in pretty big numbers and might be most common as it mostly ended up in the hands of flippers abusing the system. Version 1 (from the original boxes) might end up being the rarest when all is said and done as Panini didn't know what they had and some of the print run would have ended up with kids in Austria. I don't like the look of 2, even though it isn't a fake it does look amateurish, I'd always prefer version 1, then 3 and lastly 2.

[Mahomie]

Originally Posted by fadster

I don't like the look of 2, even though it isn't a fake it does look amateurish, I'd always prefer version 1, then 3 and lastly 2.

I agree with this. I've always wondered why I was able to purchase mine for such a low price, but all of this info definitely makes sense.