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Old 12-28-2020, 11:45 AM   #1
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Default Flawless Collegiate 2020-21

Does anyone care about this product? I haven't seen anyone talking about it but there's less than 800 boxes if I did my math right. Seems like one of the most limited releases we will have.

I don't actually want any but just surprised no one has said anything ab it since it's on the site right now.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:17 PM   #2
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Wondering the same thing. I personally think it's about $250-$500 too expensive.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #3
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Compared to NT Collegiate which hit the floor at $500 and is barely profitable to flip, yes this is at least $500 overpriced. Probably more than that.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #4
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I can't even add one to my cart, hard to care about a product I can't even buy if I wanted to.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:35 PM   #5
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My math suggests production run is not less than 950 boxes, based on the checklist and that there are 2 Gem cards per box.

The problem is there is relatively low demand for Collegiate licensed products compared to NBA licensed products AND this year's draft class is weaker than last year's...

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Does anyone care about this product? I haven't seen anyone talking about it but there's less than 800 boxes if I did my math right. Seems like one of the most limited releases we will have.

I don't actually want any but just surprised no one has said anything ab it since it's on the site right now.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:39 PM   #6
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I think it is overpriced, even at the floor. That being said, there has been sneaky high demand for the top players in the Prizm Draft Picks product. I've sold several autos in the $200-300 range and still sitting on a stack of others. I think the demand for those most likely drops when non-collegiate stuff hits the market but for now it is surprisingly strong.
Can't say if that will translate into decent singles prices for this stuff, though.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:42 PM   #7
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The problem is there is relatively low demand for Collegiate licensed products.
I'm the exact type of college clector who would love to spend money on a product like this, but the price is too astronomically high.

Hopefully Panini gets the message soon...
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:44 PM   #8
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Compared to NT Collegiate which hit the floor at $500 and is barely profitable to flip, yes this is at least $500 overpriced. Probably more than that.
My NT break was very successful, I bought two boxes and I'm already up 750 bucks after fees and still have

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Old 12-28-2020, 12:46 PM   #9
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I think it is overpriced, even at the floor. That being said, there has been sneaky high demand for the top players in the Prizm Draft Picks product. I've sold several autos in the $200-300 range and still sitting on a stack of others. I think the demand for those most likely drops when non-collegiate stuff hits the market but for now it is surprisingly strong.
Can't say if that will translate into decent singles prices for this stuff, though.
I've done well on Panini Prizms Draft Picks as well. I spent about $550 on retail and am about $10 from breaking even while still keeping all my LeMelo, Wiseman, Devi, and Anthony Edwards Color plus a Zion Downtown. Also still have lots of some of the lottery picks for sale so I'll easily get my money back from what I spent plus get to keep stuff for the PC and I didn't pull one decent auto since it was all retail lol
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:52 PM   #10
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Should hit floor but I think its a winner there. These Collegiate products starting to pick up steam now that guys are playing.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:57 PM   #11
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I think most of the rookies not being off to an exciting start has something to do with it...I know its only 2-3 games so far, but I havent seen anything exciting yet...some decent outings by Edwards
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:00 PM   #12
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Bought one at the floor.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:01 PM   #13
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shows how bad it is when it still adds to cart at the floor....
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:03 PM   #14
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two at the floor its decent value imo
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:04 PM   #15
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I think a lot of people don’t realize it’s even available since it was never in trending products on first page.

Picking some up at the floor. No other chance to get a flawless product for basketball at this price
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:07 PM   #16
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Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
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Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
I think so...I'm usually more bullish on college products than most, but this one feels like a loser. I hope I'm wrong for those that bought at the floor though.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:11 PM   #18
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Does panini pull these from the sale after 5 minutes at the floor? Find it hard to believe they just fully sold out that quick.
Thinking so. I had a couple in the cart to grab at the floor and had to grab something from the microwave. Forgot about it and gone.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:12 PM   #19
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I am guessing this product will do well, at least until the NBA products are released. This assumes the performance of the rookies improve as the season progresses.

I passed on this product and will wait for NBA product releases.

Good Luck! to those that will open.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:13 PM   #20
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Got one at the floor but will probably end up holding it for a while. Can't wait to see how the first breaks look.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:24 PM   #21
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Anything at the floor is a safe bet. Nobody could buy them cheaper and nobody is going to sell at a loss. It’s not always about making thousands on every box but these should be a fine “investment” at the bottom.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:28 PM   #22
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Agree about buying at the floor. Especially as an online exclusive. Nice job to those that got some! I forgot about it.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:34 PM   #23
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Anything at the floor is a safe bet. Nobody could buy them cheaper and nobody is going to sell at a loss. It’s not always about making thousands on every box but these should be a fine “investment” at the bottom.

Some are letting Immaculate Collegiate go at a losing price (after fees) and Blowout is currently offering $50 under floor.

NT is doing a little better but still tough to even make 10% flipping.

Fortunately at $500 both were much better rips than flips, so people who bought to open seem to be generally happy. Don't see that being the case with Flawless at 2.5 times the price (or more with tax). No reason to think the content value will be that much better.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:37 PM   #24
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unless someone decides to take a loss for some unkown reason, these will never be offered lower than the floor. good buy there imo, i only got 1 but thinking about it now, should have grabbed a case.
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Old 12-28-2020, 01:52 PM   #25
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Some are letting Immaculate Collegiate go at a losing price (after fees) and Blowout is currently offering $50 under floor.

NT is doing a little better but still tough to even make 10% flipping.

Fortunately at $500 both were much better rips than flips, so people who bought to open seem to be generally happy. Don't see that being the case with Flawless at 2.5 times the price (or more with tax). No reason to think the content value will be that much better.
These were my thoughts, but I do hope that whoever bought in gets a nice return one way or another.
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