Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!!

[GC1980]

Originally Posted by kefskala

Don’t know if that’s the same comparison. One big issue with stars card is that there is so many counterfeit cards that psa won’t grade and who knows what’s in the Bgs slab... uncertainty isn’t good...

This isn’t true. This is a complete urban legend. The 1984 Star 101 XRC is not more faked than the 1986 fleer, in fact it is far less faked and easy to spot.

PSA won’t grade because they made a choice not to years ago and have never taken the time to learn what to look for. If the new regime changes course the Star will blow up.

[kefskala]

Originally Posted by GC1980

This isn’t true. This is a complete urban legend. The 1984 Star 101 XRC is not more faked than the 1986 fleer, in fact it is far less faked and easy to spot.

PSA won’t grade because they made a choice not to years ago and have never taken the time to learn what to look for. If the new regime changes course the Star will blow up.

Don’t know if it is an urban legend. The 1986 fleer counterfeit has at least 10 tells that you can spot with the naked eye. I read some where that the star cards where run unauthorized with the star plates. Maybe some one here knows the story better. The unauthorized run was deemed as counterfeit and very hard to tell the difference. I believe this is how the story went..and this is why psa won’t grade...

[GC1980]

Originally Posted by kefskala

Don’t know if it is an urban legend. The 1986 fleer counterfeit has at least 10 tells that you can spot with the naked eye. I read some where that the star cards where run unauthorized with the star plates. Maybe some one here knows the story better. The unauthorized run was deemed as counterfeit and very hard to tell the difference. I believe this is how the story went..and this is why psa won’t grade...

The Star 101 XRc was never reprinted using the original plates. This completely false info.

[kefskala]

Originally Posted by GC1980

The Star 101 XRc was never reprinted using the original plates. This completely false info.

https://jordancards.com/blog/the-rea...rt-steve-taft/


believe what you want.....

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by kefskala

Don’t know if it is an urban legend. The 1986 fleer counterfeit has at least 10 tells that you can spot with the naked eye. I read some where that the star cards where run unauthorized with the star plates. Maybe some one here knows the story better. The unauthorized run was deemed as counterfeit and very hard to tell the difference. I believe this is how the story went..and this is why psa won’t grade...

Careful not to spread bad information buddy. The Jordan 101 was never run through an unauthorized print.

[mc1]

JordanCards.com: It is commonly reported that the 1984-85 Star Co set was reprinted by Star Co in the early 90’s. Is this true and if not which sets were reprinted, if any?

Steve Taft: No, this is NOT true! Now that we know about the 1997 Shop at Home scandal, I think if the owner of Star could have made exact duplicates of his cards, he might have given it a try. Problem is, I don’t think it’s possible to match the cutting characteristics of the original cards, plus, the original printers were no longer in business.

[GC1980]

Originally Posted by kefskala

https://jordancards.com/blog/the-rea...rt-steve-taft/


believe what you want.....

Did you not read any of that interview?

[Willikn]

Levine didn't reprint Star Co cards. Just kept the unsold product and auctioned off in the 90's to one buyer (that we know of). What if.. Fleer kept cases of unsold from 1986 and auctioned them off five years later?

[Brent72]

CG1980 is 100% correct. It's sad that there is so much "fake news" out there about the Star 101 XRC. If not for that it would probably be worth 5-10x what it already is. Only 3000 original copies of the GOAT's true rookie card and who knows how many have actually survived intact. Eventually people will recognize how undervalued it is relative to the Fleer.

[KhalDrogo]

So what distinguishes a real copy from a fake?

[kcroyalsfan8515]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

So what distinguishes a real copy from a fake?

fakes are made of cheese

[r338]

Originally Posted by kefskala

https://jordancards.com/blog/the-rea...rt-steve-taft/


believe what you want.....

You posted a link to an interview, and you should take the time to read the interview. It says exactly the opposite of what you posted. There are no reprints with original plates.

[Brent72]

Originally Posted by r338

You posted a link to an interview, and you should take the time to read the interview. It says exactly the opposite of what you posted. There are no reprints with original plates.

Reading is hard.

[vintg]

beckett 9.5 with 3 9.5 subs and 1 10 sub

just sold for

71k


(and pwcc beckett 9.5 with 2 10 subs is at 90k with 3 days to go)

[Hilton]

Beckett 9.5 with minimum sub grades is worth no more than PSA 9 since that’s the highest grade it would cross to.

[bigdog2003]

I need to pick up a Jordan rookie in 2021. Granted, I won't be able to afford anything higher than maybe a PSA 4, but I need to get one before I really get priced out. I know a guy that has a BGS 2.5 for sale right now for $1,100 but the surface grade is 1.5 because it was folded in half at some point and has stains on the back.

[mjcollector]

I took a 5 month break and my jaw dropped when I saw the current prices!

I remembered a time in the late 80s when the 84 xrc was valued quite a bit more than the 86. I'm lucky to have both but always personally valued the xrc more.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

I need to pick up a Jordan rookie in 2021. Granted, I won't be able to afford anything higher than maybe a PSA 4, but I need to get one before I really get priced out. I know a guy that has a BGS 2.5 for sale right now for $1,100 but the surface grade is 1.5 because it was folded in half at some point and has stains on the back.

I got my first one in may of this year, I swear to God, it was a "little
magical" when I opened the package.

the color and picture just POPPED, and I was hooked. LOL

[vintg]

Originally Posted by Hilton

Beckett 9.5 with minimum sub grades is worth no more than PSA 9 since that’s the highest grade it would cross to.

......yeah, but, ......71k is more than 31k, .....no ??

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

I need to pick up a Jordan rookie in 2021. Granted, I won't be able to afford anything higher than maybe a PSA 4, but I need to get one before I really get priced out. I know a guy that has a BGS 2.5 for sale right now for $1,100 but the surface grade is 1.5 because it was folded in half at some point and has stains on the back.

you know him, get it for 1K. You wont be sorry

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

you know him, get it for 1K. You wont be sorry

After I posted that I'm sitting here seriously thinking about it. I paid off all my student loans this year and haven't rewarded myself at all.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by bigdog2003

After I posted that I'm sitting here seriously thinking about it. I paid off all my student loans this year and haven't rewarded myself at all.

Reward yourself with the PSA 4. You'll be glad you did.

After you have that... if you have enough to sell to buy the 2.5... I'd do it.

[bigdog2003]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Reward yourself with the PSA 4. You'll be glad you did.

After you have that... if you have enough to sell to buy the 2.5... I'd do it.

See, I have this problem where I'll think about buying something but can't bring myself to spend the money. It happens all the time and not just with cards. I don't even know where it comes from.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by vintg

I got my first one in may of this year, I swear to God, it was a "little
magical" when I opened the package.

the color and picture just POPPED, and I was hooked. LOL

I’ve been lucky enough to own a 52 mantle 311 and a few 86 fleer 57. Both have that childhood excitement huge smile inducing impact at first sight. It may be that I’m a child of the 90s (Chicago child of the 90s) but dare I say the fleer 57 brings a giddiness that is bigger than any other card. This heat and recognition is just starting. Get in now if you haven’t can’t stress this enough. Whatever the grade just get in!

[Hilton]

Originally Posted by vintg

......yeah, but, ......71k is more than 31k, .....no ??

Yeah but 71k for 10 and 3 9.5’s is not minimum subgrades for a 9.5...no?