Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 2521

Silas Barnaby · 12-17-2020, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cnote81

Also have the full Beck set- it really looks great together. The conserved elements between (most) cards makes it feel cohesive. As a fellow Yankees fan, I'm going to say that my feelings towards the Jeter and Mattingly are not nearly as hard as yours. I like that he took big swings with both.

I'm a sucker for bright colors!

Going through Project 2020 has made me realize my affection for the color yellow.

Shinjoy · 12-17-2020, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

I'm a sucker for bright colors!

Going through Project 2020 has made me realize my affection for the color yellow.

Definitely >50% of why I like Fucci so much is that I really like pink.

NYRE2PECT · 12-17-2020, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonbeck

Appreciate you for grabbing all 20. something not many can say that's for sure! Nitpicking 2 cards is totally fine, I personally love the Jeter, visually that's strong but my cards aren't for everyone.

I like your Jeter....you had me RE2PECT.

cnote81 · 12-17-2020, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

That card is so out there, I was afraid to tackle it. Maybe I’m ready now that I’ve see all 20 Fuccis. It should all make sense soon. I just have to get in the right frame of mind, put on the right pair of glasses.

Ichiro in the mushroom kingdom is everything I love about this set. It's something I never knew I needed in my life. If you can make the flames behind Nolan Ryan a statement about identity, I feel like this card should be a cakewalk.

cnote81 · 12-17-2020, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

I'm a sucker for bright colors!

Going through Project 2020 has made me realize my affection for the color yellow.

The colors on Beck's Brett were what drew me to his cards! Made me think of a rad 1989 trapper keeper in the best possible way

eldustino · 12-17-2020, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cnote81

The colors on Beck's Brett were what drew me to his cards! Made me think of a rad 1989 trapper keeper in the best possible way

With all the hints at ages/birthdays, I think we all have a soft spot for trapper keepers in this thread

and I agree.

full disclosure I'm 3-4 months younger than airplanedon.

samcam · 12-17-2020, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I have all 20 of your silver-framed APs /20.

That's awesome. Going into a frame?

mwheeler27 · 12-17-2020, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by samcam

That's awesome. Going into a frame?

Yes, for sure. And one that allows the backs to be seen as well.

samcam · 12-17-2020, 10:43 PM

The original Wheeler design. Cool! I remember.

Now the question is what order do they go into the frame?

Shinjoy · 12-17-2020, 10:48 PM

I just lost an eBay auction on a Larry Doby card to an absurdly high bid. Baseball card market must still be strong.

As another example, an AP print of Ermsy Trout is past $700 with 30 minutes left. [EDIT: And it ends at $885. With a dinged frame]

mwheeler27 · 12-17-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samcam

The original Wheeler design. Cool! I remember.

Now the question is what order do they go into the frame?

Not sure yet. I’d like to keep them in order, but if something else is more eye appealing, I’ll do that.

ObanMontecristo · 12-17-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eldustino

I am for some reason paying for PRO ZOOM so I'd be happy to host. I want to see all of your smiling faces, badly. I will have a large glass of whiskey and promise not to bring up taxes or photography.

whiskey and cigars...now you’re talkin

eldustino · 12-17-2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

I just lost an eBay auction on a Larry Doby card to an absurdly high bid. Baseball card market must still be strong.

As another example, an AP print of Ermsy Trout is past $700 with 30 minutes left.

Larry Doby is one of the cooolest players in the awesomeness : popularity dept. I have a 1951 bowman PSA 6 in a frame.

People still buying cards, that's for sure.

AirplaneDon · 12-17-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by eldustino

With all the hints at ages/birthdays, I think we all have a soft spot for trapper keepers in this thread

and I agree.

full disclosure I'm 3-4 months younger than airplanedon.

Figured we were close given the Bouncing Souls thing.

cnote81 · 12-17-2020, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

Figured we were close given the Bouncing Souls thing.

You guys were into the Bouncing Souls? I saw them at CBGBs when that was still a thing

Shinjoy · 12-17-2020, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eldustino

Larry Doby is one of the cooolest players in the awesomeness : popularity dept. I have a 1951 bowman PSA 6 in a frame.

People still buying cards, that's for sure.

Apparently, people are catching on to how legendary that guy is! This one was also 1951 Bowman. It went for almost 40% over the next highest PSA auction sale.

My collecting regret (other than the signed Dwight Gooden card that I'll never get) is not pulling the trigger on a nice 1953 Topps Satchel Paige last year. Now I have to wait for the market to crash again.

Hopefully, both Doby and Paige make it into Project 2025.

eldustino · 12-17-2020, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cnote81

You guys were into the Bouncing Souls? I saw them at CBGBs when that was still a thing

We are. I [randomly] found the real holiday cocktail lounge with a beautiful woman on a random august afternoon in around 2006 and it remains one of my favorite memories (and songs).

AirplaneDon · 12-17-2020, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cnote81

You guys were into the Bouncing Souls? I saw them at CBGBs when that was still a thing

As Dusty says, we figured it out when I mentioned that song.

I grew up on punk, hardcore, metal, and hip hop (and throw in Motown for good measure thanks to my dad) as your typical suburban white kids who skate usually do haha.

eldustino · 12-17-2020, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

As Dusty says, we figured it out when I mentioned that song.

I grew up on punk, hardcore, metal, and hip hop as your typical suburban white kids who skate usually do haha.

BMX too... but yeah, tribe/nofx/de la/pennywise/digable/ha ha ha. Blue Falcon is part of the gang too.

[edit: I lived in Durango, Colorado which is not really suburban but kind of an extreme version of suburbia - still not at all diverse but plenty of teenage feels to be had]

eldustino · 12-17-2020, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Hopefully, both Doby and Paige make it into Project 2025.

Not trying to pad my post count stats, but have to respond here with fire emoji.

Today's denver post front page/main article was the MLB/Negro leagues announcement with a BOMB/FIRE/CUCUMBER EMOJI photo of Satchel's wind up front and center.

SO RAD. STILL HAVEN'T PROCESSED.

Silas Barnaby · 12-18-2020, 12:03 AM

You guys are all babies.

GumstickStudios · 12-18-2020, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

https://freeonlinesurveys.com/s/874EW1yX

10 -> B until I strike gold.

tblood · 12-18-2020, 12:22 AM

I just looked up Naturel’s Jackie on the bay for the first time in a long time and am mildly surprised at the current price point.

I know it is due to a combination of factors, but I am curious how you all would weight said factors when it comes to pricing? Especially now that we have solid perspective on the project as a whole with it nearing its end. Print run (relative to the entire set, player, or artist?), player, artist, card number, appearance, or something else?

An interesting comparison is Saladeen’s Griffey. Both are the first card for the players and artists.

Naturel Jackie - recent sales ~$350-400
- PR = 1302
- Lowest PR Jackie
- Lowest PR Naturel

Saladeen Griffey - recent sales ~$200-250
- PR = 2504
- Lowest PR Griffey
- 6th Lowest PR Saladeen

Fun tidbit... I went back and read some of the initial commentary on each card upon their release. The Jackie was not nearly as well received as the Griffey.

So... is the current pricing for both cards where you expect it to be, or is the Jackie overvalued and the Griffey under performing?

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Silas Barnaby · 12-18-2020, 12:30 AM

I am dating myself a bit with this question, but do any of the old heads still here remember the infamous table picture Wheeler posted with stacks of the early Project 2020 cards?

Back when the street value of the Beck Gooden was $10k and he had a 10-deep stacks of Beck Gooden, Ermsy Trout, Baller Ichiro...

What does that table look like right now at this exact moment?

samcam · 12-18-2020, 01:00 AM

Table fell through the earth...not in value crash, just sheer weight.

I imagine Wheels had to put up a pole barn or two!

12-17-2020, 10:48 PM	#63010
Shinjoy Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,804	I just lost an eBay auction on a Larry Doby card to an absurdly high bid. Baseball card market must still be strong. As another example, an AP print of Ermsy Trout is past $700 with 30 minutes left. [EDIT: And it ends at $885. With a dinged frame] Last edited by Shinjoy; 12-17-2020 at 11:16 PM.

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samcam Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,416	The original Wheeler design. Cool! I remember. Now the question is what order do they go into the frame?

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Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,242	You guys are all babies.

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tblood Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: OH-IO Posts: 751	I just looked up Naturel’s Jackie on the bay for the first time in a long time and am mildly surprised at the current price point. I know it is due to a combination of factors, but I am curious how you all would weight said factors when it comes to pricing? Especially now that we have solid perspective on the project as a whole with it nearing its end. Print run (relative to the entire set, player, or artist?), player, artist, card number, appearance, or something else? An interesting comparison is Saladeen’s Griffey. Both are the first card for the players and artists. Naturel Jackie - recent sales ~$350-400 - PR = 1302 - Lowest PR Jackie - Lowest PR Naturel Saladeen Griffey - recent sales ~$200-250 - PR = 2504 - Lowest PR Griffey - 6th Lowest PR Saladeen Fun tidbit... I went back and read some of the initial commentary on each card upon their release. The Jackie was not nearly as well received as the Griffey. So... is the current pricing for both cards where you expect it to be, or is the Jackie overvalued and the Griffey under performing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Silas Barnaby Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Bogeyland Posts: 8,242	I am dating myself a bit with this question, but do any of the old heads still here remember the infamous table picture Wheeler posted with stacks of the early Project 2020 cards? Back when the street value of the Beck Gooden was $10k and he had a 10-deep stacks of Beck Gooden, Ermsy Trout, Baller Ichiro... What does that table look like right now at this exact moment?

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samcam Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,416	Table fell through the earth...not in value crash, just sheer weight. I imagine Wheels had to put up a pole barn or two!