Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 2507

ChutneyGrey · 12-16-2020, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Aaaaaaaand, I am out, exactly twenty cards and done for buying. Clean and easy.

So glad the final Jeter dropped today, that means I will have them sooner than I had expected.

Not a fan of today's Jackie.

The Thomas is real nice, I like that a lot.

Love to know your Jeter rankings.....and did you just purchase Jeter cards?

cp312 · 12-16-2020, 02:27 PM

DON C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the Efdot Thomas too

cavsfan70 · 12-16-2020, 02:28 PM

okay... chasing the Jeter foil. here we go.

NYRE2PECT · 12-16-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChutneyGrey

Love to know your Jeter rankings.....and did you just purchase Jeter cards?

Yes, I will rank them, that will be fun, and DJ is my PC so it was actually very easy to stay focused there. I’ve shared these pictures before, but will share again for fun. The third frame will be the P2020 that I napkin-ed out and got some good feedback on.

^Before the 93 Topps picture I had all of these as part of the set. Then I ran into some tax goofs, built a pool, and replaced the stairs, so these helped white some of those expenses.

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Bleu Falcon · 12-16-2020, 02:32 PM

Wow, that Jeter is bottom ten all the way.

redauto5 · 12-16-2020, 02:33 PM

Love the Siff Jackie. Perfect bookend to the Brett. Yes its violent, but to call him white is missing the point. His skin is kind of a pebbled texture. It definitely brings something out in me, something uncomfortable. It's like he had tough skin to do what he did. To be who he was. But there was a cost, hence the expression and the red outline. Beautiful.

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PDCCollectibles · 12-16-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Jackie Robinson being white is not going over well on the internet

It's almost like the fuzz on a black and white older TV.....maybe Siff's version is interpreting breaking the black/white barrier in MLB?

ThoseBackPages · 12-16-2020, 02:34 PM

makes me ill to look at the card.

i guess that could be seen as "good"

ThoseBackPages · 12-16-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

It's almost like the fuzz on a black and white older TV.....maybe Siff's version is interpreting breaking the black/white barrier in MLB?

could be!

AirplaneDon · 12-16-2020, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

that Jackie is disgusting

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Originally Posted by Oliroller

Siff fans will defend this one again. Ridiculous

If you loved his Ripken, you'll love his Jackie. Pretty similar technique, just with an added cap and then a mini portrait and words for the background.

ThoseBackPages · 12-16-2020, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

If you loved his Ripken, you'll love his Jackie. Pretty similar technique, just with an added cap and then a mini portrait and words for the background.

no Sir.

PDCCollectibles · 12-16-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

If you loved his Ripken, you'll love his Jackie. Pretty similar technique, just with an added cap and then a mini portrait and words for the background.

I'm not so sure about that....Siff Ripken remains Top 5 for me...his Jackie isn't comparable to Ripken, imo.

ThoseBackPages · 12-16-2020, 02:37 PM

His Ripken reminds me of Sienkiewicz New Mutants covers

This card makes me queasy

armenexchange · 12-16-2020, 02:38 PM

yeah not sure how people are interpreting Jackie as white. lol Looks like stone/granite. It's tough

dodgersinfinity · 12-16-2020, 02:38 PM

oh boy that Siff Jackie

fjdlrw · 12-16-2020, 02:39 PM

The writing along the stop of the Jeter takes me right to 1996 Leaf Signature.

ThoseBackPages · 12-16-2020, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fjdlrw

The writing along the stop of the Jeter takes me right to 1996 Leaf Signature.

good call!

AirplaneDon · 12-16-2020, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

no Sir.

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Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

I'm not so sure about that....Siff Ripken remains Top 5 for me...his Jackie isn't comparable to Ripken, imo.

Tongue-in-cheek. The techniques for the main image are extremely similar, but I don't actually expect people to like both or anything. People will carry expectations and biases that will be different for each player and each artist. It would be a foolish to say if you liked A, you should like (or dislike) B with any kind of serious intent.

ChutneyGrey · 12-16-2020, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Yes, I will rank them, that will be fun, and DJ is my PC so it was actually very easy to stay focused there. I’ve shared these pictures before, but will share again for fun. The third frame will be the P2020 that I napkin-ed out and got some good feedback on.

^Before the 93 Topps picture I had all of these as part of the set. Then I ran into some tax goofs, built a pool, and replaced the stairs, so these helped white some of those expenses.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Very nice! Jeter rookies and 1993 in general were the last years I collected until Project 2020. Sent the rookies I had off to PSA just recently and have dived back in collecting the many cards I missed over the years.

mwheeler27 · 12-16-2020, 02:47 PM

Ermsy companions are up:

https://project2020.ermsy.com/

eldustino · 12-16-2020, 02:48 PM

That Siff Jackie is perfect to me. Love the debate here... and I respect the opposite takes.

I think it's stretch (for me) that the literal white paint used in the card, is somehow insensitive with regards to Jackie being Black. That said I am not Black so I could easily be missing something.

It's a cool, violent, surprising piece that I enjoy. I can't stop staring.

AirplaneDon · 12-16-2020, 02:48 PM

I like the Jackie, I just wish the words to the left stopped at "the 1st ever". I don't like the words with the hearts, the hearts in the bat say the words for me personally. It's a lot to process at first, but my eyes settle on the red drawing/outline of Jackie and the hearts. It's nice once I get past the initial punch. It makes me emotional in a calming way in the end once I settle in on the red outline. Some of his cards can be jarring and never find a calm, this one I find it. It's beautiful in my eyes. I'm happy. Today is a good day.

NYRE2PECT · 12-16-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

I like the Jackie, I just wish the words to the left stopped at "the 1st ever". I don't like the words with the hearts, the hearts in the bat say the words for me personally. It's a lot to process at first, but my eyes settle on the red drawing/outline of Jackie and the hearts. It's nice once I get past the initial punch. It makes me emotional in a calming way in the end once I settle in on the red outline. Some of his cards can be jarring and never find a calm, this one I find it. It's beautiful in my eyes. I'm happy. Today is a good day.

Somebody above mentioned it looking like granite...upon further reflection, I would agree. It's not white, IMO.

ChutneyGrey · 12-16-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

Tongue-in-cheek. The techniques for the main image are extremely similar, but I don't actually expect people to like both or anything. People will carry expectations and biases that will be different for each player and each artist. It would be a foolish to say if you liked A, you should like (or dislike) B with any kind of serious intent.

This is so true! I would say however from this project Ermsy and his style has carried over from card to card as far as like this like that or vice versa. And maybe even Fucci and Shore? Something about the cartoon, whimsical look easier to have the same feel for (like or dislike)?

GumstickStudios · 12-16-2020, 02:53 PM

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Card# and PRs—on it..

Alright guys—card numbers and print runs are now on the matrix!

http://gumstickstudios.com/p2020/matrix.html

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,420 ThoseBackPages	makes me ill to look at the card. i guess that could be seen as "good" __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,420 ThoseBackPages	His Ripken reminds me of Sienkiewicz New Mutants covers This card makes me queasy __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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cavsfan70 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: OH > TN > NC Posts: 1,195 nosebleed70 bigcontracts	okay... chasing the Jeter foil. here we go.

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Bleu Falcon Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Chavez Ravine Adjacent Posts: 850	Wow, that Jeter is bottom ten all the way.

12-16-2020, 02:33 PM	#62656
redauto5 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,307	Love the Siff Jackie. Perfect bookend to the Brett. Yes its violent, but to call him white is missing the point. His skin is kind of a pebbled texture. It definitely brings something out in me, something uncomfortable. It's like he had tough skin to do what he did. To be who he was. But there was a cost, hence the expression and the red outline. Beautiful. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

12-16-2020, 02:38 PM	#62664
armenexchange Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 135	yeah not sure how people are interpreting Jackie as white. lol Looks like stone/granite. It's tough

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dodgersinfinity Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: CA Posts: 1,119 gza73	oh boy that Siff Jackie

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fjdlrw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michgan Posts: 1,290 fred*danielle	The writing along the stop of the Jeter takes me right to 1996 Leaf Signature.

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mwheeler27 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NorthEast Kansas Posts: 18,419 mwheeler27 mwheeler27	Ermsy companions are up: https://project2020.ermsy.com/

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eldustino Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 2,247	That Siff Jackie is perfect to me. Love the debate here... and I respect the opposite takes. I think it's stretch (for me) that the literal white paint used in the card, is somehow insensitive with regards to Jackie being Black. That said I am not Black so I could easily be missing something. It's a cool, violent, surprising piece that I enjoy. I can't stop staring.

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AirplaneDon Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Philly Posts: 2,095	I like the Jackie, I just wish the words to the left stopped at "the 1st ever". I don't like the words with the hearts, the hearts in the bat say the words for me personally. It's a lot to process at first, but my eyes settle on the red drawing/outline of Jackie and the hearts. It's nice once I get past the initial punch. It makes me emotional in a calming way in the end once I settle in on the red outline. Some of his cards can be jarring and never find a calm, this one I find it. It's beautiful in my eyes. I'm happy. Today is a good day.