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Old 11-20-2020, 10:25 AM   #63776
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Meltdowns by the left are almost as good with Trump losing as I imagined with him winning! Love it!
No doubt remains about how deeply ingrained TDS is. I honestly didn’t expect this to be so prevalent for so long. Democrats won! Take a victory lap. Take three. There’s no need for the perpetual outrage.
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Old 11-20-2020, 10:29 AM   #63777
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No doubt remains about how deeply ingrained TDS is. I honestly didn’t expect this to be so prevalent for so long. Democrats won! Take a victory lap. Take three. There’s no need for the perpetual outrage.
One of my closest friends is a die-hard Trumper. She has this whole apocalyptic doom-and-gloom view of Biden's presidency. Her daily life now includes fear and conspiracy theories about a fourth Industrial Revolution that requires a much smaller population than we have now. It's insane and I truly feel bad for her.

Trump did that to her. Trump validated all that nonsense and caused many people to give it credence. It's both sad and disgusting. I honestly think she needs professional help to deal with it.

She never cared much about politics before Trump. She's near 50 and I don't think we ever talked about it before he came along. That irresponsible man changed her without ever even knowing it.

I get the outrage. It's easy to understand. The things that man did to this country are going to take a while to fix.

Dems do need to take a victory lap. Then I hope they'll get to work undoing the madness Trump created.

Hopefully we can get a conservative back in 2024, but if it's another man like Trump, I'd literally go out canvassing for Kamala.

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Are either of the babes in your avatar available?
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:34 AM   #63780
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:53 AM   #63782
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Old 11-20-2020, 11:55 AM   #63783
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One of my closest friends is a die-hard Trumper. She has this whole apocalyptic doom-and-gloom view of Biden's presidency. Her daily life now includes fear and conspiracy theories about a fourth Industrial Revolution that requires a much smaller population than we have now. It's insane and I truly feel bad for her.

Trump did that to her. Trump validated all that nonsense and caused many people to give it credence. It's both sad and disgusting. I honestly think she needs professional help to deal with it.

She never cared much about politics before Trump. She's near 50 and I don't think we ever talked about it before he came along. That irresponsible man changed her without ever even knowing it.

I get the outrage. It's easy to understand. The things that man did to this country are going to take a while to fix.

Dems do need to take a victory lap. Then I hope they'll get to work undoing the madness Trump created.

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No he didn't. She allowed herself to get wrapped up in the crazy. You can't blame Trump for your friend's crazy. How far off the deep end any of us decide to go is on us.
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No he didn't. She allowed herself to get wrapped up in the crazy. You can't blame Trump for your friend's crazy. How far off the deep end any of us decide to go is on us.
Sure.

But there are millions of Americans teetering on the edge of crazy and a guy like Trump can push a bunch of them over the edge. We've seen it, lived it for the past few years.

A guy like Ice Cube, Muhammed Ali, or Ted Nugent can do the same thing, but not like Trump. With great power comes great responsibility.

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absolutely dangerous, this man!!!
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absolutely dangerous, this man!!!
Not any more. The American public clipped his...you know. Now he's just a sad, pathetic, powerless shell of a man tweeting from a bunker about the good ol' days.

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Not any more. The American public clipped his...you know. Now he's just a sad, pathetic, powerless shell of a man tweeting from a bunker about the good ol' days.

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no, I don't. clipped his what?
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:23 PM   #63788
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One of my closest friends is a die-hard Trumper. She has this whole apocalyptic doom-and-gloom view of Biden's presidency. Her daily life now includes fear and conspiracy theories about a fourth Industrial Revolution that requires a much smaller population than we have now. It's insane and I truly feel bad for her.

Trump did that to her. Trump validated all that nonsense and caused many people to give it credence. It's both sad and disgusting. I honestly think she needs professional help to deal with it.

She never cared much about politics before Trump. She's near 50 and I don't think we ever talked about it before he came along. That irresponsible man changed her without ever even knowing it.

I get the outrage. It's easy to understand. The things that man did to this country are going to take a while to fix.

Dems do need to take a victory lap. Then I hope they'll get to work undoing the madness Trump created.

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This is one thing that I've noticed the last few years and that is a loss in personal accountability, lets blame someone the President of the United States. I mean come on... And if you believe President Trump has caused madness, just wait until he is gone and Biden takes over with his regime. It's already starting and it's not conspiracies it is there words not someone's opinion.
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And while I'm on the topic of things that I've seen degrade in this country is respect for the office of the President. I don't care if you like him or not whatever happened to respecting the office. I understand that can be a hard pill to swallow at times. It has been in the past for me, but whatever happened to doing what is right regardless of others actions?

And if you believe that Joe Biden and his regime are going to bring us together and fix everything I don't even know what to say.
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And while I'm on the topic of things that I've seen degrade in this country is respect for the office of the President. I don't care if you like him or not whatever happened to respecting the office. I understand that can be a hard pill to swallow at times. It has been in the past for me, but whatever happened to doing what is right regardless of others actions?

And if you believe that Joe Biden and his regime are going to bring us together and fix everything I don't even know what to say.
Trump deserves zero respect and it’s all of his own doing. And that’s only based on his behavior these last two weeks.

I agree that Biden won’t do anything for unity.
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This is one thing that I've noticed the last few years and that is a loss in personal accountability, lets blame someone the President of the United States. I mean come on... And if you believe President Trump has caused madness, just wait until he is gone and Biden takes over with his regime. It's already starting and it's not conspiracies it is there words not someone's opinion.
Okay.

Let's not blame leaders like Stalin for all the evil that his regime committed. His soldiers are the murderers, not him. Let's not blame Pol Pot for the killing fields. His soldiers actually committed the crimes. How about Mao? Are the evils in China during his tenure not attributable to him? Personal responsibility says he is blameless unless he was the trigger man?

Leaders cause people to do things, act certain ways. Those people have responsibility for their actions, but it doesn't just stop there. Responsibility also falls on leadership.

Trump is responsible for pushing and validating the nonsensical conspiracy theories that now infect this country as a result. Without his apparent consent through retweets and whatnot, many people wouldn't be the way they are today. Trump took advantage of public trust and abused it in ways many don't seem to understand yet.

Trump is not solely responsible, but he is responsible.

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Man, lot's of crazy in here tonight. Rest easy Trump haters, it will all be over soon. Our republic is as safe as it ever was. Scranton Joe is here to save us all.
Dementia Joe won't be president 6 months before the Democrats deem him unfit. Then trashy Kamala takes over and then we are really screwed then.
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Old 11-20-2020, 12:45 PM   #63793
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Trump deserves zero respect and it’s all of his own doing. And that’s only based on his behavior these last two weeks.

I agree that Biden won’t do anything for unity.
My point is too many people make about the person not the office. The names he has been called, etc is appalling to me. I would never do that just because I don't like someone. I didn't like President Obama at all and I mean at all, but I respected the office of the President.
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And while I'm on the topic of things that I've seen degrade in this country is respect for the office of the President. I don't care if you like him or not whatever happened to respecting the office. I understand that can be a hard pill to swallow at times. It has been in the past for me, but whatever happened to doing what is right regardless of others actions?

And if you believe that Joe Biden and his regime are going to bring us together and fix everything I don't even know what to say.
Agreed.

Since day 1, he's shown an unconscionable amount of disrespect for the gravity and history of the office.
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My point is too many people make about the person not the office. The names he has been called, etc is appalling to me. I would never do that just because I don't like someone. I didn't like President Obama at all and I mean at all, but I respected the office of the President.
Imagine if these people lived in other parts of the world. It's ironic, they have the freedom to say virtually anything they want about the President. Try that in North Korea, Russia, China and see what happens?
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Okay.

Let's not blame leaders like Stalin for all the evil that his regime committed. His soldiers are the murderers, not him. Let's not blame Pol Pot for the killing fields. His soldiers actually committed the crimes. How about Mao? Are the evils in China during his tenure not attributable to him? Personal responsibility says he is blameless unless he was the trigger man?

Leaders cause people to do things, act certain ways. Those people have responsibility for their actions, but it doesn't just stop there. Responsibility also falls on leadership.

Trump is responsible for pushing and validating the nonsensical conspiracy theories that now infect this country as a result. Without his apparent consent through retweets and whatnot, many people wouldn't be the way they are today. Trump took advantage of public trust and abused it in ways many don't seem to understand yet.

Trump is not solely responsible, but he is responsible.

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Are you seriously comparing Trump to Stalin just because of his retweets, etc. I'm sorry there is a big difference between a leader making orders to his soldiers and what you are accusing President Trump of supposedly doing. I never said unless your the trigger man then you aren't accountable.
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Agreed.

Since day 1, he's shown an unconscionable amount of disrespect for the gravity and history of the office.
And the people that stoop to levels of calling him and his supporters all sorts of offensive names, etc. are no better then. Nice try though
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Imagine if these people lived in other parts of the world. It's ironic, they have the freedom to say virtually anything they want about the President. Try that in North Korea, Russia, China and see what happens?
The wouldn't be able to tell you personally that is for sure.
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My point is too many people make about the person not the office. The names he has been called, etc is appalling to me. I would never do that just because I don't like someone. I didn't like President Obama at all and I mean at all, but I respected the office of the President.
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Trump earned every bit of it and more. He volunteered for the job and yes, it comes with criticism. He himself was brutal to Obama.

Yes, we are free to criticize our leaders. That's pretty awesome. : )

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Trump earned every bit of it and more. He volunteered for the job and yes, it comes with criticism. He himself was brutal to Obama.

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What I find funny is people hate Trump because of what he says about people and then they turn right around and do the same things?? Makes no sense to me at all.
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