Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

Regarding Thiele’s Thomas, it’s some of the best art in the set. It takes elements of the original card and makes it so much more than a baseball card. It doesn’t need foil (though maybe he chose it for that silly last minute insert) or any other “effects”. What he uses to create a story and visual interest in the card is genius, his subtle incorporation of the base card is clever, and he’s given everyone a chance to own some dope art at $20.

People are buying 2.5x3.5 inch baseball cards printed by a baseball card company. You have to design for the medium.

Ain't no shame in foil. It's a time-honored way to show colors in a small image. This was the perfect card to experiment on as his foil card.

I may be wrong -- I'll probably buy a copy of the card to see. There's a lot to like about it. And, I've only gotten Fucci and Grotesk so far this week.

[mudflap02]

The city of chicago

will like to thank

frank thomas

[mudflap02]

There's a lot going on there. I think PR's on these will be ~2200 each or less. In on both.

[dodgersinfinity]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

There's a lot going on there. I think PR's on these will be ~2200 each or less. In on both.

less on both

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

different how? is the card itself different?

Yes, of course. The card is physically different.

This has been stated in this thread numerous times. I understand people not wanting to understand it. I get it.

[ChutneyGrey]

Originally Posted by Kek5270

Latest Cartoon companion arrived. This is the car(d) show so far...

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These look great! I only have the 75' got it off Ebay, the quality is top notch!

[efdot]

Hey everyone, my Trout AND Ichiro collections are now LIVE and available to the public! (No password required).




Go check out the new cards.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by ChutneyGrey

Gold foil stamp, after the printing of the card.

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

by hand?

LOL!!!

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Kek5270

Latest Cartoon companion arrived. This is the car(d) show so far...

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Outstanding!

[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

People are buying 2.5x3.5 inch baseball cards printed by a baseball card company. You have to design for the medium.

Ain't no shame in foil. It's a time-honored way to show colors in a small image. This was the perfect card to experiment on as his foil card.

I may be wrong -- I'll probably buy a copy of the card to see. There's a lot to like about it. And, I've only gotten Fucci and Grotesk so far this week.

And as I said, the way he used color to bisect the card, and sized the main images vs supporting images will allow to work as a 2.5 x 3.5

I’ve come around on what is possible on 2.5 x 3.5 after living with JK5s set for a while. He’s done things that will allow it to work in the baseball card size format even if it doesn’t look like a normal card (which to me is part of the joy of the set, reimagine what cards can look like).

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by ChutneyGrey

Think 92' Topps was the first Gold card? Believe the first parallel product? Same card printed just embossed with gold.

Unless you count ‘91 Desert Shield or Tiffany sets

[dodgersinfinity]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Yes, of course. The card is physically different.

This has been stated in this thread numerous times. I understand people not wanting to understand it. I get it.

Yes the APs are not just the base with silver frame. They are printed differently, smaller and imo brighter if that makes sense.

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by Kek5270

Latest Cartoon companion arrived. This is the car(d) show so far...

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Is that a 1987 Buick Regal? [Caddy?] He's really going to be struggling to fill his 1980 to 1990 companion cards. I'd consider a 1989 Nissan 300ZX or 1990 Miata companion.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by efdot

Hey everyone, my Trout AND Ichiro collections are now LIVE and available to the public! (No password required).




Go check out the new cards.

More outstanding companion cards!

The one with the dog is a companion companion card.

[ChutneyGrey]

Originally Posted by dodgersinfinity

Yes the APs are not just the base with silver frame. They are printed differently, smaller and imo brighter if that makes sense.

All of Vides cards and the AP cards are both printed differently, Vides mentioned this very early on.

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by efdot

Hey everyone, my Trout AND Ichiro collections are now LIVE and available to the public! (No password required).




Go check out the new cards.

Grabbed a Trout!

[UGLI baby]

Should have been more specific...

I grabbed a Meteor Blob!!

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

And as I said, the way he used color to bisect the card, and sized the main images vs supporting images will allow to work as a 2.5 x 3.5

I’ve come around on what is possible on 2.5 x 3.5 after living with JK5s set for a while. He’s done things that will allow it to work in the baseball card size format even if it doesn’t look like a normal card (which to me is part of the joy of the set, reimagine what cards can look like).

I hate disagreeing with you, but bisecting a 2.5x3.5 image into two smaller images, one that's greyed out and one that has limited reference to Frank Thomas other than font that will be impossible to read on a printed card, is an idea that I hope is never used again on a baseball card.

[samcam]

Originally Posted by Kek5270

Latest Cartoon companion arrived. This is the car(d) show so far...

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Nice! We hit the same Auto.

I'm not really a car nut or anything but the eye appeal of that set is outstanding.

Love that Ichiro companion Eric!

[cj828282]

Just received the Sophia Trout replacement and one was a foil parallel.




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[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

I hate disagreeing with you, but bisecting a 2.5x3.5 image into two smaller images, one that's greyed out and one that has limited reference to Frank Thomas other than font that will be impossible to read on a printed card, is an idea that I hope is never used again on a baseball card.

I mean it’s not as if there aren’t bisected cards in the set, as well as base cards like the Koufax rookie. (Edit: you also have an entire artist set of shrunken images with additional characters added to the card, and those all “work”).

It’s fine you disagree, I just think it’s totally inconsistent thinking that bisecting a card would render it unworkable as a baseball card given all the examples within baseball card history of bisecting, dual players, dual images, etc.

The card has life. And I know exactly who is on it at a glance whether my eye goes to the score board or the main player image (name ties right in with the main image to my eye). Shrug.

One last edit: If your complaint is mostly around how dark an area is, and colors being used to bisect, then I can’t really argue. A lot of his cards are dark. I think it gives off a really cool white Sox vibe to the card, specifically the bottom half. So for me, that works, but I understand the too dark complaint, and I know Silas agrees with you.

[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by dodgersinfinity

Yes the APs are not just the base with silver frame. They are printed differently, smaller and imo brighter if that makes sense.

If they never did the art prints I’d still be looking at grabbing a couple APs. But I’d prefer a print vs an AP as it works better for what I’m looking for personally. I don’t get the hate for APs outside of the botting and price increase.

[UGLI baby]

I love AP /20 cards!!

1) 1/1 Gold frame

2) 1/20 AP

3) 20/20 AP

[UGLI baby]

I have a few #1/20 AP's and a few #20/20 AP's. I think you could make the argument the #20/20 AP is the best version of the card outside of the gold frame. Project 2020!

[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

I have a few #1/20 AP's and a few #20/20 AP's. I think you could make the argument the #20/20 AP is the best version of the card outside of the gold frame. Project 2020!

You and Wheeler are the true heroes of this set.