2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2445

Ty Hope · 11-09-2020, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuurgle

They're all still in denial and drinking the KoolAid that the results will all change once Donny gets his lawyers to fix it.

Or they just choose to not destroy their own towns and cities.

JustRachel · 11-09-2020, 01:37 AM

Trump is just posturing at this point. I'm not sure why... personal gain maybe?

He has no chance at gaining a win via the courts and he knows it. Anyone that has taken the time to read through his legal arguments knows this. His arguments are just silly. He is, sadly, arguing things that do not matter. I mean, his arguments are so insignificant that even if we assume he is correct (which he hasn't proven, but let's go with it for the sake of discussion) he still would not win. We could grant him favorable rulings in every court case he has filed and it wouldn't change the outcome of this election. I'm not sure if people realize that.

In many cases, he is challenging specific ballots. That is his right. But even if he wins those challenges, those votes won't be enough to overturn the election. He simply doesn't have enough specific votes to challenge.

And even if he overturned a state (which he can't), none of the states he is challenging are enough to overturn the election.

It's laughable. Why is he doing this? Posturing I'd guess. He knows the election is unwinnable in court. He has some other goal. He must.

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GOWIFB · 11-09-2020, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Trump is just posturing at this point. I'm not sure why... personal gain maybe?

He has no chance at gaining a win via the courts and he knows it. Anyone that has taken the time to read through his legal arguments knows this. His arguments are just silly. He is, sadly, arguing things that do not matter. I mean, his arguments are so insignificant that even if we assume he is correct (which he hasn't proven, but let's go with it for the sake of discussion) he still would not win. We could grant him favorable rulings in every court case he has filed and it wouldn't change the outcome of this election. I'm not sure if people realize that.

In many cases, he is challenging specific ballots. That is his right. But even if he wins those challenges, those votes won't be enough to overturn the election. He simply doesn't have enough specific votes to challenge.

And even if he overturned a state (which he can't), none of the states he is challenging are enough to overturn the election.

It's laughable. Why is he doing this? Posturing I'd guess. He knows the election is unwinnable in court. He has some other goal. He must.

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I believe what is going to happen is he is going to be able to pick out rare instances here and there of an improper or illegal ballot, or like in Michigan where there was a minor computer glitch that was corrected, and try to argue that the entire mail in ballot system should be thrown out and only in person ballots count. Feel that was his plan from the very beginning if he lost, he was going to end up discrediting the entire system. That is my biggest fear in this process. Also I feel he is going to rile up his supporters and use them to try to intimidate judges, the SOS, or other election officials.

quackhead · 11-09-2020, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Lol.

Why take the "L"?

Two reasons.

1) Trump lost. That's fact.
2) It's the right thing to do.

But thanks for the chuckle.

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Glad I can make you laugh, despite telling the truth.

quackhead · 11-09-2020, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GOWIFB

If Biden was making radical claims about mass voter fraud both before and after the election I seriously doubt the media would be supporting him.

Why would he make radical claims if the Democrats were in on the fraud??

pingbling23 · 11-09-2020, 03:20 AM

some of trumps priorities were to bring corruption and hypocrisy to light. corruption and hypocrisy in politics, washington, media, and now voting. mission accomplished.

CoolG · 11-09-2020, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

Or they just choose to not destroy their own towns and cities.

..... and looks like he was correct with vaccine coming soon during debates.
Check Pfizer news
Stock market up 1400 in futures

kidfan9 · 11-09-2020, 08:09 AM

Can't help but wonder how different the election results would have been if this vaccine news would have broke one week ago.

CoolG · 11-09-2020, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kidfan9

Can't help but wonder how different the election results would have been if this vaccine news would have broke one week ago.

Way different. IMO
I wouldn’t have made my Biden bet if news broke days prior to election

Brobocop · 11-09-2020, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

some of trumps priorities were to bring corruption and hypocrisy to light. corruption and hypocrisy in politics, washington, media, and now voting. mission accomplished.

LMAO, dude is CORRUPT and a HYPOCRITE and found no real instance of VOTER FRAUD. His followers, the devout ones, are truly sad people. Take the L and move on. Trump didn't expose a thing, in fact, he contributed to the issues that were already there.

JustinVerlander07 · 11-09-2020, 08:27 AM

Not sure the obvious has been brought up, but interesting that the same people claiming that the election was rigged for Biden also haven't said a word about the senate or house elections being rigged since ya know, they're on the same ballots.........

rcmb3220 · 11-09-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

some of trumps priorities were to bring corruption and hypocrisy to light. corruption and hypocrisy in politics, washington, media, and now voting. mission accomplished.

No corruption in voting. It’s a favorite bogeyman of the right, like voter suppression is for the left.

Very disappointed that the GOP is falling in line with this. I’ll give them a few more days to change their stance.

lietuvalabas · 11-09-2020, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

This woman, I swear!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kayleigh-...213712868.html

You're joking right? The dems whined, bit***d, and moaned and said super spreader event every time Trump held a rally...

mike1498 · 11-09-2020, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rcmb3220

No corruption in voting. It’s a favorite bogeyman of the right, like voter suppression is for the left.

Very disappointed that the GOP is falling in line with this. I’ll give them a few more days to change their stance.

Don't get your hopes up. Stupidity isn't a party. The left already showed us their tin foil hats the last four years and here comes the right

cnewby · 11-09-2020, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rcmb3220

No corruption in voting. It’s a favorite bogeyman of the right, like voter suppression is for the left.

Very disappointed that the GOP is falling in line with this. I’ll give them a few more days to change their stance.

And then what?

Brobocop · 11-09-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Not sure the obvious has been brought up, but interesting that the same people claiming that the election was rigged for Biden also haven't said a word about the senate or house elections being rigged since ya know, they're on the same ballots.........

That requires critical thinking. Some people just don't want to take that L. Senate seats like Cal Cunningham seemed to be a pretty good lock and now he's down by over 2%.

What I find amazing is that Democrats never have said that the voting process is fraudulent, in 2020 or 2016. The Democrats were more concerned with how Russian propaganda found its way into our system and was so readily digested by the people. I don't ever recall Democrats saying that there were fraudulent ballots cast in 2016. The Republicans though, a small segment of them at least, are always crying about the actual voting process.

lietuvalabas · 11-09-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Not sure the obvious has been brought up, but interesting that the same people claiming that the election was rigged for Biden also haven't said a word about the senate or house elections being rigged since ya know, they're on the same ballots.........

Lawyers (yes on fox news) said there were many ballots pushed thru with only Biden's name filled in. True or not, what's everyones rush for Trump to concede? Let the man get his lawyers in and do the recounts and investigation. Didn't hear the left complaining when it was a Russian investigation that didn't just last weeks, but years.

Edit: I know people like to say put your money where your mouth is. If Trump needed donations to do this I'd toss money in and I'm sure millions of others would too. Let's get this right, official, and done with. Even if it means he still lost.

JustinVerlander07 · 11-09-2020, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lietuvalabas

Lawyers (yes on fox news) said there were many ballots pushed thru with only Biden's name filled in. True or not, what's everyones rush for Trump to concede? Let the man get his lawyers in and do the recounts and investigation. Didn't hear the left complaining when it was a Russian investigation that didn't just last week's, but years.

Do your recounts and whatever, crying like a child because you lost is pathetic which is what he's doing, and his followers just eat it up.

lietuvalabas · 11-09-2020, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Do your recounts and whatever, crying like a child because you lost is pathetic which is what he's doing, and his followers just eat it up.

Again....i present to you the 2016 election..

mike1498 · 11-09-2020, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Do your recounts and whatever, crying like a child because you lost is pathetic which is what he's doing, and his followers just eat it up.

Sounds like 2016 all over right? Everyone's a sore loser. Stop acting like this is new news

JustinVerlander07 · 11-09-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lietuvalabas

Again....i present to you the 2016 election..

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Originally Posted by mike1498

Sounds like 2016 all over right? Everyone's a sore loser. Stop acting like this is new news

My stance was the same in 2016. Don't cry because you didn't get your way. The president of the country throwing this big of a hissy fit is just so embarrassing. Act like a grown man.

persona · 11-09-2020, 08:45 AM

Election is over and Vaccine news is out.

mike1498 · 11-09-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

My stance was the same in 2016. Don't cry because you didn't get your way. The president of the country throwing this big of a hissy fit is just so embarrassing. Act like a grown man.

Maybe you did idk. It was surely the stance of the right in 2016 but look at them now....

A lot of short memories is all I have to say.....

lietuvalabas · 11-09-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by persona

Election is over and Vaccine news is out.

Funny how this virus isn't at all political right?

JustinVerlander07 · 11-09-2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

Maybe you did idk. It was surely the stance of the right in 2016 but look at them now....

A lot of short memories is all I have to say.....

As I've said many times in this thread, I didn't vote for Biden. No skin in the game. Interesting that you resort to going back to 2016 vs acknowledging what he's doing and the negative impact it's having.

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Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania	34	41.46%
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kidfan9 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,541	Can't help but wonder how different the election results would have been if this vaccine news would have broke one week ago. __________________ Ted Williams-Baseball's last .400 hitter

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JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 16,539 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	Not sure the obvious has been brought up, but interesting that the same people claiming that the election was rigged for Biden also haven't said a word about the senate or house elections being rigged since ya know, they're on the same ballots......... __________________ Dan LeFevour PC 214/299 "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

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persona Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,871	Election is over and Vaccine news is out. __________________ *Please let me know in advance if you can not ship within Two Business days.

11-09-2020, 01:37 AM	#61102
JustRachel Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 5,663	Trump is just posturing at this point. I'm not sure why... personal gain maybe? He has no chance at gaining a win via the courts and he knows it. Anyone that has taken the time to read through his legal arguments knows this. His arguments are just silly. He is, sadly, arguing things that do not matter. I mean, his arguments are so insignificant that even if we assume he is correct (which he hasn't proven, but let's go with it for the sake of discussion) he still would not win. We could grant him favorable rulings in every court case he has filed and it wouldn't change the outcome of this election. I'm not sure if people realize that. In many cases, he is challenging specific ballots. That is his right. But even if he wins those challenges, those votes won't be enough to overturn the election. He simply doesn't have enough specific votes to challenge. And even if he overturned a state (which he can't), none of the states he is challenging are enough to overturn the election. It's laughable. Why is he doing this? Posturing I'd guess. He knows the election is unwinnable in court. He has some other goal. He must. Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

11-09-2020, 03:20 AM	#61106
pingbling23 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 15,932 pingbling23	some of trumps priorities were to bring corruption and hypocrisy to light. corruption and hypocrisy in politics, washington, media, and now voting. mission accomplished.