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Donald Trump 44 53.66%
Joe Biden 38 46.34%
Trump Wins Florida 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Florida 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia 12 14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio 43 52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania 27 32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania 34 41.46%
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:42 PM   #59026
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I don't think there is anything wrong with them keeping the most powerful person in the world from telling blatant lies on their networks.

It's far too dangerous to let someone with his power to say the things he does without any checks and balances as many people don't watch the news networks that correct them.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:44 PM   #59027
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I don't think there is anything wrong with them keeping the most powerful person in the world from telling blatant lies on their networks.

It's far too dangerous to let someone with his power to say the things he does without any checks and balances as many people don't watch the news networks that correct them.
You're greatly underestimating the influence of Dorsey, Zuck & the like.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:45 PM   #59028
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He'll be Trump I presume, talk about fraud, fighting it, winning etc.

Once PA finished up their tallies and he sees the margin, I suspect he'll back away from any kind of serious legal challenge.

This presumes of course the counts were straight and fair, which I believe them to be. They were also slow, awful and had no transparency at all, which has to change ASAP.
I'm not so sure the "no transparency" is really a thing or just something Trump and his acolytes like to tout.

I think it will come out that there were more than enough poll watchers from both sides of the aisle and there was no funny business being done.

But because they don't broadcast video of the polls with big arrows pointing out the poll watchers, people assume there is no oversight being done because they can't see that evidence in front of their eyes at the given time.

There's been no reports of actual poll watchers raising concerns, just the reports of random citizens trying to watch the counts and not being allowed to, totally different.
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I don't expect a concession from Trump at any point - even after the counts are done/redone and every box has been checked. The next few months might be interesting.
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Well Trump wasted no time, already claimed fraud with his first sentence. Outrageous even for him.
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Well Trump wasted no time, already claimed fraud with his first sentence. Outrageous even for him.
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I don't expect a concession from Trump at any point - even after the counts are done/redone and every box has been checked. The next few months might be interesting.
Do you think if he loses he will hunker down in his underground bunker and the marines will have to come and extract him out?

That would be sweet. I hope they video it.
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I don’t welcome Biden, but I won’t miss Trump one bit.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:50 PM   #59035
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I missed alot of the beginning of the speech. MSNBC cut off the speech immediately. Had to go to fox news online to see the continuation. Wonder what I missed.
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:51 PM   #59036
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Doing a great job reading this speech
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Old 11-05-2020, 06:51 PM   #59037
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Both parties should distance themselves from their respective extremists but they won’t. The vocal minority has way too much influence.
The influence of that vocal minority has been gained solely because of social media. Their ability to now organize a “protest” or overthrow an entire city block at any is terrifying for people who live where this affects them.
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"Republicans lost zero House races"

Interesting interpretation.
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Do you think if he loses he will hunker down in his underground bunker and the marines will have to come and extract him out?

That would be sweet. I hope they video it.
It won’t come to it. But federal marshals would remove him from the White House.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with them keeping the most powerful person in the world from telling blatant lies on their networks.

It's far too dangerous to let someone with his power to say the things he does without any checks and balances as many people don't watch the news networks that correct them.
Then why was everyone else allowed to do the same? Or only certain lies matter?

This is Trump's MO, nothing new.
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Election interference through propaganda is not even remotely the same thing as votes being rigged.
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He's mostly reading from notes which keeps him on track mostly - but you can tell when he's going off notes.

Nothing too surprising in what he's saying...
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'Amount of litigation....TREMENDOUS amount of litigation! It's TREMENDOUS'
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His words are dangerous.
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Well Trump wasted no time, already claimed fraud with his first sentence. Outrageous even for him.
It can be argued that this indeed is going on at this moment in PA. It will be interesting to see how that shakes out if pressed hard enough. I’m talking of allowing votes to come in after the legislation voted on a sooner deadline. It’s like loosing because you were forced into playing over time even though you had the lead at the end of regulation.
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His words are dangerous.
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Low energy speech.
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It can be argued that this indeed is going on at this moment in PA. It will be interesting to see how that shakes out if pressed hard enough. I’m talking of allowing votes to come in after the legislation voted on a sooner deadline. It’s like loosing because you were forced into playing over time even though you had the lead at the end of regulation.
It is looking possible Biden may overtake Trump in PA without the votes postmarked by election day that are starting to come in.
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This is truly sickening.
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