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View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump 44 53.66%
Joe Biden 38 46.34%
Trump Wins Florida 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Florida 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia 44 53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia 12 14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio 43 52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio 16 19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania 27 32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania 34 41.46%
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:53 AM   #58276
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I don't think so either.

If I blame anyone it's those 2 clowns in congress Pelosi and Mcconnell. They're the real villains here.
I do believe Trump is a problem. And if I thought about it more while in the moment, I might believe it about Obama but all I have is biased hindsight at this point. If we all know that there's a problem, then we should do what we can to not stoke the flames of the problem (we should have someone in office that's going to try to counteract it).

Pelosi and McConnell are systematic relics of a system that could use some change. They both should ride off into the sunset, to put it nicely.
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50k votes left to be counted in Georgia according to CNN. That's going to be right down to the wire there
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If I blame anyone it's those 2 clowns in congress Pelosi and Mcconnell. They're the real villains here.
Omg yes. Triple yes.

That being said, a president has a lot of influence as well.

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Old 11-05-2020, 08:56 AM   #58279
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It's no coincidence that this country started to be come more polarized when the Social Media era began.
Bingo. People began to think only their opinion mattered and was as good as truth.
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:57 AM   #58280
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Term limits for Senators!!! I believe most everyone except the Senators themselves would support this idea lol
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:57 AM   #58281
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Here we are, still in worst case scenario, the voting is simply too close and the results will further divide.

No matter who wins...we're in a bad spot.
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Term limits for Senators!!! I believe most everyone except the Senators themselves would support this idea lol
I've been a big supporter of term limits. Give them 12 years max and then they are out.
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Bingo. People began to think only their opinion mattered and was as good as truth.
DJT is a prime example of this. Never before had a president weaponized social media.

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Mail-in ballots kicking in like edibles.
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DJT is a prime example of this. Never before had a president weaponized social media.

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Only two Presidents would have had a chance. And social media has evolved a tremendous amount over the past six years.
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Here we are, still in worst case scenario, the voting is simply too close and the results will further divide.

No matter who wins...we're in a bad spot.
I agree. We're in a bad spot here.
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It's no coincidence that this country started to be come more polarized when the Social Media era began.
Did social media cause it, or merely expose it?

There have always been plenty of nutjobs out there. Could it just be easier to see them now?

Could a perceived increase in polarization be due to people actually communicating with each other more than before?

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I’m very curious as to how many Biden supporters consider him a strong candidate. I see a lot of “because he’s not Trump”, but very minimal actual enthusiasm for Biden himself.
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Mail-in ballots kicking in like edibles.
"I don't feel anything, I want more"

Then...

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Oh, I don't disagree that the country is a mess. I just don't believe that it's the fault of the person in the White House. Things really began to split under Obama, but I don't put that on him. I put it on a social media generation that doesn't have any accountability.
It’s easy to blame the social media generation but a large part of the accountability stems from parents not holding their kids accountable. You can’t place full blame on the social media generation, without placing some blame on the parents of this generation
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Old 11-05-2020, 09:04 AM   #58292
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Did social media cause it, or merely expose it?

There have always been plenty of nutjobs out there. Could it just be easier to see them now?

Could a perceived increase in polarization be due to people actually communicating with each other more than before?

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Easier for them to connect and work together to cause problems. Before it was a few here or there, now you can get a mob in half an hour.
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The popular vote is 3.5 million in favor of Biden. The Electoral College is what makes it "too close to call", but Americans have spoken in terms of popular vote on who they would rather have in office.
Take California out of the mix and popular vote across the other 49 states was a dead heat.
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Only two Presidents would have had a chance. And social media has evolved a tremendous amount over the past six years.
Yep. It will be interesting to see the effects moving forward.

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I honestly like your optimism (even though I don't think it's 100% true based on some of your past statements, none of which I have off the top of my head but that's the picture I have of your beliefs - not trying to be confrontational, just being truthful) but again, nothing will change unless something changes.
I get that, but I'm being serious. Half the stuff that any of us posts is hyperbolic in nature because we're anonymous. Like others have said, if we could observe each other in our daily non-message board lives, we would see a lot of common ground.
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A small batch of votes (about 3,000) just reported in Georgia, broke Trump's way. We're at the point now where if the SOS in GA is telling the truth, Trump wins.

Stands Trump +18,000 votes and we're told less than 22,000 votes left to count.
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My belief is social media was not the cause but it offered an outlet for people to post anything, say anything with zero repercussions.

People say things, like things and the algorithms of social media provide you with "like" feeds and poof - here we are.
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Take California out of the mix and popular vote across the rest was dead heat.
You can’t just take out a whole state so it fits your narrative, the people are there. Their vote matters just as much as anyone else’s.
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Yep. It will be interesting to see the effects moving forward.

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Did social media cause it, or merely expose it?

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There's certainly some truth to this. But I continue to go back to the "not afraid of getting punched in the mouth" rebuttal. There are plenty of people who talk a whole lot of sh!t on social media who wouldn't say those things in person because they'd get popped. The fear of consequence is the missing link.
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