2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I assure you when covid goes away (and it will at some point) I will not be wearing a mask.

Selfish.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Good Lord lol. Do you have any aluminum foil left after making your hats? Your posts have gotten more and more entertaining! This should get even more entertaining if Trump pulls off a victory.

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Yeah, I stocked up big time. You all were grabbing up TP, but I've had that stashed for years, haha. I've got enough tin foil to get through 2035.

You can refute my point of view, but the history is irrefutable.

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Well...yeah.

Excellent rebuttal, btw.

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'Uncontested leader' in America. Can it happen? Will it happen?

If so.. with the way the political system is in this country.. how?

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Astros19

That's really strange to me. I've been in Walmarts, Targets, Menards, Home Depots and plenty of grocery stores here in Des Moines and I think I've seen one elderly gentleman without a mask, and that was just a day ago. Guessing he has a medical condition.
Masks are pretty much mandatory and enforced with door greeters here.
Although I don't think many people have been forced and just do it on their own.
Honestly, I'm having a difficult time believing your Walmart scenario. It just seems pretty hard to believe compared to my neck of the woods

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No reason to lie bud...its true. Im in Trumpland...Mohave County right now. In Phoenix its required everywhere still and people are wearing masks. Not in MC for sure...I have been in over 6 states since early October. New Mexico seems to be the only state “enforcing” the requirement. People were getting kicked out of stores L\R and there are security guards handing out masks. If you refuse...you get booted.
In AZ MC...Trumpers are intimidating and looking for fights. Plain & simple...

[rman112]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Yeah, I stocked up big time. You all were grabbing up TP, but I've had that stashed for years, haha. I've got enough tin foil to get through 2035.

You can refute my point of view, but the history is irrefutable.

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In America?

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by majestik101

That's not science. But nice try.

https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/...vidupdate.html

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Or a pretty wild imagination.
The "Trump wants to be a dictator" argument just seems so bizarre to me.

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Especially when it's the other side that want to take away guns, mandate masks, increase and extend the lockdowns, control what you can say, allow rioters to control city blocks, pack the Supreme Court to get their way, add states to increase senators, eliminate the electoral college, defund police, open borders for anyone to come in, etc.

Yet Trump is "literally Hitler"?

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Guess we were all selfish pre 2020 then.

Originally Posted by majestik101

Please, show me the science that supports this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7191114/

Originally Posted by rman112

I think you have too much time on your hands.

If you consolidated your 3500+ one-liner posts, you too could share more interesting and insightful posts in the thread.

That said, you look like a rocket scientist compared to these two.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

If you consolidated your 3500+ one-liner posts, you too could share more interesting and insightful posts in the thread.

I had that reply to that specific post for a reason.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by rman112

'Uncontested leader' in America. Can it happen? Will it happen?



If so.. with the way the political system is in this country.. how?

This is probably what many people in those countries said.

I don't think it will happen, haha. Trump is too old and he is only doing this out of narcism. But it's hard to deny that the beginning steps of the Dictator's Playbook are currently happening. Fortunately, we have enough voters to put him down like the rabid dog he is.

Nov 4 is going to be a great day for American patriots and a sad day for Trumpers.

Merica!

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

No reason to lie bud...its true. Im in Trumpland...Mohave County right now. In Phoenix its required everywhere still and people are wearing masks. Not in MC for sure...I have been in over 6 states since early October. New Mexico seems to be the only state “enforcing” the requirement. People were getting kicked out of stores L\R and there are security guards handing out masks. If you refuse...you get booted.

In AZ MC...Trumpers are intimidating and looking for fights. Plain & simple...

If this was as big an issue as you claim I would believe the media would be all over any kind of story regarding intimidating Trump supporters refusing masks.
Had a guy canvassing the neighborhood 2 days ago asking who people planned on voting for. After I told him who I was voting for I ask him what kind of reactions he was seeing. He told me Trump by far, so I think it's fair to say I'm in a Trump area as well.
I just think some on the left are inflating the number of people refusing to where masks where it's mandated.

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

This is probably what many people in those countries said.

I don't think it will happen, haha. Trump is too old and he is only doing this out of narcism. But it's hard to deny that the beginning steps of the Dictator's Playbook are currently happening. Fortunately, we have enough voters to put him down like the rabid dog he is.

Nov 4 is going to be a great day for American patriots and a sad day for Trumpers.

Merica!

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The political system in this country doesn't allow it.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

This is probably what many people in those countries said.

I don't think it will happen, haha. Trump is too old and he is only doing this out of narcism. But it's hard to deny that the beginning steps of the Dictator's Playbook are currently happening. Fortunately, we have enough voters to put him down like the rabid dog he is.

Nov 4 is going to be a great day for American patriots and a sad day for Trumpers.

Merica!

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I think the real show will be Trump's reaction if he loses. He's going to do everything but hand count votes, himself, to get it reversed.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Astros19

If this was as big an issue as you claim I would believe the media would be all over any kind of story regarding intimidating Trump supporters refusing masks.
Had a guy canvassing the neighborhood 2 days ago asking who people planned on voting for. After I told him who I was voting for I ask him what kind of reactions he was seeing. He told me Trump by far, so I think it's fair to say I'm in a Trump area as well.
I just think some on the left are inflating the number of people refusing to where masks where it's mandated.

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I can agree with this...I also have a house in Fort Smith, AR. I was there from July to October...The Trumpers there are not intimidating and being very unselfish...here in AZ...not a chance. It’s apples/oranges.
But to think that MC media is going to call this out...that’s funny AF!!

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

Especially when it's the other side that want to take away guns, mandate masks, increase and extend the lockdowns, control what you can say, allow rioters to control city blocks, pack the Supreme Court to get their way, add states to increase senators, eliminate the electoral college, defund police, open borders for anyone to come in, etc.



Yet Trump is "literally Hitler"?

Who wants to take away guns, increase lockdowns, control what you say, allow rioters to control anything, pack the SCOTUS, eliminate the EC, defund police, and allow anyone to cross our borders?

WTH have you been reading? That's some tin foil hat stuff right there.

It's going to be okay. Contrary to what Trump has said, Joe Biden is not "against God", nor will your suburbs be "totally destroyed" under his administration. Nobody is coming for your guns. Relax.

It's okay to be informed. I know Herr Trump is controlling your information, but there's a whole world out there and it isn't out to get you.

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Who wants to take away guns, increase lockdowns, control what you say, allow rioters to control anything, pack the SCOTUS, eliminate the EC, defund police, and allow anyone to cross our borders?

WTH have you been reading? That's some tin foil hat stuff right there.

It's going to be okay. Contrary to what Trump has said, Joe Biden is not "against God", nor will your suburbs be "totally destroyed" under his administration. Nobody is coming for your guns. Relax.

It's okay to be informed. I know Herr Trump is controlling your information, but there's a whole world out there and it isn't out to get you.

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Tell me how Trump could implement a dictatorship ('uncontested leader') if he wins.

[Ianhatcher]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

Especially when it's the other side that want to take away guns, mandate masks, increase and extend the lockdowns, control what you can say, allow rioters to control city blocks, pack the Supreme Court to get their way, add states to increase senators, eliminate the electoral college, defund police, open borders for anyone to come in, etc.

Yet Trump is "literally Hitler"?

Exactly. It boggles my mind when people think Trump is a totalitarian in any way shape or form and should be compared to Hitler, Mao and Stalin who collectively killed over 130 million people mostly their countrymen.

Cleary Trump is waiting for a second term to tear down the 2nd amendment, take all our guns and then expect his 3 Conservative Constitutionalist judges he put in place to back him....

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

Exactly. It boggles my mind when people think Trump is a totalitarian in any way shape or form and should be compared to Hitler, Mao and Stalin who collectively killed over 130 million people mostly their countrymen.

Cleary Trump is waiting for a second term to tear down the 2nd amendment, take all our guns and then expect his 3 Conservative Constitutionalist judges he put in place to back him....

But it could happen..

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Yeah, I stocked up big time. You all were grabbing up TP, but I've had that stashed for years, haha. I've got enough tin foil to get through 2035.

You can refute my point of view, but the history is irrefutable.

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You better start stocking up on necessary goods and find a bunker! I hear Trump is planning to send never trumpers to concentration camps. Liberals are going to be hung in public or burned at the stake. And he is planning to do genetic experimentation on immigrants. CNN confirmed these reports today. We all thought Hitler was bad. You just wait if Trump wins 1930s germany will look like a tropical vacation!

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[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

You better start stocking up on necessary goods and find a bunker! I hear Trump is planning to send never trumpers to concentration camps. Liberals are going to be hung in public or burned at the stake. And he is planning to do genetic experimentation on immigrants. CNN confirmed these reports today. We all thought Hitler was bad. You just wait if Trump wins 1930s germany will look like a tropical vacation!

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Pretty funny...sarcasm at it’s finest right here..

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by rman112

Tell me how Trump could implement a dictatorship ('uncontested leader') if he wins.

I already posited it. Try to keep up, as I dislike repeating myself.

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[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Who wants to take away guns, increase lockdowns, control what you say, allow rioters to control anything, pack the SCOTUS, eliminate the EC, defund police, and allow anyone to cross our borders?

WTH have you been reading? That's some tin foil hat stuff right there.

It's going to be okay. Contrary to what Trump has said, Joe Biden is not "against God", nor will your suburbs be "totally destroyed" under his administration. Nobody is coming for your guns. Relax.

It's okay to be informed. I know Herr Trump is controlling your information, but there's a whole world out there and it isn't out to get you.

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You are getting more delusional every day. Maybe its time to take a break from this forum for your own sanity. It's clearly taking a toll on you.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

You are getting more delusional every day. Maybe its time to take a break from this forum for your own sanity. It's clearly taking a toll on you.

Excellent rebuttal.

Is that the 21st century version of "I know you are, but what am I"?

I get it, if you don't say anything, it can't be refuted. Well done.

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

I already posited it. Try to keep up, as I dislike repeating myself.

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Let's say someone wanted to take over a nation, to install themselves as an uncontested leader. It's been done many times throughout history. One way has been to simply destroy that country's military and proclaim oneself king. That's been done many times historically.

Another way is to take control from within. Maduro and Chavez did it in Venezuela. Pol Pot in Cambodia. Mao Tse Tung, Mussolini, Stalin, all rose from within a nation to seize power.

How did they do it? Well, there are some common themes. Some of the first steps these men took were:

1) Control of information. Installing oneself as the One Source of Truth.

2) Suppressing votes, controlling elections

3) Discrediting political rivals, sometimes even arresting or killing them

4) Taking control of the judiciary

These things allowed those men to change the rules to retain power, as Putin did in Russia. These are the first steps in the playbook for these types of tyrants.

Trump has done or tried to do all of these. Everyone but him is lying, he says. Doctors, scientists, politicians, all are liars. The GOP isn't even trying to hide voter suppression tactics anymore and gerrymandering is running rampant, allowing his party to retain power in the face of waning public support. He and his cronies call every political rival a criminal and chant "Lock Him Up" daily. And Trump brags about seizing the judiciary, appointing hundreds of federal judges and turning SCOTUS to the right.

The next steps in the playbook include consolidation. Purges of opposition of all types, from unfriendly media to dissenting views put forth by anyone of any profession are common among these leaders. Installation of trusted family members and other loyal cronies follows. At this point, loyalty is more important than any other qualification. And as before, controlling the media and flow of information are crucial.

Never before has our nation seen a president like Donald J. Trump. His constant fear mongering has allowed him to install himself among the faithful as the savior, the defender, the solution.

We've seen all this before, and it hasn't worked out so well.

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Here's the post. Tell me how this happens within the American political system. Not Venezuela. Not Cambodia. Not Russia, etc. The American political system.

Is it possible to do? Yes or no?

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

You better start stocking up on necessary goods and find a bunker! I hear Trump is planning to send never trumpers to concentration camps. Liberals are going to be hung in public or burned at the stake. And he is planning to do genetic experimentation on immigrants. CNN confirmed these reports today. We all thought Hitler was bad. You just wait if Trump wins 1930s germany will look like a tropical vacation!

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Trump is not going to win.

Moreover, I backed neither of the horses in this race. I see an abominable administration no matter which way things turn out.

Worst case scenario, the ocean is like a half mile away and I own a boat. No worries.

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