Shipping Breaks from Canada

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 10:50 AM

Hey guys,
I wanted to start doing some breaks on either facebook or Instagram however since I am in Canada the shipping costs with tracking is crazy.
Any ideas on how I can limit the shipping costs or is it ok to ship a bubble mailer with no tracking for a break
Thanks

Boredlawyer · 10-27-2020, 10:51 AM

No tracking? Let us know how that goes.

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 10:55 AM

This would be my first break so are you saying most customers will only buy in with tracking

htn315 · 10-27-2020, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

This would be my first break so are you saying most customers will only buy in with tracking

The tracking is for your protecting, if you don't ship with tracking buyer can open item not received case and you automatically lose. So I wouldn't recommend going that route with higher end breaks. If you're breaking lower end boxes it might be worth the risk to not ship with tracking because you won't find people willing to join your breaks if you're charging $10-20 per spot for shipping.

craigmacg · 10-27-2020, 11:10 AM

I think you're biggest concern would be people saying package not recieved and filing charge backs.

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 11:12 AM

Can’t they only claim that on eBay. Won’t it be fine on Facebook or instagram

glen87 · 10-27-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

Can’t they only claim that on eBay. Won’t it be fine on Facebook or instagram

what kind of payments are you taking?

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by glen87

what kind of payments are you taking?

Was planning on going through PayPal

glen87 · 10-27-2020, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

Was planning on going through PayPal

PP chargebacks

discodanman45 · 10-27-2020, 11:25 AM

The answer is to pay the high postage for tracking or be prepared for headaches. Buyers have protection on paypal. With long shipping times, especially across borders, people won't get their cards for a long time. Then they will open claims against you. They might win and then receive the cards for free down the line. Plus have you written language in your breaks to protect yourself? What happens if someone gets a $10,000 card in the break and doesn't get it. Insurance may not cover the full amount. How will you deal with that? By being a breaker you own a business. Do you have a LLC? If not people can sue you and not your breaking company. I know it isn't likely, but you really need to think things that before starting a business.

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

The answer is to pay the high postage for tracking or be prepared for headaches. Buyers have protection on paypal. With long shipping times, especially across borders, people won't get their cards for a long time. Then they will open claims against you. They might win and then receive the cards for free down the line. Plus have you written language in your breaks to protect yourself? What happens if someone gets a $10,000 card in the break and doesn't get it. Insurance may not cover the full amount. How will you deal with that? By being a breaker you own a business. Do you have a LLC? If not people can sue you and not your breaking company. I know it isn't likely, but you really need to think things that before starting a business.

Ok that helps a lot I definitely need to figure these things out. Do you know of any way to ship cheaper though because at first I'm probably going to be sticking to lower-end product and at that point the shipping could be almost the same price as the spot.

mnvikingstwins · 10-27-2020, 11:42 AM

That's just not worth doing out of Canada, you can't compete with people already doing it in US for cheaper

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

That's just not worth doing out of Canada, you can't compete with people already doing it in US for cheaper

I don't know if you can answer this but do you know of anyway I can just Canadians to enter the break so the shipping costs aren't as high

mnvikingstwins · 10-27-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

I don't know if you can answer this but do you know of anyway I can just Canadians to enter the break so the shipping costs aren't as high

Post them in French

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 11:52 AM

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Post them in French

Haha I don't even know French

Chicharito · 10-27-2020, 11:59 AM

Can confirm shipping with tracking within Canada is at least $12 CAD.

Imagine what kind of a break buyers will be willing to pay $12 shipping.

discodanman45 · 10-27-2020, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

Ok that helps a lot I definitely need to figure these things out. Do you know of any way to ship cheaper though because at first I'm probably going to be sticking to lower-end product and at that point the shipping could be almost the same price as the spot.

If you are doing lower end product and shipping, you will lose money. Big breakers from Canada are high end products and usually connected to baseball card shops. With big accounts and large shipping quantities, they get discounts on all their shipping. The Canadian breakers I see ship worldwide. The reason they do this is they can hit international markets which most US breakers hate to ship to. It also isn't that more expensive to ship worldwide than to the US.

If you want to make money the simple answer is you won't. The people that make money off this in Canada get product for cheaper, have discounted shipping, and have a reputation that people trust. Even in the US it would be tough. A lot of breakers also use their large youtube and social media presence to make money as well. So even if they break even on the break, they make money off the youtube views. If you want to have fun and lose money, go ahead! But this is not a way to make money in your situation.

IHaveHisCard · 10-27-2020, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by primetimesports

I don't know if you can answer this but do you know of anyway I can just Canadians to enter the break so the shipping costs aren't as high

Offer a side of Poutine with every break.

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

If you are doing lower end product and shipping, you will lose money. Big breakers from Canada are high end products and usually connected to baseball card shops. With big accounts and large shipping quantities, they get discounts on all their shipping. The Canadian breakers I see ship worldwide. The reason they do this is they can hit international markets which most US breakers hate to ship to. It also isn't that more expensive to ship worldwide than to the US.

If you want to make money the simple answer is you won't. The people that make money off this in Canada get product for cheaper, have discounted shipping, and have a reputation that people trust. Even in the US it would be tough. A lot of breakers also use their large youtube and social media presence to make money as well. So even if they break even on the break, they make money off the youtube views. If you want to have fun and lose money, go ahead! But this is not a way to make money in your situation.

Yeah, I kinda thought that may be the case. My last option would be to drive to the US and ship from there as I live right on the boarder.

discodanman45 · 10-27-2020, 12:28 PM

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Yeah, I kinda thought that may be the case. My last option would be to drive to the US and ship from there as I live right on the boarder.

Do you understand how customs works? They won't allow this. You might be able to sneak cards across the border, but if you package them up in sealed envelopes that is a big no no.

hxcmilkshake · 10-27-2020, 12:31 PM

Dood I'll meet you at the border. My muling charge is 25%

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primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

Do you understand how customs works? They won't allow this. You might be able to sneak cards across the border, but if you package them up in sealed envelopes that is a big no no.

No, no I mean I have family over there and could possibly open the cards over there as I'm over with them often

discodanman45 · 10-27-2020, 12:50 PM

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No, no I mean I have family over there and could possibly open the cards over there as I'm over with them often

Is this for money money or just for fun? This seems like a horrible way to make money. Buy product, drive across border, open it there, ship out US orders there with envelopes that you keep in supply at your families house, and then bringing across product back to ship from Canada. Is this worth a few dollars???

Plus think about this. You are operating a business in Canada and shipping from the US. How will you declare US shipping costs on your taxes? You are now an international company

This is not a good idea.

ZappBrannigan · 10-27-2020, 01:07 PM

Make them pay if they want the cards for tracking 12-17$

Take a look at what they charge to ship a single crappy card across the border.

Crybabies.

primetimesports · 10-27-2020, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

Is this for money money or just for fun? This seems like a horrible way to make money. Buy product, drive across border, open it there, ship out US orders there with envelopes that you keep in supply at your families house, and then bringing across product back to ship from Canada. Is this worth a few dollars???

Plus think about this. You are operating a business in Canada and shipping from the US. How will you declare US shipping costs on your taxes? You are now an international company

This is not a good idea.

Well I love opening cards but of course I want to make a profit so I guess it's just not possible for me to do

10-27-2020, 10:50 AM	#1
primetimesports Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 11 primetimesportscollectibles	Shipping Breaks from Canada Hey guys, I wanted to start doing some breaks on either facebook or Instagram however since I am in Canada the shipping costs with tracking is crazy. Any ideas on how I can limit the shipping costs or is it ok to ship a bubble mailer with no tracking for a break Thanks

10-27-2020, 11:10 AM	#5
craigmacg Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,931 firemanmacg	I think you're biggest concern would be people saying package not recieved and filing charge backs. __________________ Out of darkness cometh light

10-27-2020, 11:25 AM	#10
discodanman45 Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: CA Posts: 9,890 danch27	The answer is to pay the high postage for tracking or be prepared for headaches. Buyers have protection on paypal. With long shipping times, especially across borders, people won't get their cards for a long time. Then they will open claims against you. They might win and then receive the cards for free down the line. Plus have you written language in your breaks to protect yourself? What happens if someone gets a $10,000 card in the break and doesn't get it. Insurance may not cover the full amount. How will you deal with that? By being a breaker you own a business. Do you have a LLC? If not people can sue you and not your breaking company. I know it isn't likely, but you really need to think things that before starting a business. __________________ Always looking for rarer Rik Smits cards and cards from the 2014-15 Spectra Global Icons set. Send me a message!

10-27-2020, 10:51 AM	#2
Boredlawyer Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,228	No tracking? Let us know how that goes.

10-27-2020, 10:55 AM	#3
primetimesports Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 11 primetimesportscollectibles	This would be my first break so are you saying most customers will only buy in with tracking

10-27-2020, 11:12 AM	#6
primetimesports Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 11 primetimesportscollectibles	Can’t they only claim that on eBay. Won’t it be fine on Facebook or instagram

10-27-2020, 11:42 AM	#12
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,204 ski_4 ski_4	That's just not worth doing out of Canada, you can't compete with people already doing it in US for cheaper

10-27-2020, 11:59 AM	#16
Chicharito Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: We The North Posts: 1,200 Chicharito	Can confirm shipping with tracking within Canada is at least $12 CAD. Imagine what kind of a break buyers will be willing to pay $12 shipping.

10-27-2020, 12:31 PM	#21
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,557 hxcmilkshake	Dood I'll meet you at the border. My muling charge is 25% Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

10-27-2020, 01:07 PM	#24
ZappBrannigan Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Biafra Posts: 2,405	Make them pay if they want the cards for tracking 12-17$ Take a look at what they charge to ship a single crappy card across the border. Crybabies.