2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2115

Boo · 10-25-2020, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Neither the UAE nor Bahrain is or ever has been at war with Israel, so the documents are not peace treaties in the formal sense. But until now, both Persian Gulf states had officially considered Israel to be illegitimate.
Arab states in the Persian Gulf have edged closer to Israel over the past decade, some with extensive but largely unpublicized ties, in response to a shared desire to blunt Iranian influence in the region

Glad Obama could bring them together, wait...

NeedChapmans · 10-25-2020, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Neither the UAE nor Bahrain is or ever has been at war with Israel, so the documents are not peace treaties in the formal sense. But until now, both Persian Gulf states had officially considered Israel to be illegitimate.
Arab states in the Persian Gulf have edged closer to Israel over the past decade, some with extensive but largely unpublicized ties, in response to a shared desire to blunt Iranian influence in the region

Now do Sudan!

Astros19 · 10-25-2020, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Neither the UAE nor Bahrain is or ever has been at war with Israel, so the documents are not peace treaties in the formal sense. But until now, both Persian Gulf states had officially considered Israel to be illegitimate.
Arab states in the Persian Gulf have edged closer to Israel over the past decade, some with extensive but largely unpublicized ties, in response to a shared desire to blunt Iranian influence in the region

But why didn't it happen with our last president?
I get the feeling every time Trump accomplishes something it truly pisses you off.

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NeedChapmans · 10-25-2020, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

Put FDR in today's world and political climate and see how much he gets done.
It's an apples to oranges comparison.

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FDR would have rounded up all the Chinese after the Wuhan virus... I bet the left would have been cheering that one on.

Astros19 · 10-25-2020, 05:42 PM

4 year temper tantrum.

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oldgoldy97 · 10-25-2020, 05:43 PM

Headline readers

mike1498 · 10-25-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

FDR would have rounded up all the Chinese after the Wuhan virus... I bet the left would have been cheering that one on.

I forgot about the interment camps. I knew when he was making FDR references that I was missing something.

Jopeal · 10-25-2020, 05:44 PM

The U.S population was like 2.5 million in 1776.

This somehow pertains to multiple disagreements being hashed out in this thread today.

oldgoldy97 · 10-25-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Glad Obama could bring them together, wait...

The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people"

Derp. Great take Boonut.

Trump’s campaign promises: Mexican wall and brining two minor, non-threatening countries to recognize Israel.

Mission complete....well, sort of.

rman112 · 10-25-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

You guys are right, I guess.

Our president is useless. He doesn't even have the authority to do anything about Covid. Thinking a president should lead us through a crisis is ridiculous. He should just go back to playing golf or something. He quite obviously has no responsibility or author to do anything at all concerning Covid.

I understand now.

So tell me, why does this election matter again?

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A buzzword like 'leading' loses it's oomph when you acknowledge a President's limits.

Boo · 10-25-2020, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to United States President Barack Obama for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people"

Derp. Great take Boonut.

So he brought together the countries YOU brought up?

Unhinged to the nth degree

Boo · 10-25-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

4 year temper tantrum.

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It must suck to wake up with that much hate and lack of education

oldgoldy97 · 10-25-2020, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

So he brought together the countries YOU brought up?

Unhinged to the nth degree

Yes, I brought them up

Read the whole thread besides my posts which you said aren’t of any interest anyway.

oldgoldy97 · 10-25-2020, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

It must suck to wake up with that much hate and lack of education

Period.

Boom.

Roasted.

Boo · 10-25-2020, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

Anyone care to guess how many more countries will sign peace deals with Israel?
Just saying.

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Neither the UAE nor Bahrain is or ever has been at war with Israel, so the documents are not peace treaties in the formal sense. But until now, both Persian Gulf states had officially considered Israel to be illegitimate.
Arab states in the Persian Gulf have edged closer to Israel over the past decade, some with extensive but largely unpublicized ties, in response to a shared desire to blunt Iranian influence in the region

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Yes, I brought them up

Read the whole thread besides my posts which you said aren’t of any interest anyway.

Unhinging continues. Cnewby was right...for once.

oldgoldy97 · 10-25-2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Unhinging continues. Cnewby was right...for once.

Dot one: guy brings up “peace treaty”
Dot two: I post snip that it’s not really much of a peace treaty
Dot three: Boonut can’t connect dots (then calls someone uneducated while using incorrect grammar in doing so)

The closest you’ll be to a Rhodes scholar is finding a discarded GED diploma on the Jersey turnpike.

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

I forgot about the interment camps. I knew when he was making FDR references that I was missing something.

I think you're one of the more intelligent people here. I also think that you're blinded by love of Trump or something, I'm not sure what. You're capable of diplomatic conversation for sure.

I think that if you were president, and you got all this "can't do x" crap out of your mind, you'd be able to do better than Trump. I believe that 100%. I think you'd be able to find a way to bring people to the conclusion that facing this together is better than not.

That attitude was present early on. States sent help to NY when they were getting hit hard. Trump sent a hospital ship. And NY promised to repay the favor when needed. We were on track to face this pandemic as one nation.

I think you could've kept that going. I know nobody could've forced anyone to do exactly as they were told, but you could've convinced them that coming together was for the benefit of everyone.

You could've.

Many people could've.

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rman112 · 10-25-2020, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

I think you're one of the more intelligent people here. I also think that you're blinded by love of Trump or something, I'm not sure what. You're capable of diplomatic conversation for sure.

I think that if you were president, and you got all this "can't do x" crap out of your mind, you'd be able to do better than Trump. I believe that 100%. I think you'd be able to find a way to bring people to the conclusion that facing this together is better than not.

That attitude was present early on. States sent help to NY when they were getting hit hard. Trump sent a hospital ship. And NY promised to repay the favor when needed. We were on track to face this pandemic as one nation.

I think you could've kept that going. I know nobody could've forced anyone to do exactly as they were told, but you could've convinced them that coming together was for the benefit of everyone.

You could've.

Many people could've.

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The ship was a joke. Look how many people actually got treated.

NeedChapmans · 10-25-2020, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

I think that if you were president, and you got all this "can't do x" crap out of your mind, you'd be able to do better than Trump. I believe that 100%. I think you'd be able to find a way to bring people to the conclusion that facing this together is better than not.

That attitude was present early on.

What a great idea that was. Cuomo asking for hospital ships, building hospitals out of convention centers.

Smart. Came nowhere near needing them but at least he spent his time wisely and wrote a book about how well he did, while he killed tens of thousands unnecessarily.

There my friends, is a man with a plan.

rman112 · 10-25-2020, 06:14 PM

Also, it's fine to have a can do and positive attitude. But hard limits are hard limits.

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

What a great idea that was. Cuomo asking for hospital ships, building hospitals out of convention centers.

Smart. Came nowhere near needing them but at least he spent his time wisely and wrote a book about how well he did, while he killed tens of thousands unnecessarily.

There my friends, is a man with a plan.

There is so much hate in you, my friend. I hope you find peace someday.

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mike1498 · 10-25-2020, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

I think you're one of the more intelligent people here. I also think that you're blinded by love of Trump or something, I'm not sure what. You're capable of diplomatic conversation for sure.

I think that if you were president, and you got all this "can't do x" crap out of your mind, you'd be able to do better than Trump. I believe that 100%. I think you'd be able to find a way to bring people to the conclusion that facing this together is better than not.

That attitude was present early on. States sent help to NY when they were getting hit hard. Trump sent a hospital ship. And NY promised to repay the favor when needed. We were on track to face this pandemic as one nation.

I think you could've kept that going. I know nobody could've forced anyone to do exactly as they were told, but you could've convinced them that coming together was for the benefit of everyone.

You could've.

Many people could've.

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If it makes you sleep better at night my write in was for John Kasich. I know I have a 0% chance of him winning but I couldn't vote for Trump.

Now that we solved that inaccuracy, just because I don't like Trump doesn't mean I have to be blind to reality. If you can't see the dems are being more resistant than ever, I don't know what to tell you. Some of it is warranted, some of it is down right stupid.

If I didn't make it apparent before, I don't care what party you say you are, if you make a illogical statement, I'll refute it.

You named three people who were better men then Trump. One created interment camps, one owned slaves and believed in state individuality (which is completely different than your view for COVID) and one seemed to have a lot of affairs. Ironically half those qualities are shared between Trump.

Now, we can be an angry liberal and complain about everything wrong Trump does, OR we could realize he has done some things right. Not enough for my vote but I'm not going to sit here and make statements that are false.

Trump doesn't want to work with the left, the left doesn't want to work with him. Wake up.

NeedChapmans · 10-25-2020, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

There is so much hate in you, my friend. I hope you find peace someday.

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LOL. You're not my friend and I'm certainly not looking for peace.

And Cuomo is a killer.

rman112 · 10-25-2020, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

There is so much hate in you, my friend. I hope you find peace someday.

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He didn't say anything false.

JustRachel · 10-25-2020, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Also, it's fine to have a can do and positive attitude. But hard limits are hard limits.

Maybe so.

I'm reminded of a JFK speech about getting to the moon by the end of the century. Everyone said it couldn't be done. Hard limits.

"We choose to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

Great speech. One of the best in history.

Moon landing, 1969.

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