2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 2002

arek · 10-16-2020, 10:50 PM

The majority of cases have been imported by passengers flying into the country. Local transmission was curbed by 3 months of restrictions on public gatherings.

Everything is open now, but we need a contact tracing app that you use to sign in and out of businesses and public premises. If you don't have the app, you have to write your details into a form before entering.

The requirements were a bit annoying, but everything is open now, so it seems worthwhile.

ucLAkers · 10-16-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DegaBama

2 more weeks, right? I live in Alabama, the world of no mask wearing, I haven't seen this play out at all.

Yes there is I was just there....every walmart, Lowes, Target, basically everywhere I was had a mask mandate and everyone seemed to be caring. Lady told me its effective until after the election?

Now...go to Texas and AZ and things are much different. Nobody really cares in those states except a small fraction in Austin & Houston. But AZ is hands down the one state that truly DGAF!

gergs1134 · 10-16-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

Herd immunity is possible - however that is a generational thing (before vaccines). Herd immunity is not a 5-10 month thing.

As for Covid - yes, it is mutating slowly - however, so far there are 6 known strains (or mutations) - these may not impact the host adversely - but they are there and every mutation has a chance to mutate differently than other strain.
We take a flu shot exactly due to this - and the flu shot is immunity against the previous years flu - as the flu mutates as it spreads around the world.

I just need to correct your info regarding the flu shot. It is actually essentially a best guess by several agencies throughout the world as to which strains of influenza are going to be more prevalent in the upcoming flu season. Generally there are 3 to 4 identified that are included. There really isn't a "this years flu", there are always multiple strains present throughout the world. So the shot is not "an immunity" against the previous years flu. It may be included in the shot, but only if deemed to be one of the more prevalent. It is more a hope that they picked the right strains so it has a lessened effect on the world as a whole.

gergs1134 · 10-16-2020, 11:35 PM

I'm not sure who made the statement many pages ago, but I am truly undecided at this point still. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that out of 330M people in this country these two are our choices.

I could choose to vote 3rd party but feel as though that would be throwing my vote away as the winner will be one or the other. So what is the better of 2 evils so to say?

anusinha · 10-16-2020, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros19

Everybody whining but like the experts, have no solutions.

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Just like Dr. Fauchi and his favorite drug. Turns out Remdesivir does nothing.

NeedChapmans · 10-16-2020, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gergs1134

I'm not sure who made the statement many pages ago, but I am truly undecided at this point still. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that out of 330M people in this country these two are our choices.

I could choose to vote 3rd party but feel as though that would be throwing my vote away as the winner will be one or the other. So what is the better of 2 evils so to say?

Simple way to decide.

What single issue is most important to you and which President do you believe will be better in impacting that issue in a positive way. No need to overthink it; try to imagine the most impact your vote can have.

NeedChapmans · 10-16-2020, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Just like Dr. Fauchi and his favorite drug. Turns out Remdesivir does nothing.

Serious question; has "science" come around to any drug being effective for the population as a whole?

(I'm not aware of one).

NeedChapmans · 10-17-2020, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Biden -190
Trump +165

Considering the polls, it's crazy how low the Biden chances are in Las Vegas.

Biden -185
Trump +160

jdandns · 10-17-2020, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by quackhead

Wonder if they will sell more of these than the Dr. Fauci card:

Print run on these was down about 10% from the equivalent trio of cards made for the Trump/Biden debate.
PenceFly was 5k+, Kamala solo was 3k+ and the duo card was 2k+.

I bought one set of 3.
Not expecting to get rich, but I do think the solo cards will have some nice value.

All told, the single Fauci sold 2X more copies than all 6 of the debate cards combined.

rman112 · 10-17-2020, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Biden -185
Trump +160

Explain this? Anything outside of football spreads betting wise is like reading Chinese to me.

jdandns · 10-17-2020, 12:46 AM

I'm pretty sure it means you'd have to bet $185 on Biden to win $100 (plus you get the $185 back) if Joe won.
The bigger the "minus" over 100, the more that outcome is favored by oddsmakers.

For Trump, if you bet $100 on him, you get $160 (plus your $100 back) if the President won.
The bigger the "plus" is over 100, the more of an underdog that outcome is in the eyes of the oddsmakers.

The two sets of numbers NC posted means the race has tightened slightly.

quackhead · 10-17-2020, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

Print run on these was down about 10% from the equivalent trio of cards made for the Trump/Biden debate.
PenceFly was 5k+, Kamala solo was 3k+ and the duo card was 2k+.

I bought one set of 3.
Not expecting to get rich, but I do think the solo cards will have some nice value.

All told, the single Fauci sold 2X more copies than all 6 of the debate cards combined.

If these were "paralleled", I think they would have beat Fauci easily.

quackhead · 10-17-2020, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Biden -185
Trump +160

Free money??

anusinha · 10-17-2020, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Serious question; has "science" come around to any drug being effective for the population as a whole?

(I'm not aware of one).

Dexamethasone, a steroid, is pretty much the only thing that has been proven to actually help in a clinical trial. Good thing is that it is cheap and easily accessible, does have some side effects with long term use.

rman112 · 10-17-2020, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jdandns

I'm pretty sure it means you'd have to bet $185 on Biden to win $100 (plus you get the $185 back) if Joe won.
The bigger the "minus" over 100, the more that outcome is favored by oddsmakers.

For Trump, if you bet $100 on him, you get $160 (plus your $100 back) if the President won.
The bigger the "plus" is over 100, the more of an underdog that outcome is in the eyes of the oddsmakers.

The two sets of numbers NC posted means the race has tightened slightly.

Thanks. That makes sense.

Justin7 · 10-17-2020, 12:58 AM

Is there a way to bet on the election LEGALLY in the states? (I dont live in NJ/NV)

preakness · 10-17-2020, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Yes there is I was just there....every walmart, Lowes, Target, basically everywhere I was had a mask mandate and everyone seemed to be caring. Lady told me its effective until after the election?

Now...go to Texas and AZ and things are much different. Nobody really cares in those states except a small fraction in Austin & Houston. But AZ is hands down the one state that truly DGAF!

I live in AZ

Had to wear at Fry's grocery today, at restaurant for lunch when not actively chewing, at the post office and at the casino

preakness · 10-17-2020, 01:15 AM

I'm Catholic
I have not caught Covid

jdandns · 10-17-2020, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by quackhead

If these were "paralleled", I think they would have beat Fauci easily.

I agree, and it's a missed opportunity as Topps would have sold a lot more cards if only they offered the random parallels with these election cards like they do with the baseball version.

For those who don't know, the Fauci Topps Now issue, which sold an eye-popping 50k cards, was in the baseball "Now" on-demand line, and not meant as a political card. Numbered parallels were randomly issued for the first time in the Now baseball set this year, which pumped up the number of Faucis sold. It was also part of the very first set of the regular season and could be bought at a discount as part of a daily set that boasted several other popular cards. It all added up to massive sales for the Dr. Fauci card.

salthill · 10-17-2020, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Justin7

Is there a way to bet on the election LEGALLY in the states? (I dont live in NJ/NV)

Yes. Predictit.org

Justin7 · 10-17-2020, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by salthill

Yes. Predictit.org

The concern I've had with this is what is the contingency if this thing drags on and goes to court battles? Given they aren't Las Vegas and are NZ based I wonder if there could be significant complications with using that as a means of betting this year.

And thank you for the reply.

OscarOne · 10-17-2020, 03:45 AM

McConnell expects Trump to lose": Mitch shoots down stimulus compromise between Trump and Democrats.

GOP suddenly concerned with 'fiscal restraint' after 4 years of deficit spending—The Republican Party is gearing up for a potential Biden presidency, aiming to bring up ‘concerns’ over the national debt after 4 years of deficit spending by the Trump Administration and a massive tax cut for the rich.

They stood by allowed the deficit to go from $580B at the beginning of 2017 to over $3.2T today. Firther, they sat back and said nothing while hundreds of billions we're spent on business and farm subsides to offset loses from the trade war, but now they are calling for restraint.

babyfaceposey · 10-17-2020, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JustRachel

Huh? Lol. The numbers are accurate. Miami is the hotspot of Florida. Bury your head in the sand if you want.

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Not burying anything. Asked for your source.

DegaBama · 10-17-2020, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Yes there is I was just there....every walmart, Lowes, Target, basically everywhere I was had a mask mandate and everyone seemed to be caring. Lady told me its effective until after the election?

Now...go to Texas and AZ and things are much different. Nobody really cares in those states except a small fraction in Austin & Houston. But AZ is hands down the one state that truly DGAF!

There's still A LOT of people not wearing masks. Restaurants are packed again. It's been this way for quite a while too.

ballhawkdawk · 10-17-2020, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Don't forget all the people who died with it, but not FROM it. It seems to be lost on a good amount of people in this thread. Just because someone dies WITH it doesn't mean its actually why they died.

Perhaps if our society as a whole took better care of themselves there would be far less to worry about.

I agree with this. Gotta make yourself harder to kill instead of depending on government for everything.

View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania	34	41.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

10-17-2020, 12:46 AM	#50036
jdandns Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Southern California Posts: 23,316	I'm pretty sure it means you'd have to bet $185 on Biden to win $100 (plus you get the $185 back) if Joe won. The bigger the "minus" over 100, the more that outcome is favored by oddsmakers. For Trump, if you bet $100 on him, you get $160 (plus your $100 back) if the President won. The bigger the "plus" is over 100, the more of an underdog that outcome is in the eyes of the oddsmakers. The two sets of numbers NC posted means the race has tightened slightly. __________________ Glad tidings from the City of Unconditional Love!

10-17-2020, 03:45 AM	#50047
OscarOne Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 832	McConnell expects Trump to lose": Mitch shoots down stimulus compromise between Trump and Democrats. GOP suddenly concerned with 'fiscal restraint' after 4 years of deficit spending—The Republican Party is gearing up for a potential Biden presidency, aiming to bring up ‘concerns’ over the national debt after 4 years of deficit spending by the Trump Administration and a massive tax cut for the rich. They stood by allowed the deficit to go from $580B at the beginning of 2017 to over $3.2T today. Firther, they sat back and said nothing while hundreds of billions we're spent on business and farm subsides to offset loses from the trade war, but now they are calling for restraint. Last edited by OscarOne; 10-17-2020 at 03:48 AM.

10-16-2020, 10:50 PM	#50026
arek Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,975	The majority of cases have been imported by passengers flying into the country. Local transmission was curbed by 3 months of restrictions on public gatherings. Everything is open now, but we need a contact tracing app that you use to sign in and out of businesses and public premises. If you don't have the app, you have to write your details into a form before entering. The requirements were a bit annoying, but everything is open now, so it seems worthwhile.

10-16-2020, 11:35 PM	#50029
gergs1134 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,320 gergs	I'm not sure who made the statement many pages ago, but I am truly undecided at this point still. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that out of 330M people in this country these two are our choices. I could choose to vote 3rd party but feel as though that would be throwing my vote away as the winner will be one or the other. So what is the better of 2 evils so to say?

10-17-2020, 12:58 AM	#50041
Justin7 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: OG Philly Posts: 2,788	Is there a way to bet on the election LEGALLY in the states? (I dont live in NJ/NV)

10-17-2020, 01:15 AM	#50043
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	I'm Catholic I have not caught Covid