2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

Go back and take a second look; that Tweet did specifically say KKK and white supremacists.

Are you aware of how quotes work?

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

You get called those things when they are true. You get mad about it when you fail to see that you are part of the problem. You seriously cannot be this obtuse. I did not blame it all on either side. What I granted was that you are right, it happened under Obama. I also said that a leader would try to repair what is broken, not make it worse. I am sure that you will ignore that again, but it is there. Nothing has been done to mend, only to cater to his voting populace.

So it's true that I am racist? You're really going to sit at your computer wherever you are and make that statement? And then have the guts to claim that I am the problem?

But, yeah, you're not blaming this on one side at all.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

OK, so I condemn BOTH sides of this board for poor behavior and I'm the unhinged one?

Go back and read it again.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

You get called those things when they are true. You get mad about it when you fail to see that you are part of the problem. You seriously cannot be this obtuse. I did not blame it all on either side. What I granted was that you are right, it happened under Obama. I also said that a leader would try to repair what is broken, not make it worse. I am sure that you will ignore that again, but it is there. Nothing has been done to mend, only to cater to his voting populace.

Is there anything specific you care to point to that Obama did to ease racial tensions that Trump has not done?

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

Is there anything specific you care to point to that Obama did to ease racial tensions that Trump has not done?

Or Biden, who just happened to have a pretty important job at the same time.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Is it possible that Trump's positive test is just bs? I would love to see independently verified test results from a neutral medical party.

I could see Trump pulling something desperate like faking a coronavirus infection just so he can proclaim, I had it, I got over it, no big deal.

Perhaps it's too tin-foiley for some, but never underestimate a conman...

Next he'll be saying malaria drugs cured him and his fake family.
We all know its the bleach and Lysol injections that really cure us, not the malaria drugs.

Stock market is waiting to see which Pharm he congratulates that "cured" him to boost the economy from drug sales.

[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

So it's true that I am racist? You're really going to sit at your computer wherever you are and make that statement? And then have the guts to claim that I am the problem?

But, yeah, you're not blaming this on one side at all.

Where did I call anyone a racist? I thought we were trying to have a discussion about a broad section of the world that we call the USA. I guess I was wrong. Again, ignored my overall point because you wanted to argue. Good job.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

Are you aware of how quotes work?

Are you aware of how the internet works?


Transcription of Trump's statement:
"Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans."

[fungi2510]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

Is there anything specific you care to point to that Obama did to ease racial tensions that Trump has not done?

Without going too deep, it would seem that a black man being elected president should help, as all people can see that even the highest office in the land is attainable.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

Where did I call anyone a racist? I thought we were trying to have a discussion about a broad section of the world that we call the USA. I guess I was wrong. Again, ignored my overall point because you wanted to argue. Good job.

"You get called those things when they are true. You get mad about it when you fail to see that you are part of the problem. You seriously cannot be this obtuse."

I was called a racist in this very thread just this today. In this post you said that it's justified. And that I am part of the problem and that I am "obtuse".

But yeah, you're just trying to have a peaceful discussion.

[hrad_23]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

“I don’t wear a mask like him. Every time you see him, he’s got a mask. He could be 200 feet away and he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen.”

Trump on Tuesday night’s debate. What the hell does “biggest mask I’ve ever seen” mean? If anyone is dumb enough to swing a vote to him because he has COVID then they are about as smart as a rock.

This

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by discostu

Curiously, this is actually where you lose a lot of people.

To some, there is no difference between a pathological liar and a garden variety liar.

I am not going to paint a fairy tale picture that no one lies. We know everyone has lied about something at some point. But if we are going to say that anyone that has ever lied cannot be trusted then we might as well never trust anyone ever again. Never trust our friends, never trust our spouse, never trust our coworkers, never trust our parents, etc. People that hardly ever lie should be trusted more than pathological liars, it should be common sense.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by fungi2510

Without going too deep, it would seem that a black man being elected president should help, as all people can see that even the highest office in the land is attainable.

Yeah, getting elected in 2007 demonstrated the leadership necessary to calm the racial tensions in 2014.

Next time just say "nothing, he did nothing".

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

Is there anything specific you care to point to that Obama did to ease racial tensions that Trump has not done?

Yes....he stayed off twitter and didn't claim "Fake News" at every breath. He also killed Bin Laden.

Only thing Trump killed is my faith in our government.

Trump is literally the worse President in my lifetime and its not even close.

If Obama was running right now....it would be the biggest landslide victory for Obama in our history.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I am not going to paint a fairy tale picture that no one lies. We know everyone has lied about something at some point. But if we are going to say that anyone that has ever lied cannot be trusted then we might as well never trust anyone ever again. Never trust our friends, never trust our spouse, never trust our coworkers, never trust our parents, etc. People that hardly ever lie should be trusted more than pathological liars, it should be common sense.

Okay, so if he's a pathological liar, you wouldn't have trusted anything he said about COVID. Sooner or later you're going to have to pick one or the other.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

I heard somewhere that truth, science, and data outweigh opinions and conspiracy theories.

See how easy it is for anyone to be like Q anon and make stuff up to fit whatever narrative you want? ...Trump supporters are dense

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

See how easy it is for anyone to be like Q anon and make stuff up to fit whatever narrative you want? ...you Trump supporters are dense

You just admitted to making something up to fit a narrative? Thank you.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Oh my goodness.

Right, there was a split under Obama because the racists couldn't stand having a black guy in office. It had nothing to do with being called a racist, homophobe, deplorable just for having the nerve to disagree with the left.

I can't believe you just pinned all of this on the right.

The right-wing media lost it's collective mind when Obama won the presidency. Racists around the country lost their minds. The Tea Party was created as a direct answer to the Obama presidency, under the auspices of "fiscal responsibility" when it was really code for "we are a bunch of angry racists that like to cosplay in 1700s garb." (BTW, where is the Tea Party now with the current president running up the deficit?)

Don't act like homophobes, and you won't be called a homophobe. Don't act like a racist, or defend racists, and you won't get called racist.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

Yes....he stayed off twitter and didn't claim "Fake News" at every breath. He also killed Bin Laden.

So he did nothing to lead us out of racial tensions. That's all you had to say.

And I love it when people give Obama credit for finding and killing Obama.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Is it possible that Trump's positive test is just bs? I would love to see independently verified test results from a neutral medical party.

I could see Trump pulling something desperate like faking a coronavirus infection just so he can proclaim, I had it, I got over it, no big deal.

Perhaps it's too tin-foiley for some, but never underestimate a conman...

This is going to be another "thing". There's already a bunch of people saying the same thing and I've already read a post somewhere that was asking if Dems may have set up a false-positive test so the President wouldn't actually get sick making people believe he set the whole thing up.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

If Obama was running right now....it would be the biggest landslide victory for Obama in our history.

It would be shades of Reagan/Mondale.

You know the fact that Trump realizes this still eats at him every day.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Yeah, getting elected in 2007 demonstrated the leadership necessary to calm the racial tensions in 2014.

Next time just say "nothing, he did nothing".

You are about as closed minded as it gets aren't you? You prove my point that there is no hope for peace in this country. All you wanna do is blame a guy in the past and are completely blind to the present. I feel sorry for you
You seem to be the kind of guy that is a "im sorry but" kind of guy...no empathy for humans in general and do not see humans as one color...the color of blood not skin.
Im not calling you a racist, I am calling you ignorant to change.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

The right-wing media lost it's collective mind when Obama won the presidency. Racists around the country lost their minds. The Tea Party was created as a direct answer to the Obama presidency, under the auspices of "fiscal responsibility" when it was really code for "we are a bunch of angry racists that like to cosplay in 1700s garb." (BTW, where is the Tea Party now with the current president running up the deficit?)

People "lost their minds"? That's what you came up with?

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Don't act like homophobes, and you won't be called a homophobe. Don't act like a racist, or defend racists, and you won't get called racist.

So stupid. Someone supports the Biblical definition of marriage: "HOMOPHOBE!!!!" Someone denounces the violence in black communities: "RACIST!!!"

But you still can't figure out why Hillary lost in 2016.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

You just admitted to making something up to fit a narrative? Thank you.

Went over your head there, didn't it?

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

You are about as closed minded as it gets aren't you? You prove my point that there is no hope for peace in this country. All you wanna do is blame a guy in the past and are completely blind to the present. I feel sorry for you
You seem to be the kind of guy that is a "im sorry but" kind of guy...no empathy for humans in general and do not see humans as one color...the color of blood not skin.
Im not calling you a racist, I am calling you ignorant to change.

^^^Perfect example^^^

I point out the flaws in your post, and I am "closed minded" and you "feel sorry" for me. And for good measure, I am "ignorant".

But you guys really want a unified country. Peace and tolerance.

FYI, you already called me a racist. Try to keep track of your insults.