2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I work evenings at our health district's COVID call center. I mostly answer questions based off of CDC and state guidelines, but I also book appointments for drive-thru testing.

I've spoken to positives who sound like death. I've spoken to positives who sound and feel perfectly fine.

I've also booked an appointment for someone who ultimately died of the virus. I've had a former co-worker die of the virus.

It's not fear. It's a healthy respect for something we don't fully understand.

Mask, hand hygiene, and common sense. Open everything back up to normal. The long term ramifications of the current policies in certain states are scarier than the virus itself.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

And many places aren't, because they've been forced to close, his current place of employment is closed......again.
But hey I'm sure those business owners aren't losing out on any LOST revenue and should be able to grow a money tree to pay their bills.
Maybe you don't understand the meaning of none.

I guess you didn’t understand the question. What freedoms have YOU lost? Personally?

I know this is the deflection thread being political and all but I thought you might be a straight shooter.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I'm just confused as to how the same people can cheer the Patriot Act while complaining about so-called unconstitutional measures being taken to help prevent the spread of a virus.

Who's cheering the Patriot Act? I've never spoken to anyone nor have seen anyone post in any forum that they like the Patriot Act.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I work evenings at our health district's COVID call center. I mostly answer questions based off of CDC and state guidelines, but I also book appointments for drive-thru testing.

I've spoken to positives who sound like death. I've spoken to positives who sound and feel perfectly fine.

I've also booked an appointment for someone who ultimately died of the virus. I've had a former co-worker die of the virus.

It's not fear. It's a healthy respect for something we don't fully understand.

I believe some have an unhealthy respect for a virus that kills vary few people percentage wise.
You do your thing, I'll do mine.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mask, hand hygiene, and common sense. Open everything back up to normal. The long term ramifications of the current policies in certain states are scarier than the virus itself.

I see you're back from a day of mopping. Nice to have you back.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mask, hand hygiene, and common sense. Open everything back up to normal. The long term ramifications of the current policies in certain states are scarier than the virus itself.

Common sense is probably the least common trait possessed by the average person.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Christ you are an #@#@#@#@#@#@#@ tonight.

I am. Because of dumbass posts like, “how can you support the ruling that lockdowns are unconstitutional while being for the Patriot Act?” I never mentioned the Patriot Act... ever.

Patriot Act was well before my time in paying attention to politics, but my understanding is that the government wanted to tap phones and use surveillance and whatnot and Republicans were all, “I have nothing to hide, and if you don’t have anything to hide then you shouldn’t be opposed to it for the sake of security.” Those frauds don’t believe in America either. Throw them in the furnace with the Democrats who hate freedom.

Funny thing is... I was pro lockdown early on. Was in your same position debating with a pro Constitution buddy. We gotta save the sick and the elderly, myaannn. And then I watched the Democratic governors play political games with freedom. You don’t get to pick and choose when protests are okay and when social distancing is required. No sir... that’s not how this works. The same, “how could you possibly vote for Trump?” gets asked a lot. That’s how. Play stupid games, win four more years of presidente el stupido.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I guess you didn’t understand the question. What freedoms have YOU lost? Personally?

I know this is the deflection thread being political and all but I thought you might be a straight shooter.

Oh I get it, using my son as an example didn't fit your movable goalposts.
If it makes you feel better I've lost a lots of freedoms that effect my quality of life. No need to give examples as I could very easily, but wasting my time doing so for you as you'll just move your goalposts one more time.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Common sense is probably the least common trait possessed by the average person.

Then so be it. Lock everyone down because some people are morons? No thanks. But if we're going to do that because of the virus, might as well do it because of the riots too...

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Oh I get it, using my son as an example didn't fit your movable goalposts.
If it makes you feel better I've lost a lots of freedoms that effect my quality of life. No need to give examples as I could very easily, but wasting my time doing so for you as you'll just move your goalposts one more time.

Uh, the “goalposts” are still there and unmoved. You just need to go for it, Charlie Brown.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Uh, the “goalposts” are still there and unmoved. You just need to go for it, Charlie Brown.

Whatever Lucy lunatic. I gave you a perfect example of someone losing their freedoms and you get all pissy because it wasn't me.
Don't you see how foolish you look? The rest of us do.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Mask, hand hygiene, and common sense. Open everything back up to normal. The long term ramifications of the current policies in certain states are scarier than the virus itself.

Problem is, one of those things has been politicized and the other thing is lacking in much of the public.

Hand sanitizer seems cool with everyone, though.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Whatever Lucy lunatic. I gave you a perfect example of someone losing their freedoms and you get all pissy because it wasn't me.
Don't you see how foolish you look? The rest of us do.

You said you value freedoms over fears. When I asked what freedoms you lost you couldn’t even name one besides your son losing his job. You’re terribly oppressed and your right.

And her last name was van Pelt. But I guess lunatic works too. Alliteration is witty.

[trixstar]

WI Supreme Court rules to keep Green Party off ballot.


https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5796737002

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

You said you value freedoms over fears. When I asked what freedoms you lost you couldn’t even name one besides your son losing his job. You’re terribly oppressed and your right.

And her last name was van Pelt. But I guess lunatic works too. Alliteration is witty.

He is probably collecting unemployment too.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

You said you value freedoms over fears. When I asked what freedoms you lost you couldn’t even name one besides your son losing his job. You’re terribly oppressed and your right.

And her last name was van Pelt. But I guess lunatic works too. Alliteration is witty.

Yea because losing your means of making a living wage ain't important.
He won't LOSE his vehicle because he can't make payments, or his apartment, and every other expense he has.
Can't believe your still trying to win that battle. But go ahead carry on, without me.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Then so be it. Lock everyone down because some people are morons? No thanks. But if we're going to do that because of the virus, might as well do it because of the riots too...

No, you’re right. Let’s hand out masks, hand sanitizer and common sense. Open everything back up, let the old and lame die. Stupid, too. Then there will be all sorts of jobs available for the oppressed and rest of the people who lost their freedoms.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I am. Because of dumbass posts like, “how can you support the ruling that lockdowns are unconstitutional while being for the Patriot Act?” I never mentioned the Patriot Act... ever.

Patriot Act was well before my time in paying attention to politics, but my understanding is that the government wanted to tap phones and use surveillance and whatnot and Republicans were all, “I have nothing to hide, and if you don’t have anything to hide then you shouldn’t be opposed to it for the sake of security.” Those frauds don’t believe in America either. Throw them in the furnace with the Democrats who hate freedom.

Funny thing is... I was pro lockdown early on. Was in your same position debating with a pro Constitution buddy. We gotta save the sick and the elderly, myaannn. And then I watched the Democratic governors play political games with freedom. You don’t get to pick and choose when protests are okay and when social distancing is required. No sir... that’s not how this works. The same, “how could you possibly vote for Trump?” gets asked a lot. That’s how. Play stupid games, win four more years of presidente el stupido.

My bad - I spoke in generalities. I shouldn't have automatically lumped you into that group.

I was just questioning how the same republican party that pushed for the Patriot Act under the guise of "safety over freedom" is now pushing for the complete re-opening of our country under the guise of "freedom over safety."

I agree. One of the most damaging things that has been done during this pandemic was the complete 180 done on public gatherings while pandemic restrictions were in effect. It certainly damaged the public's trust in the reasons behind the restrictions.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

He is probably collecting unemployment too.

Would his morals allow that?

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

How is this funny? 200,000 people have died because of this virus.

We just had a solemn day of memory for over 2,000 people who died in a terrorist attack, but you can't scrape together some decency to take seriously the deaths of 200,000 American citizens?

Really?

There are WAY too many people in this country. We need to thin the herd.


Not wearing a mask is a good way to do that.


Most of these people are dying anyway, or are really old or have multiple co-morbidities. They drain our healthcare system and need to go.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

He is probably collecting unemployment too.

Some of us on the right like to earn our keep.
I know that's a foreign idea for you to comprehend though

[TheHeel]

EXPLODING TREES!!!

I posted what President Dip stated earlier. Here is the man in all his glory.



This is what some of you are voting for.

[youtube]vFsKfZadXI0[/youtube)

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Would his morals allow that?

The left preaching morals.
You're a hoot!

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

WI Supreme Court rules to keep Green Party off ballot.


https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5796737002

Excellent decision. Can't have people incorrectly filling out forms and expecting their candidacy to count. No exceptions.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What freedoms have you lost?

Freedom of assembly.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...-pa-judge.html

Take it up with the judge.