2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

but to think you got a victory just because you think that some of the businesses should have closed which most that closed wouldn't of had to if the most vulnerable would have been taken care of, because you think we are saying lives don't matter when it comes to our rights is just wrong. I'm sorry

I ran out of breathe reading that. I think.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

a casserole for sure

Early forecast is hot dogs for the game tonight. Final decision is TBD, though. Game time decision.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I ran out of breathe reading that. I think.

ok, not sure what that means but whatever

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

but to think you got a victory just because you think that some of the businesses should have closed which most that closed wouldn't of had to if the most vulnerable would have been taken care of, because you think we are saying lives don't matter when it comes to our rights is just wrong. I'm sorry

Trust me - I don't see anything that has gone on over the last 6 months as a victory for anyone.

I believe that many of the small businesses that were required to close shouldn't have been. I also believe that, had more people taken this seriously in the early months, we wouldn't be where we are.

I don't believe people should be or should have been out rioting and/or protesting. I don't believe that it's fair that a liquor store can be open but a mom and pop has to close.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by rman112

Here I was thinking that someone in their 90's not living in a nursing home was a good thing, but alright.

I do find it kind of funny this has peeved you for like 6 months, though. LOL.

My grandfather lived with us until his mid-80s. Best part of my childhood, honestly.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

How is this funny? 200,000 people have died because of this virus.



We just had a solemn day of memory for over 2,000 people who died in a terrorist attack, but you can't scrape together some decency to take seriously the deaths of 200,000 American citizens?



Really?

The fact that you compare the 2,000 plus that died in a terrorist attack on 9/11 to the 200k mostly elderly and unhealthy people that have died (with) covid-19 is the saddest part of your post.

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[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Trust me - I don't see anything that has gone on over the last 6 months as a victory for anyone.

I believe that many of the small businesses that were required to close shouldn't have been. I also believe that, had more people taken this seriously in the early months, we wouldn't be where we are.

I don't believe people should be or should have been out rioting and/or protesting. I don't believe that it's fair that a liquor store can be open but a mom and pop has to close.

Ok. Then why is it wrong that some are happy with the Supreme Courts decision?

A governor shouldn't have had the power to ruin someone's life like the mom and pop shop.

Even the experts weren't taking it very serious in the beginning. I still think that the reaction has been to some degree misdirected and an over reaction

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

But the post you responded to did not make any mention of your GEOTUS. I've given up trying to shame Trump supporters - it's clear you have none.

Please, continue to jerk yourself off to the image of the constitution while your fellow countrymen die of a disease that much of the world has already handled.

Self awareness isn't one of your strong points.
Maybe, just maybe, trying to shame people isn't the best way to sway opinions. Just ask Hillary, the deplorables have spoken.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

The fact that you compare the 2,000 plus that died in a terrorist attack on 9/11 to the 200k mostly elderly and unhealthy people that have died (with) covid-19 is the saddest part of your post.

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So elderly and unhealthy people dying isn’t a big deal. Thanks, En Sabah Nur.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

The fact that you compare the 2,000 plus that died in a terrorist attack on 9/11 to the 200k mostly elderly and unhealthy people that have died (with) covid-19 is the saddest part of your post.

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That's why I refer to them as the "less dead." They don't matter to you because they are no longer useful to society.

How many elderly deaths equal one real death? 10? 20? 100? When is it okay to start taking the number of dead seriously.

Also, regarding the unhealthy. The majority of our country is "unhealthy." Something like 60% of us have what would be considered a pre-existing condition regarding COVID. Maybe you're not one of them. Maybe you are. Guarantee you know someone that is.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

The fact that you compare the 2,000 plus that died in a terrorist attack on 9/11 to the 200k mostly elderly and unhealthy people that have died (with) covid-19 is the saddest part of your post.

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Agreed. It's basically an apples to Volkswagens comparison.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Ok. Then why is it wrong that some are happy with the Supreme Courts decision?

A governor shouldn't have had the power to ruin someone's life like the mom and pop shop.

Even the experts weren't taking it very serious in the beginning. I still think that the reaction has been to some degree misdirected and an over reaction

I just don't think a full retraction of the guidelines set forth is a good idea and should be celebrated.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

That's why I refer to them as the "less dead." They don't matter to you because they are no longer useful to society.

How many elderly deaths equal one real death? 10? 20? 100? When is it okay to start taking the number of dead seriously.

Also, regarding the unhealthy. The majority of our country is "unhealthy." Something like 60% of us have what would be considered a pre-existing condition regarding COVID. Maybe you're not one of them. Maybe you are. Guarantee you know someone that is.

60% of the people on this forum have some sort of ailment so I don’t doubt your number.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Agreed. It's basically an apples to Volkswagens comparison.

Volkswagen lives matter.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Self awareness isn't one of your strong points.
Maybe, just maybe, trying to shame people isn't the best way to sway opinions. Just ask Hillary, the deplorables have spoken.

That's why I said I've stopped. If the man's own words aren't enough to make people rethink their decision to vote for him, nothing is.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

That's why I refer to them as the "less dead." They don't matter to you because they are no longer useful to society.

How many elderly deaths equal one real death? 10? 20? 100? When is it okay to start taking the number of dead seriously.

Also, regarding the unhealthy. The majority of our country is "unhealthy." Something like 60% of us have what would be considered a pre-existing condition regarding COVID. Maybe you're not one of them. Maybe you are. Guarantee you know someone that is.

Yep, I work with 2 different people that are in their late 50's diabetic, one of which who also has heart problems.
Both missed an amount of time at work with covid. Both are back to work and described it as having the flu.
Other than them, I know no one else who has contracted the virus.
I'm 59 and value my freedoms over my fears. You should try it some time.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Yep, I work with 2 different people that are in their late 50's diabetic, one of which who also has heart problems.
Both missed an amount of time at work with covid. Both are back to work and described it as having the flu.
Other than them, I know no one else who has contracted the virus.
I'm 59 and value my freedoms over my fears. You should try it some time.

What freedoms have you lost?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

That's why I said I've stopped. If the man's own words aren't enough to make people rethink their decision to vote for him, nothing is.

For the umpteenth time when the left can find a candidate that isn't as bad as the last 2 then maybe we could give them some consideration.
I'm not voting for my favorite TV personality or mentor, I'm voting for someone who gets things done.
Why do you have such a difficult time understanding that?

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by rman112

Here I was thinking that someone in their 90's not living in a nursing home was a good thing, but alright.

I do find it kind of funny this has peeved you for like 6 months, though. LOL.

There’s something in this thread that relates to this but I don’t feel like sifting through almost 3 THOUSAND posts by you to find it.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

What freedoms have you lost?

Let me ask my unemployed son.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Let me ask my unemployed son.

So I take that as none.

And many places are hiring.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Yep, I work with 2 different people that are in their late 50's diabetic, one of which who also has heart problems.
Both missed an amount of time at work with covid. Both are back to work and described it as having the flu.
Other than them, I know no one else who has contracted the virus.
I'm 59 and value my freedoms over my fears. You should try it some time.

I work evenings at our health district's COVID call center. I mostly answer questions based off of CDC and state guidelines, but I also book appointments for drive-thru testing.

I've spoken to positives who sound like death. I've spoken to positives who sound and feel perfectly fine.

I've also booked an appointment for someone who ultimately died of the virus. I've had a former co-worker die of the virus.

It's not fear. It's a healthy respect for something we don't fully understand.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

There’s something in this thread that relates to this but I don’t feel like sifting through almost 3 THOUSAND posts by you to find it.

That's interesting.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

So I take that as none.

And many places are hiring.

And many places aren't, because they've been forced to close, his current place of employment is closed......again.
But hey I'm sure those business owners aren't losing out on any LOST revenue and should be able to grow a money tree to pay their bills.
Maybe you don't understand the meaning of none.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Let me ask my unemployed son.

I lost my job during the 2008 recession. It sucks, no doubt about it. I was out of full-time work for five months.