2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I hate to break it to you, but most of us want him back a second term just so we can continue to watch you melt down.
You're like that witch in the Wizard of Oz when the water hits her, except you're a tad bit more like the loony troll from the Wizard of Odd when the truth hits you.
Now please, don't get all mad and stop posting. We beg of you!

he gonna hit you with them s Watch out!!

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I hate to break it to you, but most of us want him back a second term just so we can continue to watch you melt down.
You're like that witch in the Wizard of Oz when the water hits her, except you're a tad bit more like the loony troll from the Wizard of Odd when the truth hits you.
Now please, don't get all mad and stop posting. We beg of you!

My drunk Munchkin groupie has appeared!

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by cnewby

he gonna hit you with them s Watch out!!

I was hoping for the triggered selfie he usually posts.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I was hoping for the triggered selfie he usually posts.

Called it.

[Hootiefish]

9/11 killed less than 2,000 people and the whole republican party cheered when the Patriot Act was passed.

COVID kills 200,000 and we can't even get you people to wear masks because "ma rights!"

Do you not see the disconnection?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

It's sad and embarrassing that you hold a piece of paper written over 200 years ago in higher regard than you do the lives of your fellow citizens.

I feel like some of you may have a picture of the Constitution on your phone for your own special private times.

What's sad and embarrassing is that I stoop to your level for ten minutes and can goad more of a response out of you and your kind than I've ever been able to with posts I've poured countless hours of research into, written without emotion or bias (be it political or otherwise), and written with the intent of discussing ideas for progress.

I've tried and tried and all you ever want to talk about is Trump. It's endless. The man gets more attention than your spouse and children combined, and you think you have an idea of what's best for America when you can't even give your own family the attention it deserves. It's pathetic to watch. How many times did Trump golf today? What's Trump Tweeting about now? I wonder if Trump almost fell today or got ghosted on a high five... I need more memes!

Maybe you don't have kids. I don't know. You all start to blend together with your insincere gibberish. The point is that your whining is endless. You contribute nothing. And you default to the conclusion that you're somehow more aware than everyone else, that the rest of us just don't get it, all while never actually contributing or saying anything real. It's just Trump... all day... everyday.

"But... ballhawkdawk... you're, like, doing that same stuff now too!" I have hundreds of sincere posts in this thread, which I've realized is largely a waste of my time because I'm attempting to discuss things with people who are fully capable but simply don't care as much as they pretend they do.

"I think that I can have a polite dialogue with someone who differs from me... And so, on the one hand, my advice to progressives like myself, and this is advice I give my own daughters who are about to head off to college, is don't go around just looking for insults. You're tough. If somebody says something you don't agree with, just engage them on their ideas."

The above is a perfectly stated message from president Obama, directed at the party that he represented when he was leaving office in 2016. And here we are... the level of engagement is stuck on, "the guy you voted for sucks."

[rhigh2390]

What's with the protests in Lancaster, PA? The body cam footage is already released and it shows the perpetrator running at the cop with a knife before the cop shoots him....

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

What's with the protests in Lancaster, PA? The body cam footage is already released and it shows the perpetrator running at the cop with a knife before the cop shoots him....

It's the fault of caucasians. Not up for debate.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

but but but covid is throwing blood clots

Patients afflicted by covid do have a higher propensity to have clotting disorders which can lead to DVTS/PE's and stroke.



numerous studies are ongoing and the rate of clotting disorders may vary depending on the size of the study.


https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/...%205%20percent.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

9/11 killed less than 2,000 people and the whole republican party cheered when the Patriot Act was passed.

COVID kills 200,000 and we can't even get you people to wear masks because "ma rights!"

Do you not see the disconnection?

Try to paint us as whatever you want. But at the end of the day isn't this a free country where we should be allowed to choose what risks we want to take, etc? Or does that only apply to people that wanted to riot with no masks??

[trixstar]

I honestly can’t believe this is real


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/13...671949825?s=21

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

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Patients afflicted by covid do have a higher propensity to have clotting disorders which can lead to DVTS/PE's and stroke.



numerous studies are ongoing and the rate of clotting disorders may vary depending on the size of the study.


https://news.weill.cornell.edu/news/...%205%20percent.

I'm not going to rehash that conversation that wasn't the debate, but right in your link its says that the other factors still hold true that is mostly older people with other issues, but again that wasn't my argument.

[TheFrenzy]

A bit of good news:

US halts imports from China's Uighur region for forced labor - StarTribune

Four companies and a manufacturing facility in northwestern China were blocked Monday from shipping their products to the U.S. because of their suspected reliance on forced labor from people detained as part of a massive campaign against ethnic minorities in the region.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection issued orders freezing imports from companies that produce cotton, clothing and computer parts in the Xinjiang region of northwestern China, where authorities have detained more than one million people in detention camps as part of the crackdown.

CBP also halted imports of hair products made at a manufacturing facility where authorities believe Uighurs and other ethnic minorities are forced to work.

Ken Cuccinelli, the acting deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, dismissed the notion that the facility is a "vocational" center as has been portrayed by Chinese authorities.

"It is a concentration camp, a place where religious and ethnic minorities are subject to abuse and forced to work in heinous conditions with no recourse and no freedom," Cuccinelli said. "This is modern day slavery."...

...The administration has over the past year issued eight of what are known as "withhold release orders," on goods from China to block goods tainted by forced labor and is considering further steps amid ongoing disputes over trade and other issues between the two countries...

...Xinjiang, which means "new frontier" in Chinese, was brought under control of Chinese authorities in Beijing in the 19th century. But the western desert region has longstanding cultural, religious, and linguistic ties to Central Asia and to Turkey.

An enhanced security state began to take shape in Xinjiang after 2009, when race riots left around 200 people dead in the capital city of Urumqi. In recent years, surveillance cameras and police checkpoints have become ubiquitous.

The government began to build internment camps in 2017 as a means of intimidation and social control. They are now believed to hold around one million people from mostly Muslim ethnic groups that include Uighurs, Kazakhs and Kyrgyz in detention facilities where detainees are subjected to political and cultural indoctrination.

China has denied widespread and consistent reports of abuse and mistreatment of the Uighurs and other minorities, defending the campaign as an effort to crackdown on extremism and claiming the detention camps are for vocational and Chinese language training.

The government has said it treats all ethnicities equally and protects the legal rights of minorities.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Amazing.

people are going off the rails.

[TheFrenzy]

Another example in how not to do reporting.

"How One of Mexico’s Largest Migrant Camps Has Avoided a COVID-19 Outbreak:
Matamoros began its preparation, with extremely limited resources, in March. So far, it’s paid off."

So the headline and the first half of the article are about various preparations the migrant camp made. But how does the article actually answer the question of how the camp avoid a major outbreak?

"There are a variety of possible reasons for the relatively low impact of COVID-19 on the camp’s population, according to Perry. Although the rate of malnutrition is high, the average age is fairly young. People who were sick at baseline or had severe underlying conditions probably did not survive the arduous journeys that got most people to the camp. Besides sleeping in tents, they are mostly outdoors in hot, humid conditions that the virus doesn’t like. And many are wearing masks....No staff at the clinic have become sick either..."

- Young people
- The old and sick died before reaching the camp
- Living outdoors
- Sunlight
- Wearing masks

Aside from wearing masks, not a lot of that aligns with what people want in the United States. So the article isn't nearly as inspiring when you actually read it.

Also: "Like many all over the world, some migrants believe the virus is a hoax. And not surprisingly for people who have been abused and lied to by their own governments, and ours, many see it as a way to control them."

That's a lot more sympathetic than articles typically treat Americans who are suspicious of the virus and the claims made about it.......

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I honestly can’t believe this is real


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/13...671949825?s=21

You hear the old lady? She knows why liberals never want the mask mandate to end... because "most child molesters love 'em."

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I honestly can’t believe this is real


https://twitter.com/yashar/status/13...671949825?s=21

What's crazy is there is more truth to what those protesters are protesting than anything BLM is protesting lol

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

9/11 killed less than 2,000 people and the whole republican party cheered when the Patriot Act was passed.

COVID kills 200,000 and we can't even get you people to wear masks because "ma rights!"

Do you not see the disconnection?

If it was truly about the people's well being in these states why was the focus not put on those people that are high risk instead of forcing millions into unemployment and small business owners into losing their dreams? Why the focus still on how to use the virus as a tool to keep down healthy individuals from making a choice to do things like vote in person? Why has the focus never shifted to those that really need the protection from the virus? If it's really about the protection of people? And why are you so mad that the Constitution was upheld? Isn't that what American's should want? Even if it doesn't agree with their opinion or narrative?

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

What's crazy is there is more truth to what those protesters are saying than anything BLM is protesting lol

Funny that I was thinking they seem similar. "George Floyd said 'I can't breathe', and now I can't breathe in this mask, so, like, what's up with that?" The husky broad nailed it with that bulletproof logic.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

What's sad and embarrassing is that I stoop to your level for ten minutes and can goad more of a response out of you and your kind than I've ever been able to with posts I've poured countless hours of research into, written without emotion or bias (be it political or otherwise), and written with the intent of discussing ideas for progress.

I've tried and tried and all you ever want to talk about is Trump. It's endless. The man gets more attention than your spouse and children combined, and you think you have an idea of what's best for America when you can't even give your own family the attention it deserves. It's pathetic to watch. How many times did Trump golf today? What's Trump Tweeting about now? I wonder if Trump almost fell today or got ghosted on a high five... I need more memes!

Maybe you don't have kids. I don't know. You all start to blend together with your insincere gibberish. The point is that your whining is endless. You contribute nothing. And you default to the conclusion that you're somehow more aware than everyone else, that the rest of us just don't get it, all while never actually contributing or saying anything real. It's just Trump... all day... everyday.

"But... ballhawkdawk... you're, like, doing that same stuff now too!" I have hundreds of sincere posts in this thread, which I've realized is largely a waste of my time because I'm attempting to discuss things with people who are fully capable but simply don't care as much as they pretend they do.

"I think that I can have a polite dialogue with someone who differs from me... And so, on the one hand, my advice to progressives like myself, and this is advice I give my own daughters who are about to head off to college, is don't go around just looking for insults. You're tough. If somebody says something you don't agree with, just engage them on their ideas."

The above is a perfectly stated message from president Obama, directed at the party that he represented when he was leaving office in 2016. And here we are... the level of engagement is stuck on, "the guy you voted for sucks."

Umm... my post had nothing to do with Trump. At all. Like zero.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

And why are you so mad that the Constitution was upheld? Isn't that what American's should want? Even if it doesn't agree with their opinion or narrative?

I'm just confused as to how the same people can cheer the Patriot Act while complaining about so-called unconstitutional measures being taken to help prevent the spread of a virus.

[Hootiefish]

After the Sandy Hook massacre, some dipsh!t talking head said something that, while I couldn't believe it at the time, I now realize encapsulates the republican/libertarian mindset perfectly.

"Your dead kids don't trump my rights."

Meaning, no matter who dies, or how many die, your right to be an a-hole is more important than other people's right to live safely.

It's illustrated in your counter-arguments to gun control. It's illustrated in your counter-arguments to global warming/environmental issues. And it is illustrated in the arguments against preventing the spread of COVID.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

It's sad and embarrassing that you hold a piece of paper written over 200 years ago in higher regard than you do the lives of your fellow citizens.

I feel like some of you may have a picture of the Constitution on your phone for your own special private times.

"You're killing Grandma!"

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Umm... my post had nothing to do with Trump. At all. Like zero.

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Batting .358 on posts with the word "Trump" in them. Solid.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Another example in how not to do reporting.

"How One of Mexico’s Largest Migrant Camps Has Avoided a COVID-19 Outbreak:
Matamoros began its preparation, with extremely limited resources, in March. So far, it’s paid off."

So the headline and the first half of the article are about various preparations the migrant camp made. But how does the article actually answer the question of how the camp avoid a major outbreak?

"There are a variety of possible reasons for the relatively low impact of COVID-19 on the camp’s population, according to Perry. Although the rate of malnutrition is high, the average age is fairly young. People who were sick at baseline or had severe underlying conditions probably did not survive the arduous journeys that got most people to the camp. Besides sleeping in tents, they are mostly outdoors in hot, humid conditions that the virus doesn’t like. And many are wearing masks....No staff at the clinic have become sick either..."

- Young people
- The old and sick died before reaching the camp
- Living outdoors
- Sunlight
- Wearing masks

Aside from wearing masks, not a lot of that aligns with what people want in the United States. So the article isn't nearly as inspiring when you actually read it.

Also: "Like many all over the world, some migrants believe the virus is a hoax. And not surprisingly for people who have been abused and lied to by their own governments, and ours, many see it as a way to control them."

That's a lot more sympathetic than articles typically treat Americans who are suspicious of the virus and the claims made about it.......

Matamoros..? Isn't that the gang from Sicario 2?