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Old 09-14-2020, 08:04 AM   #2026
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So what base cards go for $50 or up early? Trout, Alvarez, Luis Robert, Kyle Lewis, Bo Bichette, Gavin Lux maybe. Any others?
Just to add, a soto base is at $61 And it looks like Acuna will reach that mark also, and a tatis is at $200 now
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Old 09-14-2020, 08:20 AM   #2027
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Interesting, that's the one part of the card I dislike. Seems gimmicky and makes the card look like some ebay aftermarket creation.

Nothing against Baller, and we are all allowed to like what we like, but without the chain I'd be more willing to add these to my collection.
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:18 AM   #2028
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I am sure this listing will last long https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAFFLE-2020...YAAOSwmo1fXuG0
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:31 AM   #2029
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I am sure this listing will last long https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAFFLE-2020...YAAOSwmo1fXuG0
Lol so they are basically charging $225 for 1 pack!

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Old 09-14-2020, 10:35 AM   #2030
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:36 AM   #2031
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I am sure this listing will last long https://www.ebay.com/itm/RAFFLE-2020...YAAOSwmo1fXuG0
They are desperately spamming the item specifics section too.
Maybe I'll just buy all the spots and if I don't get a Luis Robert 1/1 auto from the winning pack, I'll initiate a return

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Old 09-14-2020, 10:37 AM   #2032
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Lol so they are basically charging $225 for 1 pack!

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Correct lol

Fools will be fools buying into this
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:41 AM   #2033
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Lol so they are basically charging $225 for 1 pack!

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Well, 2nd prize gets a BGS 9.5 - 2018 Topps Now Shohei Ohtani RC, so the pack is probably valued tiny bit below $225.
But still around $200
Poor Ohtani, being used as the 2nd prize card just to make it look like they are adding some "value" to the raffle.
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:57 AM   #2034
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Well, 2nd prize gets a BGS 9.5 - 2018 Topps Now Shohei Ohtani RC, so the pack is probably valued tiny bit below $225.
But still around $200
Poor Ohtani, being used as the 2nd prize card just to make it look like they are adding some "value" to the raffle.
I guess bbases will also purchase a few chances at that Ohtani card
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:25 AM   #2035
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When P2020 started so did the Sneaker bois price manipulating a ton on eBay. Since P2020 decline they have searched for other venues to do the same and I feel like that's at least a bit of what's going on here. Their goal is to artificially inflate prices so that people buying think something is more valuable then they sell their own cards for higher prices. It works really well in cases like this where the majority of people aren't flooding the market with the Baller cards yet so they can bid on the ones that are out there. Are the cards pretty cool? Yes! Should a Robert base be $600 when it's printed about the same as a Flashbacks base? No
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:26 AM   #2036
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Lol so they are basically charging $225 for 1 pack!

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Being that he sold 1 box for $470, if he would have just done $1 per, he would sell them at $75 a pack and make a killing. Greedy.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:27 AM   #2037
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I had better get a shipping notification today Mr. Topps
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:29 AM   #2038
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I had better get a shipping notification today Mr. Topps
I just got my shipping email from topps.... but it was for 3 boxes of Bowman Sterling that were delivered in July... meh..... come on Topps!!!
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:35 AM   #2039
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When P2020 started so did the Sneaker bois price manipulating a ton on eBay. Since P2020 decline they have searched for other venues to do the same and I feel like that's at least a bit of what's going on here. Their goal is to artificially inflate prices so that people buying think something is more valuable then they sell their own cards for higher prices. It works really well in cases like this where the majority of people aren't flooding the market with the Baller cards yet so they can bid on the ones that are out there. Are the cards pretty cool? Yes! Should a Robert base be $600 when it's printed about the same as a Flashbacks base? No
Yes I see it happening. Unfortunately, so much truth here.

Sneaker bois will be on steroids for this Ben Baller product.

I'm easily ripping my box
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:52 AM   #2040
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Yes I see it happening. Unfortunately, so much truth here.

Sneaker bois will be on steroids for this Ben Baller product.

I'm easily ripping my box
Tough not to rip, especially if getting boxes in the first couple days of shipping. Although these are first/hyped prices...here is a sampling of just 4 base cards recently sold at auction. I'm not including the best offers or BINs and a quick look at the winning bidders didn't seem to show anything too crazy. Of course these aren't going to be standard prices:

Luis Robert RC base - $611.50
Mike Trout base - $122.50
Pete Alonzo base - $36.00
Trea Turner base - $31.00
Total - $801.00

Again, these are already crazy/hyped/inflated prices out the gate...but even if you got 50% of that you are looking at $400.50 in just 4 base cards (I repeat, still hyped/inflated prices) and that is well before counting whatever parallels, die cuts, and possible autos that may also be included.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:54 AM   #2041
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Tough not to rip, especially if getting boxes in the first couple days of shipping. Although these are first/hyped prices...here is a sampling of just 4 base cards recently sold at auction. I'm not including the best offers or BINs and a quick look at the winning bidders didn't seem to show anything too crazy. Of course these aren't going to be standard prices:

Luis Robert RC base - $611.50
Mike Trout base - $122.50
Pete Alonzo base - $36.00
Trea Turner base - $31.00
Total - $801.00

Again, these are already crazy/hyped/inflated prices out the gate...but even if you got 50% of that you are looking at $400.50 in just 4 base cards (I repeat, still hyped/inflated prices) and that is well before counting whatever parallels, die cuts, and possible autos that may also be included.
Also the tatis base is at $200 Lux is $100 Alvarez $50 Soto $100. Would be nice to get a shipping notification soon....
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Tough not to rip, especially if getting boxes in the first couple days of shipping. Although these are first/hyped prices...here is a sampling of just 4 base cards recently sold at auction. I'm not including the best offers or BINs and a quick look at the winning bidders didn't seem to show anything too crazy. Of course these aren't going to be standard prices:

Luis Robert RC base - $611.50
Mike Trout base - $122.50
Pete Alonzo base - $36.00
Trea Turner base - $31.00
Total - $801.00

Again, these are already crazy/hyped/inflated prices out the gate...but even if you got 50% of that you are looking at $400.50 in just 4 base cards (I repeat, still hyped/inflated prices) and that is well before counting whatever parallels, die cuts, and possible autos that may also be included.
50% of those prices is really really optimistic. Flashbacks is the best comp we have and those guys go for $150, $25, <$5, $1-2 respectively there. I could see the hottest of hot names like Robert, Trout, Tatis, Acuna possibly selling for more than Flashbacks because those cards will be sought after by collectors and whatever new people this product brings in. Don't see the other 95% of the checklist holding up to Flashbacks levels because Flashbacks is overwhelmingly the preferred option for collectors and non-collectors just won't care about the Alonsos and Turners of the product.
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:07 PM   #2043
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Also the tatis base is at $200 Lux is $100 Alvarez $50 Soto $100. Would be nice to get a shipping notification soon....
Exactly Those 4 didn't even cover the current live auctions let alone the completed sales for the BIN/Best Offer base cards too.
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50% of those prices is really really optimistic. Flashbacks is the best comp we have and those guys go for $150, $25, <$5, $1-2 respectively there. I could see the hottest of hot names like Robert, Trout, Tatis, Acuna possibly selling for more than Flashbacks because those cards will be sought after by collectors and whatever new people this product brings in. Don't see the other 95% of the checklist holding up to Flashbacks levels because Flashbacks is overwhelmingly the preferred option for collectors and non-collectors just won't care about the Alonsos and Turners of the product.
50% is not too optimistic if you open and sell this week (I even noted that 50% is still inflated). Chop it to 25% of just those 4 and you are still looking at $200 for 4 base cards with plenty to go with the parallels and die cut (full well knowing some boxes have zero and some boxes have multiple).
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:15 PM   #2045
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Are the boxes coming from Florida? It appears one of my boxes is from that location. Hobby boxes usually ship from PA. Florida is where all of the P2020 and TN stuff ships. I think the Bowman's 1st Edition boxes came out of this location as well. I received a shipping notification for one of my boxes on Friday morning and it appears Fedex has still not picked up the package. Kind of messed up.
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Old 09-14-2020, 12:36 PM   #2046
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Are the boxes coming from Florida? It appears one of my boxes is from that location. Hobby boxes usually ship from PA. Florida is where all of the P2020 and TN stuff ships. I think the Bowman's 1st Edition boxes came out of this location as well. I received a shipping notification for one of my boxes on Friday morning and it appears Fedex has still not picked up the package. Kind of messed up.
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[QUOTE=tcdyess;16432902]I just got my shipping email from topps.... but it was for 3 boxes of Bowman Sterling that were delivered in July... meh..... come on Topps!!![/QUOTEG

Got the same today for my hobby boxes of chrome from last month.
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:19 PM   #2048
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I live in Orlando and have not gotten shipping info yet.
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:20 PM   #2049
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I live in Orlando and have not gotten shipping info yet.
I'm in NJ and no shipping notification yet.
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I'm in California and no shipping notification yet
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