2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

That’s not what I’m saying.

Since making decisions is very relative, I suggest you choose another barometer.

I would not take a long gun to a protest/riot.
I would not disobey police orders
I would not do anything that reasonable people feel would put them in significant danger

[Clark]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

David Duke agrees.

Is he still alive? lol Nobody gives a frick about him or Richard Spencer.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Before anyone thinks of defending Rittenhouse, ask yourself if you’d trade places with him. Guilty or innocent, would you make the same decisions he made to get to this point?

Nope, but I also wouldn't have made the choice to be part of a riot. I feel no sorrow for those he killed and injured. I'll also feel no sorrow if he gets busted on weapons charges. The murder charges seem BS as he was defending himself, but better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

How many innocents trying to protect their property died in the initial Floyd riots that seem to be ignored, but now they're all up in arms cause a kid clapped a couple thugs?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Clark

Is he still alive? lol Nobody gives a frick about him or Richard Spencer.

It was a reference to the time he went to Boston and held a very successful rally.

[Corporal Lance]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

I’m not sure how I can be more clear. How about defend his choices? I’m not asking to pretend to defend him in court. Try to defend what led him to be holding an AR in Kenosha that night.

I have no idea why you ask this obtuse question? You want me, an Internet stranger, to defend a 17-year old who shot and killed several people? Why? It's fairly obvious to anyone that there are mental issues. It does not excuse the behavior, though.

Defend his choices, no.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Since making decisions is very relative, I suggest you choose another barometer.

I would not take a long gun to a protest/riot.
I would not disobey police orders
I would not do anything that reasonable people feel would put them in significant danger

Making these types of decisions are not relative. But it looks like you would make the right decisions and you would not defend his.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

I have no idea why you ask this obtuse question? You want me, an Internet stranger, to defend a 17-year old who shot and killed several people? Why? It's fairly obvious to anyone that there are mental issues. It does not excuse the behavior, though.

Defend his choices, no.

It’s only for people that would defend his decisions. I would not, you would not.

[Corporal Lance]

I only wish for a world where Mom would microwave Hot Pockets for me and my Fortnite friends, and my clothes would be clean and folded at the top of the basement steps.

Is that too much to ask?

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

Nope, but I also wouldn't have made the choice to be part of a riot. I feel no sorrow for those he killed and injured. I'll also feel no sorrow if he gets busted on weapons charges. The murder charges seem BS as he was defending himself, but better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6.

How many innocents trying to protect their property died in the initial Floyd riots that seem to be ignored, but now they're all up in arms cause a kid clapped a couple thugs?

It’s even better to stay home and live a normal life. You can’t kill a looter or rioter so why go to a riot? Guilty or innocent, the rest of his life is screwed.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Making these types of decisions are not relative. But it looks like you would make the right decisions and you would not defend his.

I don't have an issue defending someone who pulls the trigger when people are chasing him down, some with guns themselves.

Sorry, but your assumption is wrong. Making a bad decision doesn't mean you have to sit there and get beaten to death.

But I'm glad you are on the side of the rioters, as long as someone else makes a bad decision, you can do what you want. I guess that means you are on the side of the Rusten as well. Good for you.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

I only wish for a world where Mom would microwave Hot Pockets for me and my Fortnite friends, and my clothes would be clean and folded at the top of the basement steps.

Is that too much to ask?

Now it's mom I am going out for a night of rioting you might need to clean the soot from fires out of my cloths and maybe sew up a couple rips in them if they get ripped on some broken glass from windows I break.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

It was a reference to the time he went to Boston and held a very successful rally.

I partially get it, not knowing the entire history. It bottles my mind that the US is so politically divided that people believe that a racist President is elected in the year 2020.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I don't have an issue defending someone who pulls the trigger when people are chasing him down, some with guns themselves.

Sorry, but your assumption is wrong. Making a bad decision doesn't mean you have to sit there and get beaten to death.

But I'm glad you are on the side of the rioters, as long as someone else makes a bad decision, you can do what you want. I guess that means you are on the side of the Rusten as well. Good for you.

No sympathy for the rioters, especially the ones who got shot. But as long as you’re putting words in my mouth, I have to say I’m disappointed that you are defending his decision to go to the riot. You should reconsider that stance.

[Corporal Lance]

Originally Posted by packman80

Now it's mom I am going out for a night of rioting you might need to clean the soot from fires out of my cloths and maybe sew up a couple rips in them if they get ripped on some broken glass from windows I break.

Amen. I actually wish I had a Hot Pocket right now. My Mom died way too young.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

No sympathy for the rioters, especially the ones who got shot. But as long as you’re putting words in my mouth, I have to say I’m disappointed that you are defensing his decision to go to the riot. You should reconsider that stance.

You may want to read what I said initially about not defending him....

You don't like words being put in your mouth - don't do it to me in the first place. Two people can play your stupid, childish game.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You may want to read what I said initially about not defending him....

You don't like words being put in your mouth - don't do it to me in the first place. Two people can play your stupid, childish game.

Show me where I put words in your mouth before the post you quoted.

You said you didn’t have a problem defending him, so let’s hear your defense.

[Corporal Lance]

Honestly, I cannot understand why this thread exists, other than to generate "clicks" and drive traffic, and money, to the owners.

No one is going to have their opinions changed. Everyone, who is old enough to, knows how they are going to vote.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

Honestly, I cannot understand why this thread exists, other than to generate "clicks" and drive traffic, and money, to the owners.

No one is going to have their opinions changed. Everyone, who is old enough to, knows how they are going to vote.

nah was told Russians told me who to vote for in 2016. Still waiting this time for those non-netural have an agenda Swiss to tell me to vote for in 2020.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Making these types of decisions are not relative. But it looks like you would make the right decisions and you would not defend his.

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

Show me where I put words in your mouth before the post you quoted.

You said you didn’t have a problem defending him, so let’s hear your defense.

I was specific in that I would not make the same decisions as him. You had to add in the bolded to twist my words to say what you wanted.

He was being chased down and acted in self defense.
/defense

It’s not complicated. If he committed other crimes, charge him with those separately. I didn’t see anything in the videos to show he was the aggressor, so if there is other evidence I’d be interested to hear. In reality it’s going to be another couple weeks before we really hear al the evidence, so for now I’ll reserve judgment unless you want to continue to badger and pester so you can put words in people’s mouths.

[Corporal Lance]

Originally Posted by packman80

nah was told Russians told me who to vote for in 2016. Still waiting this time for those non-netural have an agenda Swiss to tell me to vote for in 2020.

I am leaning towards Colonel Sanders, for what it is worth.

[TheFrenzy]

Some people might be forgetting the distinctions between “approving,” “defending,” “justifying,” and “rationalizing.”

I think most people in this thread can definitely rationalize (as in give logical reasons, even if they aren’t the choices we would make) his choice to attend and defend his action once he was in the situation (a very specific slice of time) and under attack, but I don’t think many are putting their stamp of approval on the whole affair.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

Honestly, I cannot understand why this thread exists, other than to generate "clicks" and drive traffic, and money, to the owners.

No one is going to have their opinions changed. Everyone, who is old enough to, knows how they are going to vote.

You are right, no opinions will be changed. It is simply a place to vent. The only reason I am here is to discuss BLM which has slithered across our border.

[Corporal Lance]

Originally Posted by Clark

You are right, no opinions will be changed. It is simply a place to vent. The only reason I am here is to discuss BLM which has slithered across our border.

I lived for a couple of years in Canada. I graduated high school there. I see much more parallel north-and-south, than I do east-and-west.

Example: Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta are more similar to Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, then they are to any other Province.

BC is more like Washington.

PEI, St John's, and it's ilk, is more like Maine, NH, Vermont, then Quebec.

Quebec can just #@#@#@#@ off.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I was specific in that I would not make the same decisions as him. You had to add in the bolded to twist my words to say what you wanted.

He was being chased down and acted in self defense.
/defense

It’s not complicated. If he committed other crimes, charge him with those separately. I didn’t see anything in the videos to show he was the aggressor, so if there is other evidence I’d be interested to hear. In reality it’s going to be another couple weeks before we really hear al the evidence, so for now I’ll reserve judgment unless you want to continue to badger and pester so you can put words in people’s mouths.

I’m sorry for putting words in your mouth and assuming you would not defend his decisions. It appears that you want to defend his decisions even if you would not make them. So let’s start with the decision to go to the riot and work from there. Keep in mind that I understand you wouldn’t make the same decisions.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

I lived for a couple of years in Canada. I graduated high school there. I see much more parallel north-and-south, than I do east-and-west.

Example: Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta are more similar to Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, then they are to any other Province.

BC is more like Washington.

PEI, St John's, and it's ilk, is more like Maine, NH, Vermont, then Quebec.

Quebec can just #@#@#@#@ off.

lol, I agree. We are a good country, and by no means perfect either. Is any country?