First Buzz: 2021 Topps Series 1 baseball cards + SPs - Page 3

jsatx · 08-18-2020, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Hopefully someone besides Jo “bust” Adell

It might be a little soon to call him a bust. There are others: Casey Mize, Nate Pearson, Cristian Pache, Dylan Carlson, Luis Patino, Alec Bohm, Spencer Howard, Nick Madrigal, Tarik Skubal, Brady Singer, Daniel Lynch, Keibert Ruiz, Daulton Varsho, Andres Gimenez, & more to come. There is too much potential there for "investors" to not take a second mortgage to pay for 20 cases.

mfw13 · 08-18-2020, 07:58 PM

Was hoping that they would use the 1981 design for the Throwbacks instead of the 1986 design.....oh well....not much that interests me design-wise.....

mcwildcats · 08-18-2020, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jsatx

It might be a little soon to call him a bust. There are others: Casey Mize, Nate Pearson, Cristian Pache, Dylan Carlson, Luis Patino, Alec Bohm, Spencer Howard, Nick Madrigal, Tarik Skubal, Brady Singer, Daniel Lynch, Keibert Ruiz, Daulton Varsho, Andres Gimenez, Brendan Rodgers, & more to come. There is too much potential there for "investors" to not take a second mortgage to pay for 20 cases.

avicke · 08-19-2020, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jsatx

It might be a little soon to call him a bust. There are others: Casey Mize, Nate Pearson, Cristian Pache, Dylan Carlson, Luis Patino, Alec Bohm, Spencer Howard, Nick Madrigal, Tarik Skubal, Brady Singer, Daniel Lynch, Keibert Ruiz, Daulton Varsho, Andres Gimenez, Brendan Rodgers, & more to come. There is too much potential there for "investors" to not take a second mortgage to pay for 20 cases.

Just a quick correction, Rodgers has his RC in '19 Update.

premium1981 · 08-19-2020, 07:51 AM

Mike Tauchman should have a rookie in this too.

jsatx · 08-19-2020, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by avicke

Just a quick correction, Rodgers has his RC in '19 Update.

Correct and corrected.

mcwildcats · 08-19-2020, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jsatx

Correct and corrected.

What's your best guess for Wander? 2021 S2?

DylanPowers92 · 08-19-2020, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Mike Tauchman should have a rookie in this too.

he had a rookie in 2018 update and series 1 in 2019 I believe (makes no sense)

jeff24k · 08-19-2020, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DylanPowers92

he had a rookie in 2018 update and series 1 in 2019 I believe (makes no sense)

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NCWolf · 08-19-2020, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Update sells itself

Agreed. Update will be just fine.

The $280 jumbo preorder on blowout right now is actually a pretty good deal.

kyle121592 · 08-19-2020, 02:57 PM

So retail will probably be impossible to find in stores im guessing?

calculusdork · 08-19-2020, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Mike Tauchman should have a rookie in this too.

JRX · 08-21-2020, 03:05 PM

Is this going to be the most loaded set ever or will topps spread our the rookies cause it could almost look like a bowman product with the number of guys getting called up.

ThoseBackPages · 08-21-2020, 03:06 PM

Going to be FIRE next winter!

brothertona · 08-21-2020, 03:06 PM

It's going to be super loaded, hopefully it doesn't get cursed like 2020 Series 1 with Yordan, Lux, and Bichette all struggling or injured.

premium1981 · 08-21-2020, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Is this going to be the most loaded set ever or will topps spread our the rookies cause it could almost look like a bowman product with the number of guys getting called up.

It will be loaded, but they will also spread some out I think. Should be plenty of rookie to go around. Print run will probably double and price will certainly double. So could be a reverse factor of 4. Potentially makes the value about the same factoring in content vs production vs price, depending on how they do it.

ddearing · 08-21-2020, 03:18 PM

Assuming that Wander does not debut this year or early enough next year to be in 2021 Series 2, there will need to be someone that is held back for Series 2. Maybe Joey Bart gets held back? Maybe also Nate Pearson since Topps knows that Series 1 is going to sell no matter what.

While there are a lot of good players that have or will debut this year, are any of them strong enough to carry a product like Robert in 2020 Series 2, Yordan/Lux/Bichette in Series 1, Vlad/Hiura in 2019 Update, Big 3 in 2019 Series 2, etc?

My thoughts are that the quantity of RCs in series 1 will carry it, but they have to hold someone(s) big back for Series 2. No idea who that would be though.

Or, they just hope that Wander makes his debut middle of next year and they can SP him in Series 2. That would be enough to sell it.

JRX · 08-21-2020, 03:43 PM

I saw someone on fangraphs point out that for the rays to max out control with Wander they wouldn't call him up until early 2022. Who knows what they will do and if they will give up a year of control to say win a ws. So far we have who?

Adell, Madrigal, Pearson, Mize, Bart, Pache, Spencer Howard, Carlson, Sixto Sanchez, Skubal, Bohm, and I'm probably missing a bunch. It might be a case of quantity over quality next year, but who knows.

clocsta2323 · 08-21-2020, 04:27 PM

$1300 for hobby , $1300 for jumbo

premium1981 · 08-21-2020, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

$1300 for hobby , $1300 for jumbo

Sounds about right in this market.

JRX · 08-21-2020, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Sounds about right in this market.

per box lol

silverandblack · 08-21-2020, 06:35 PM

Wow just saw the prices 110 a hobby box and 225 for a jumbo. Get the F out of here with those prices. Freaking ridiculous.

UGLI baby · 08-21-2020, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by silverandblack

Wow just saw the prices 110 a hobby box and 225 for a jumbo. Get the F out of here with those prices. Freaking ridiculous.

Don’t worry, you’ll be able to grab em for $150/$310 soon.

speedyjg13 · 08-21-2020, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by silverandblack

Wow just saw the prices 110 a hobby box and 225 for a jumbo. Get the F out of here with those prices. Freaking ridiculous.

That's the price of admission.

You gotta pay to play

ThoseBackPages · 08-21-2020, 06:41 PM

cant wait!

08-21-2020, 03:06 PM	#64
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08-21-2020, 03:18 PM	#67
ddearing Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 3,821 vintage-dan ddearing	Assuming that Wander does not debut this year or early enough next year to be in 2021 Series 2, there will need to be someone that is held back for Series 2. Maybe Joey Bart gets held back? Maybe also Nate Pearson since Topps knows that Series 1 is going to sell no matter what. While there are a lot of good players that have or will debut this year, are any of them strong enough to carry a product like Robert in 2020 Series 2, Yordan/Lux/Bichette in Series 1, Vlad/Hiura in 2019 Update, Big 3 in 2019 Series 2, etc? My thoughts are that the quantity of RCs in series 1 will carry it, but they have to hold someone(s) big back for Series 2. No idea who that would be though. Or, they just hope that Wander makes his debut middle of next year and they can SP him in Series 2. That would be enough to sell it. __________________ If you have to explain why it's a 1/1, then it's NOT a 1/1. Looking for Andre Dawson Serial numbered cards that are his jersey number - either #8 or #10. So looking for cards like 8/8 or 08/99 or 10/250.

08-21-2020, 06:41 PM	#75
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,438 ThoseBackPages	cant wait! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

08-18-2020, 07:58 PM	#52
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,680	Was hoping that they would use the 1981 design for the Throwbacks instead of the 1986 design.....oh well....not much that interests me design-wise.....

08-19-2020, 07:51 AM	#55
premium1981 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,429	Mike Tauchman should have a rookie in this too.

08-19-2020, 02:57 PM	#61
kyle121592 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: United States Posts: 3,407	So retail will probably be impossible to find in stores im guessing?

08-21-2020, 03:05 PM	#63
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,958	Is this going to be the most loaded set ever or will topps spread our the rookies cause it could almost look like a bowman product with the number of guys getting called up.

08-21-2020, 03:06 PM	#65
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,966 brothertona1	It's going to be super loaded, hopefully it doesn't get cursed like 2020 Series 1 with Yordan, Lux, and Bichette all struggling or injured.

08-21-2020, 03:43 PM	#68
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,958	I saw someone on fangraphs point out that for the rays to max out control with Wander they wouldn't call him up until early 2022. Who knows what they will do and if they will give up a year of control to say win a ws. So far we have who? Adell, Madrigal, Pearson, Mize, Bart, Pache, Spencer Howard, Carlson, Sixto Sanchez, Skubal, Bohm, and I'm probably missing a bunch. It might be a case of quantity over quality next year, but who knows.

08-21-2020, 04:27 PM	#69
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,882	$1300 for hobby , $1300 for jumbo

08-21-2020, 06:35 PM	#72
silverandblack Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3,863	Wow just saw the prices 110 a hobby box and 225 for a jumbo. Get the F out of here with those prices. Freaking ridiculous.