Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.

[Boredlawyer]

Looks like Gary Sanchez with all the hard hit ground balls to the pull side.

[stevenab87]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Answer: Juan Soto


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You literally cherry-picked the lowest possible point in his season to make what point?

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by stevenab87

You literally cherry-picked the lowest possible point in his season to make what point?

So, I'm going to disagree with your characterization that this was "cherry-picking." When examining a data point that represents six or so weeks of cumulative statistics, it's representative of those six or so weeks. (Specifically, the first six weeks of Soto's second season in the Major Leagues.)

And so... It's showing that arguably the best hitter in the game was struggling pretty badly further into his second season than Vlad is into HIS second season. Big picture, it indicates that young hitters might go through some struggles on their way to greatness. More specifically, it suggests that those who are giving up on Vlad and/or characterizing him as a flop, the next Delmon Young, an unmotivated silver spooner, etc... are prematurely rendering a verdict on a player barely 20 games into his age-21 season.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

So, I'm going to disagree with your characterization that this was "cherry-picking." When examining a data point that represents six or so weeks of cumulative statistics, it's representative of those six or so weeks. (Specifically, the first six weeks of Soto's second season in the Major Leagues.)

And so... It's showing that arguably the best hitter in the game was struggling pretty badly further into his second season than Vlad is into HIS second season. Big picture, it indicates that young hitters might go through some struggles on their way to greatness. More specifically, it suggests that those who are giving up on Vlad and/or characterizing him as a flop, the next Delmon Young, an unmotivated silver spooner, etc... are prematurely rendering a verdict on a player barely 20 games into his age-21 season.

Hitting aside, the verdict is already rendered that his defense is so bad he's going to be permanently stuck at 1B/DH(DH more often than not) which caps his upside at much lower than what people think his true potential is(MVP contention, which is near impossible)

People dunking on his performance aren't saying he's a complete bust. No one doubts he can improve and that his hitting will likely improve. It's just much, much more likely he turns into a regular above average player than one of the top 15 guys in the game

And everyone is really underestimating how horrendous he's been since he debuted. He ranks 167th in WAR out of 179 among players with at least 500 ABs from 2019-2020. Just behind Colin Moran and just ahead of Joe Panik lol

[SGC300ier]

I do feel bad for all the people that are HEAVILY invested in him.

I am sure he is going to blow up soon.....

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[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by SGC300ier

I do feel bad for all the people that are HEAVILY invested in him.

I am sure he is going to blow up soon.....

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I'd consider myself "heavily invested" in him, but I'm even more so "heavily invested" in Arenado, Trout, Soto, and Acuna. So, don't feel bad for me.

It's called diversification. You win some, you lose some.

It's still way to early to consider this a loss though. I bought in pretty early.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by SGC300ier

I do feel bad for all the people that are HEAVILY invested in him.

I am sure he is going to blow up soon.....

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i see what you did there! lol

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by SGC300ier

I do feel bad for all the people that are HEAVILY invested in him.

I am sure he is going to blow up soon.....

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Nice!

[jhssketchcards]

Sorry, but if aim gonna jump on any Blue Jay player train it’s the Bichette one... that’s currently in the yard for repairs.


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[PLAYED4NOTHING]

Originally Posted by Yaga

Are you serious???

Unfortunately yes.I bought those cards from the get and they graded well.Oh well

[biggieruth]

Just buying his nno numbers and updates real cheap

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[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by biggieruth

Just buying his nno numbers and updates real cheap

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Smart man. They’re practically back at Winter ‘19 prices.


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[oaklandasfan]

3 hrs 6 rbis

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by oaklandasfan

3 hrs 6 rbis

I expect twice that from a 21 year old! Sell!

[rngrdanny22]

This was pretty cool:

https://www.mlb.com/news/vladimir-gu...e-on-one-swing

[DiegsHobby]

Originally Posted by oaklandasfan

3 hrs 6 rbis

Will be today's box score

[Danderlion]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

This was pretty cool:

https://www.mlb.com/news/vladimir-gu...e-on-one-swing

Nice. I remember when Austin Riley did that last year.

It's pretty rare to happen, and I believe the batter is supposed to be out when it does occur. My guess is that it is very difficult for the umps to know if it was hit twice.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by DiegsHobby

Will be today's box score

PlayStation right?

[WalterAZ31]

its definitely hilarious that Vlad Jr sucks, hes overrated and washed already

im totally fine with Bellinger hitting .170.....hes an MVP potential baby, skys the limit

- LA fan

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

its definitely hilarious that Vlad Jr sucks, hes overrated and washed already

im totally fine with Bellinger hitting .170.....hes an MVP potential baby, skys the limit

- LA fan

Yea it's obvious you don't know any Dodger fans, nobody is happy about his new stance and struggles....and sorry but Bellinger wasn't pumped like an over sized Barry Bonds when he was a prospect. He struggles every year and already won MVP.
Try making an example of a comparable player thanks.

[PLAYED4NOTHING]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

This was pretty cool:

https://www.mlb.com/news/vladimir-gu...e-on-one-swing

Wow I’ve honestly never seen that happen before. Much easier to tell when in slow motion obviously. Take some strong forearms/wrist to get that in the outfield

[rngrdanny22]

These player threads do nothing but bring out the jealous and/or narcissistic.

Every. Single. One.

[Cards and 401K]

I did like that hit when the ball came off the bat TWICE. He's only 21, 2 months older than Tatis Jr and 5 months older than Soto. he'll be fine.

[ThoseBackPages]

not many collectors nowadays

#Thanks2020

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

not many collectors nowadays

#Thanks2020

That’s the good thing. I had to stop because I was priced out. People losing confidence is allowing me to grab cards cheaper, especially while everyone is focused on Tatis.