Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[mudflap02]

https://freeonlinesurveys.com/s/ZqEFRgIz

Bruuuuutal matchups in the Elite Eight due to the non-seeding chaos

JK5 on JK5 crime

High seeds (as I judged them) slugging it out before they should have, to face weaker opponents

Easy pickins - vote!

[samcam]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Or the devil's dandruff...

I am the devil's lettuce: Green and good for you, but duality has you wondering what good can come from the leader of the fallen.

Then you realize it is only when you come to understand your darkness that you can truly become the light.

As for the white stuff...I tried it once. Did about four spoons in the French Quarter on Halloween with some rando and got nothing so I decided I wouldn't go further down that road.

Found MDMA to be a much more exciting time! Take Siff/Ermsy/Shore and mush em together and there you go.

Hard to believe that was 20 years ago!

[vermonty]

Thiele makes busy cards but they can be appealing in their own way. This Ripken gives me a Picasso-esque Cubism vibe. I prefer his Henderson the most, but this is one of his better efforts, in my opinion.

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

I strongly disagree.

This doesn't seem to be a matter of mild preference - his Mattingly, Clemente, Williams and Ripken are all much worse than what he previewed.

Strongly agree here. It's hard to look at these 4 cards.

[JRX]

Thiele is like George Lucas, he's got great creativity, but he needs someone to tell him no at times.

[mudflap02]

Originally Posted by vermonty

Thiele makes busy cards but they can be appealing in their own way. This Ripken gives me a Picasso-esque Cubism vibe. I prefer his Henderson the most, but this is one of his better efforts, in my opinion.

This guy with the hot opinions! You should post more!

Jump in, the water is fine.

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

All caught up. I thought I missed 30 pages of discussion of and discourse on P2020 cards. Turns out I missed 28 pages on JK5 boxes. 1/400th of the set's companion card packaging. Let's move on if possible?

It just bores me to death, trying to be honest here guys. If it was a great box or a bad box, either way. It's a supplement to 1/400th of what we actually want to talk about!

Here are my hot takes:

Ziggy got banned somehow. I saw he snuck a curse word by, that might have been it. RIP bro.

Today's 2 cards -
Thiele Ripken is...... weird, and not in a good way. His face looks nothing like's Cal's, but I guess we should have seen that coming (Ted Williams Wedding Cake face, anyone?) The art is above average, the face is bad.

Siff Henderson is...... also weird, also not in a good way. His stuff is always weird. I've been his biggest critic and his biggest fan on here. He is definitely the three true outcome P2020 artist. I didn't think he could make a card that I would like less than his Nolan Ryan, but here we are. 3 pitch strikeout, all called strikes. Do not like.

Having said that, I am buying both. I learned my lesson with the Siff Ryan - hated it at first, continued to hate it, bought it, still hated it, can't stop looking at it. I'm going to give this Henderson the benefit of the doubt that maybe there's something there I will pick up on when it's in hand.

P2020 goes on - every day is a 2pac.

I really like and agree with Siff as a three true outcomes kind of artist. It's always an adventure with him whereas others' cards can seem more predictable. The Nolan Ryan is awful to me; it's one of my least favorite cards in the entire set. It might be because it reminds me of something I might have drawn as a kid (and I do not claim to be an artist). Some of his others--I'm partial to the Frank Thomas--are delightful.

[mudflap02]

Originally Posted by vermonty

Thiele makes busy cards but they can be appealing in their own way. This Ripken gives me a Picasso-esque Cubism vibe. I prefer his Henderson the most, but this is one of his better efforts, in my opinion.

I couldn't even remember he did a Henderson, and I went back and it was only a couple of weeks ago. Looking at it now - not a bad card, tons of detail But SO BUSY! So much going on!

[mudflap02]

Originally Posted by vermonty

I really like and agree with Siff as a three true outcomes kind of artist. It's always an adventure with him whereas others' cards can seem more predictable. The Nolan Ryan is awful to me; it's one of my least favorite cards in the entire set. It might be because it reminds me of something I might have drawn as a kid (and I do not claim to be an artist). Some of his others--I'm partial to the Frank Thomas--are delightful.

There is a poster here named Col. Kurtz who will explain why you are exactly correct on the Siff Ryan.

[AirplaneDon]

Originally Posted by vermonty

Thiele makes busy cards but they can be appealing in their own way. This Ripken gives me a Picasso-esque Cubism vibe. I prefer his Henderson the most, but this is one of his better efforts, in my opinion.

This is what I like about his final Ripken, that “wonky” Ripken in my simpleton wording.

I also agree overall with Thiele, though some I find visually assaulting, while others I find refreshing. The Henderson kind of gives me motion sickness. Which is an odd thing for a static image to do; so while I don’t care for it aesthetically, I appreciate the off putting effect it has me.

[katho]

I got my JK5 Rickey Henderson today..My question is,Is Rickey holding a Pencil or a sword in the drawing...I always thought it was a sword,But,after looking closely,it looks like a pencil......If this has already been discussed,then sorry

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

This guy with the hot opinions! You should post more!

Jump in, the water is fine.

Thanks. I really just like the cards and have enjoyed being able to dissect them as they've been released during an unusual year, to say the least.

Here are my 5 favorites:
Grotesk Trout
Shore Brett
Efdot Ripken
Fucci Gooden
Siff Thomas

and my 5 least:
Oldmanalan Rivera
Mister Cartoon Robinson
Thiele Williams
Fucci Mattingly
Siff Ryan

One thing that is great about this set is we all have different likes and can celebrate or express disappointment in what the artists offer us. It's a ride we'll never forget.

[ctcardexchange]

I got shipping notices on cards 105-116 today. Way to go Topps! But I got cards 101-104 today and the Rochester Mays was in a snap tite. They ordered 1M holders and still had to resort to snap tites??

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[eldustino]

Originally Posted by mudflap02

There is a poster here named Col. Kurtz who will explain why you are exactly correct on the Siff Ryan.

Kurtz is gone for now. We'll need someone to channel him. He's in Yugoslavia or something.

One of the good ones. Pouring a little jack and ginger out for the man from 8 miles high.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by ctcardexchange

the Rochester Mays was in a snap tite. They ordered 1M holders and still had to resort to snap tites??

[ThoseBackPages]

#ThanksTopps

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

#ThanksTopps

Flipping the subject, but I watched Baller's IG story and saw he just picked up a brand-new black McLaren (yeah I'm a car person). Vanity plate BBDTC

Wondering if it's his version of an FU P2020 purchase.

I'm sure not, but maybe the delta between his expectations of his take from this set and the reality justified the purchase. Doubt it's fun to drive around on the streets anyway. Honestly not jealous, just observing. Carry on. Jk5 v Jk5, who ya got? Henderson for me.

[ctcardexchange]

And just got notice for 117 and 118. Someone is working late at topps tonight. 14 cards in one day!

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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by eldustino

Flipping the subject, but I watched Baller's IG story and saw he just picked up a brand-new black McLaren (yeah I'm a car person). Vanity plate BBDTC

Wondering if it's his version of an FU P2020 purchase.

I'm sure not, but maybe the delta between his expectations of his take from this set and the reality justified the purchase. Doubt it's fun to drive around on the streets anyway. Honestly not jealous, just observing. Carry on. Jk5 v Jk5, who ya got? Henderson for me.

i have no idea what any of this means lol

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by eldustino

Flipping the subject, but I watched Baller's IG story and saw he just picked up a brand-new black McLaren (yeah I'm a car person). Vanity plate BBDTC

Wondering if it's his version of an FU P2020 purchase.

I'm sure not, but maybe the delta between his expectations of his take from this set and the reality justified the purchase. Doubt it's fun to drive around on the streets anyway. Honestly not jealous, just observing. Carry on. Jk5 v Jk5, who ya got? Henderson for me.

I'll go with Trout. Laser beams! My favorite JK5 is the Jeter, though. He really hit the target with that one.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by eldustino

Vanity plate BBDTC

Wondering if it's his version of an FU P2020 purchase.

That's always been his moniker far before p2020.




More like an ode to realized profits.

[par578]

Originally Posted by fjdlrw

Stage 1 of Thiele's Ripken. He's posting his process again on the FB page. I like the picture better on his first draft.


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Looks sharp--and like Ripken.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's always been his moniker far before p2020.




More like an ode to realized profits.

Chain or cards.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by AirplaneDon

No one can convince me his Williams couldn’t display in any pop art section of a museum. I’ve become irrationally obsessed with the card.

Except it looks nothing like Williams.

I bought one of Thiele’s top tier Jeter autograph offerings. Included was supposed to be a nicely done, art-covered baseball. What I received was an overly painted ball that even made my wife grimace. It is so bad, I can’t make myself buy another top tier offering.

As often correctly stated here, his previous version was better than the finished product, sadly.

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's always been his moniker far before p2020.




More like an ode to realized profits.

Yeah... I know - I added that little bit at the end of drafting my post. Didn't mean to imply that the plate was a reference to p2020.