2019-20 Panini Chronicles Basketball- Pre-release Thread

[Seven Costanza]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

so this just hit eBay 5 minutes ago

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-of-1-Zion...fMxin&LH_BIN=1

you have one day..

[blackbart18]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

why though? answer better not have anything to do with "I pulled more Zions in dis one"

how many chrome / foil / paper / vet in each? how many color? that's all we care about, and all that matters when it comes to value

Here are some numbers for those interested.

Four Mega Boxes

Chronicles Base = 61 (10 Teal)
Panini = 56 (8 teal)
Playoff = 49 (7 teal)
Luminance = 46 (5 teal)
Marquee = 36 (8 teal)
Essentials = 35 (7 teal)
Prestige = 30 (6 teal)
Threads = 29 (4 teal)
Recon = 14 (2 teal)
XR = 14 (3 teal)
Donruss Update (not optic) = 8 (0 teal)
Crusade = 6 (2 teal)
Phoenix = 4 (0 teal)
Flux = 4 (1 teal, 1 silver)
Hometown Heroes = 2 (0 teal)
Update Prizm = 2 (0 teal)

Autos = 2 (One Flux auto and one Hometown heroes auto)

Note: my count might be slightly off as that's only 398 cards but I don't feel like recounting.

[Backtocollectin]

Originally Posted by psd2k10

Hit ONE store during my lunch....and found them!!!




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Cali right?

[tomingo0711]

Found some in western PA. Limited to 1 blaster and 1 hanger. Here are my “hits”

I would say best are the silver prizm Kyrie, Recon JA, and Lebrons. Probably all headed to eBay.

Not sure about the others. With all the variations I’m having trouble putting a value on some.




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[Jugador]

Originally Posted by blackbart18

Here are some numbers for those interested.

Four Mega Boxes

Chronicles Base = 61 (10 Teal)
Panini = 56 (8 teal)
Playoff = 49 (7 teal)
Luminance = 46 (5 teal)
Marquee = 36 (8 teal)
Essentials = 35 (7 teal)
Prestige = 30 (6 teal)
Threads = 29 (4 teal)
Recon = 14 (2 teal)
XR = 14 (3 teal)
Donruss Update (not optic) = 8 (0 teal)
Crusade = 6 (2 teal)
Phoenix = 4 (0 teal)
Flux = 4 (1 teal, 1 silver)
Hometown Heroes = 2 (0 teal)
Update Prizm = 2 (0 teal)

Autos = 2 (One Flux auto and one Hometown heroes auto)

Note: my count might be slightly off as that's only 398 cards but I don't feel like recounting.

How many Zion/Ja?

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by blackbart18

Here are some numbers for those interested.

Four Mega Boxes

Chronicles Base = 61 (10 Teal)
Panini = 56 (8 teal)
Playoff = 49 (7 teal)
Luminance = 46 (5 teal)
Marquee = 36 (8 teal)
Essentials = 35 (7 teal)
Prestige = 30 (6 teal)
Threads = 29 (4 teal)
Recon = 14 (2 teal)
XR = 14 (3 teal)
Donruss Update (not optic) = 8 (0 teal)
Crusade = 6 (2 teal)
Phoenix = 4 (0 teal)
Flux = 4 (1 teal, 1 silver)
Hometown Heroes = 2 (0 teal)
Update Prizm = 2 (0 teal)

Autos = 2 (One Flux auto and one Hometown heroes auto)

Note: my count might be slightly off as that's only 398 cards but I don't feel like recounting.

This kind of data is perfect, thank you. with a larger sample size of this kind of data should be able to predict average box outcomes

[jfan2024]

Originally Posted by blackbart18

Here are some numbers for those interested.

Four Mega Boxes

Chronicles Base = 61 (10 Teal)
Panini = 56 (8 teal)
Playoff = 49 (7 teal)
Luminance = 46 (5 teal)
Marquee = 36 (8 teal)
Essentials = 35 (7 teal)
Prestige = 30 (6 teal)
Threads = 29 (4 teal)
Recon = 14 (2 teal)
XR = 14 (3 teal)
Donruss Update (not optic) = 8 (0 teal)
Crusade = 6 (2 teal)
Phoenix = 4 (0 teal)
Flux = 4 (1 teal, 1 silver)
Hometown Heroes = 2 (0 teal)
Update Prizm = 2 (0 teal)

Autos = 2 (One Flux auto and one Hometown heroes auto)

Note: my count might be slightly off as that's only 398 cards but I don't feel like recounting.

Thanks this is helpful. So you are only hitting 5 chromes a box with only one being a parallel. None being numbered

[lethalray]

Originally Posted by psd2k10

Hit ONE store during my lunch....and found them!!!




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Wow, how do you do it...lol. Grats dude!! Pretty empty up here in SoCal.

[Retail Fool]

Originally Posted by lethalray

Wow, how do you do it...lol. Grats dude!! Pretty empty up here in SoCal.

SoCal i believe tomorrow-Fri (hopefully)

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

cool thanks. if you could help tally how many chrome (crusade / phoenix / flux) per box that would be helpful as well. I think if we can group together some totals we can figure out best value, but as of now it seems anecdotal. as far as singles go it looks like Flux>Phoenix>Crusade>the rest, so knowing how many chrome per $ in each format would be useful. with so many damn cards per box, paper is going to be worthless

oh and btw, I have a window open with a search for chronicles boxes. PLEASE DON'T BUY any yet, the market is being flooded even with people making purchases. as of right now (3:41 PST), I show 524 listings. it's gone up about net 15 in the last 45 minutes. as more and more flood the market the PRICES WILL COME DOWN, just have faith in the process. there's no way 500+ sellers, soon to be 1k+, have the discipline to hold pricing steady and not undercut.

1.5 hours later, active listings went from 524 to 558. that number is going to keep going up, higher listings are getting buried and will probably have to come back to undercut the new ones. stay strong.

[psd2k10]

Originally Posted by Backtocollectin

Cali right?

Yup. The REAL SoCal!

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

cool thanks. if you could help tally how many chrome (crusade / phoenix / flux) per box that would be helpful as well. I think if we can group together some totals we can figure out best value, but as of now it seems anecdotal. as far as singles go it looks like Flux>Phoenix>Crusade>the rest, so knowing how many chrome per $ in each format would be useful. with so many damn cards per box, paper is going to be worthless

oh and btw, I have a window open with a search for chronicles boxes. PLEASE DON'T BUY any yet, the market is being flooded even with people making purchases. as of right now (3:41 PST), I show 524 listings. it's gone up about net 15 in the last 45 minutes. as more and more flood the market the PRICES WILL COME DOWN, just have faith in the process. there's no way 500+ sellers, soon to be 1k+, have the discipline to hold pricing steady and not undercut.

Unfortunately most have the mentality like the guy that said he will buy every mega box around $250. Even if you honestly think they will be $600-$700 why would you buy now at $250 if you can save $50-$75 a box next week? These boxes are not limited. There should be no FOMO right now when it comes to a retail product that the floodgates will be open for the next 3 weeks.

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

1.5 hours later, active listings went from 524 to 558. that number is going to keep going up, higher listings are getting buried and will probably have to come back to undercut the new ones. stay strong.

I am holding...I think if Walmart gets a big wave and shelves get emptied, they will continue to drop. Hoping to pick up a at least a couple of each SKU.

[thefranchise3]

As I mentioned earlier, if you're hoping for prices to drop, Walmart needs to be stocked asap. Right now it's just target and prices won't be undercut as much if Walmart is over a week later.

Also no megas at Walmart most likely, so the megas sadly won't fall too much imo.

[missedthedrop]

Originally Posted by RAFAEL311

nothing yet in southern cali all is silent

So Cal has been stocked. I have been seeing listings for product in LA cites on feEbay.

Originally Posted by thefranchise3

As I mentioned earlier, if you're hoping for prices to drop, Walmart needs to be stocked asap. Right now it's just target and prices won't be undercut as much if Walmart is over a week later.

Also no megas at Walmart most likely, so the megas sadly won't fall too much imo.

Prices will slide further. It's only a matter of time. Still not cheap enough for me to fork over the $$

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by missedthedrop

So Cal has been stocked. I have been seeing listings for product in LA cites on feEbay.



Prices will slide further. It's only a matter of time. Still not cheap enough for me to fork over the $$

Just checked and it seems like it's on Whittier, Cerritos, Long Beach and Compton. Hasn't hit the South Bay or Orange County so far.

[blackbart18]

Originally Posted by Jugador

How many Zion/Ja?

13 Zion - 2 teal
10 Ja - 1 teal

[blackbart18]

Originally Posted by jfan2024

Thanks this is helpful. So you are only hitting 5 chromes a box with only one being a parallel. None being numbered

Yeah, that's about right. No numbered cards. Roughly 15 teals per mega. And 4-5 chromes per box. The hometown heroes I assume are not the hardest Chrome cards to hit. I just happened to hit two prizm updates which probably took their place.

[blackbart18]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

This kind of data is perfect, thank you. with a larger sample size of this kind of data should be able to predict average box outcomes

Just took a rough count of the rookie totals and came up with around 330 rookies out of the 400 cards. So call it 80%.

This will not shock anyone but collation is bad. I opened the packs in the same order in each box. (cause I'm weird like that) First three boxes, I'd guess at least 5 or more packs were identical. Evidenced by the fact that of the 14 Recon I pulled, 3 were Jaxson Hayes, 3 were Jarrett Culver, and 3 were Coby White. Lol

[missedthedrop]

Originally Posted by blackbart18

Just took a rough count of the rookie totals and came up with around 330 rookies out of the 400 cards. So call it 80%.

This will not shock anyone but collation is bad. I opened the packs in the same order in each box. (cause I'm weird like that) First three boxes, I'd guess at least 5 or more packs were identical. Evidenced by the fact that of the 14 Recon I pulled, 3 were Jaxson Hayes, 3 were Jarrett Culver, and 3 were Coby White. Lol

So Collation is Hayes / Culver / White.
Good to know, thanks.
If I see 1 of them, I know I'm getting the other 2 hahaha.

[blackbart18]

Originally Posted by missedthedrop

So Collation is Hayes / Culver / White.

Good to know, thanks.

If I see 1 of them, I know I'm getting the other 2 hahaha.

That same collation of Mega packs will also yield you 3 Morant XR, 3 Zion Playbook, and 3 Zion Marquee. So, it's not all bad, lol.

Edited to add a pic. Some of the teal parallels are sharp looking.

[MixednMaxed]

Second day of trying. Walked in around the same time (6pm) same location as yesterday.

[smanzari]

Opened 3 Megas, 1 Blaster and 3 Hangers (Bought @ LCS, not Target).

16 Zions (3 Parallels - Best Teal Flux)
12 Jas (4 Parallels - Best Green Luminance)
2 Autos (Reddish & Olynyx)
1 Auto Relic (MKG)

Can confirm collation is terrible and pulled dupes in the same pack, Twice (Nunn Prestige & Zion Recon)

[RAFAEL311]

[QUOTE=yiguiri2002;16294231]Just checked and it seems like it's on Whittier, Cerritos, Long Beach and Compton. Hasn't hit the South Bay or Orange County so far.



just target no walmarts

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by blackbart18

Here are some numbers for those interested.

Four Mega Boxes

Chronicles Base = 61 (10 Teal)
Panini = 56 (8 teal)
Playoff = 49 (7 teal)
Luminance = 46 (5 teal)
Marquee = 36 (8 teal)
Essentials = 35 (7 teal)
Prestige = 30 (6 teal)
Threads = 29 (4 teal)
Recon = 14 (2 teal)
XR = 14 (3 teal)
Donruss Update (not optic) = 8 (0 teal)
Crusade = 6 (2 teal)
Phoenix = 4 (0 teal)
Flux = 4 (1 teal, 1 silver)
Hometown Heroes = 2 (0 teal)
Update Prizm = 2 (0 teal)

Autos = 2 (One Flux auto and one Hometown heroes auto)

Note: my count might be slightly off as that's only 398 cards but I don't feel like recounting.

Originally Posted by smanzari

Opened 3 Megas, 1 Blaster and 3 Hangers (Bought @ LCS, not Target).

16 Zions (3 Parallels - Best Teal Flux)
12 Jas (4 Parallels - Best Green Luminance)
2 Autos (Reddish & Olynyx)
1 Auto Relic (MKG)

Can confirm collation is terrible and pulled dupes in the same pack, Twice (Nunn Prestige & Zion Recon)

can you please give in terms like the above poster? not to sound mean, but I don't care how many of X or Y player any one person pulled. I think if we know how many of each type of card comes out of each SKU, we can use the checklist to derive how many of each player to expect.