AEW Wrestling Discussion Thread - Page 23

DonrussDean · 07-29-2020, 09:07 PM

MJF def will beat Mox at all out..

Allen gets his shot next week vs Mox. It be cool if Allen beats Mox and starts a feud with MJF, but the Starks-Allen feud isn't over. Not sure what they do with Cage here. Archer has already become pretty irrelevant, is Cage going to be next?

Overall not a great show. I just wish they break Page and Omega up and be done with it. Let them lose on Dynamite. I think Lee and Cabana are going to get the belts. They are hyping the DO and they will get a belt somewhere. I can honestly see Omega turn on Page in a match vs Cabana and Lee and join the DO.

Don't like the 10-12 man tag matches. Next week we get a 12 man. Blah

Jericho · 07-31-2020, 02:10 PM

MJF as champion would be even worse than Moxley. Just turn Omega and the Bucks and have Omega as world champion and Bucks beat whoever beats Omega and Page. And get that other title off Cody, I know it's a worthless belt but someone like Cage could use it.

DonrussDean · 07-31-2020, 07:05 PM

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MJF as champion would be even worse than Moxley. Just turn Omega and the Bucks and have Omega as world champion and Bucks beat whoever beats Omega and Page. And get that other title off Cody, I know it's a worthless belt but someone like Cage could use it.

That would be horrible..

MJF is the by far the best heel, he is a younger Jericho and would be an amazing champ.

I don't get the love for the young bucks. There decent, but not champ worthy.

Tblades_17 · 07-31-2020, 09:48 PM

I like MJF, he can talk with the best of them.

kdog4187 · 08-01-2020, 01:09 AM

While it is looking like FTR is going to beat Omega/Page I would like to see Ortiz and Santana get a shot. They have been grossly underused since joining AEW. They have been freaking money working with Jericho and I think they are one of the better working tag teams in a loaded division.

DonrussDean · 08-01-2020, 12:46 PM

FTR is going to beat Lee and Cabana.. I see DO beating Page and Omega and one of those two going with the DO. I think DO will add 2 decent guys by year's end.

Jericho · 08-01-2020, 08:13 PM

The Dark Order thing has been a complete flop. Just have Brodie and Cabana tag without all the other stuff, its corny as hell.

As far as FTR goes, I don't understand the love so many seem to have for them. They're average at best, still living off those matches from NXT when Ciampa and Gargano carried them.

LC2nine10 · 08-02-2020, 05:49 AM

^ Because they wrestler like it's the mid 1800's and its "pure" or something.

Why are people excited about Ryder of all things?! I thought aew wasnt just going to take wwe cast-offs. But they sure as heck are.

coors022 · 08-02-2020, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

^ Because they wrestler like it's the mid 1800's and its "pure" or something.

Why are people excited about Ryder of all things?! I thought aew wasnt just going to take wwe cast-offs. But they sure as heck are.

Lmao, people all jacked about Zack Ryder, now its gonna be Eric Bischoff on Wednesday

packman80 · 08-02-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

^ Because they wrestler like it's the mid 1800's and its "pure" or something.

Why are people excited about Ryder of all things?! I thought aew wasnt just going to take wwe cast-offs. But they sure as heck are.

WWE and AEW are all hot trash. I would not take a free ticket to see either one if fans were allowed to go

brothertona · 08-02-2020, 11:28 AM

Yeah unfortunately both have been pretty terrible during the pandemic. There have been a few bright spots - Darby Allin is a future superstar, MJF is the best heel in the business, Keith Lee is a once in a lifetime talent, Drew Mcintyre's reign has been great and he's incredibly believable. Outside of that it's been pretty crap, occasionally you get a bright spot but they have been few and far between.

BravesFan4Life · 08-03-2020, 12:41 AM

Can someone explain the hype in AEW for MJF? Watched the show and literally turned it off half way through his little monologue, did not find it interesting or edgy or really anything other than annoying. Jericho is great with the mic, I do not see Jericho at all in this guy. Maybe I am just missing something.

kdog4187 · 08-03-2020, 10:25 AM

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Can someone explain the hype in AEW for MJF? Watched the show and literally turned it off half way through his little monologue, did not find it interesting or edgy or really anything other than annoying. Jericho is great with the mic, I do not see Jericho at all in this guy. Maybe I am just missing something.

MJF is very well spoken. He plays the mega heel extremely well and has great confidence on the mic. I did not think his latest promo was his best ever but it wasn't bad at all. The biggest thing lacking with MJF right now is you have to see him with the live crowd, he get's very Bubba Ray Dudley early 90's ECW heat.

Jericho · 08-04-2020, 12:07 PM

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Can someone explain the hype in AEW for MJF? Watched the show and literally turned it off half way through his little monologue, did not find it interesting or edgy or really anything other than annoying. Jericho is great with the mic, I do not see Jericho at all in this guy. Maybe I am just missing something.

He's average at best, your typical paint by numbers heel promo. People just blow everything that AEW does out of proportion. He's no where near close to Jericho on the mic, it's hilarious when people compare them.

DonrussDean · 08-04-2020, 01:33 PM

Hearing Colt Cabana is out?

Jericho · 08-06-2020, 12:05 PM

Not the best of shows this week. The main event was terrible IMO.

chiefsncards275 · 08-06-2020, 12:06 PM

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Not the best of shows this week. The main event was terrible IMO.

I thought the complete opposite. I could watch Mox beat the hell out of Darby all day. The debate was really funny and entertaining too!

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Jericho · 08-06-2020, 12:09 PM

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I thought the complete opposite. I could watch Mox beat the hell out of Darby all day. The debate was really funny and entertaining too!

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Having Bischoff there just made me think they were desperate for anyone from another promotion to be there.

Darby shouldn't be in the main events ever. He's basically a garbage wrestler. Someone who just throws himself at people and off of things. A modern day Spike Dudley.

chiefsncards275 · 08-06-2020, 12:12 PM

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Having Bischoff there just made me think they were desperate for anyone from another promotion to be there.

Darby shouldn't be in the main events ever. He's basically a garbage wrestler. Someone who just throws himself at people and off of things. A modern day Spike Dudley.

Disagree with you there too. AEW is a new promotion, what else are they supposed to do other then get someone with past experience elsewhere. Would you prefer it be some random dude no one head of?

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DonrussDean · 08-06-2020, 12:27 PM

I thought the debate was awful and the show not the worst, but not very good. I do give AEW some room though since they don't have a huge roster and even with that, they are missing guys like Pac. That said, I do think they need to find some good story lines and have the capability to have good story lines, but haven't found them yet.

Again, what is the story with Archer? He now just a spectator at ring side? He came in with such a huge push and now has nothing. Cage will be the same. I believe they need to break up the Inner Circle. They are starting to be blah IMO. Jericho as great as he is, shouldn't be a main guy at this point.

Jericho · 08-06-2020, 12:35 PM

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Disagree with you there too. AEW is a new promotion, what else are they supposed to do other then get someone with past experience elsewhere. Would you prefer it be some random dude no one head of?

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You could have just had JR, Tony, or even Taz do it. AEW says they wanna be different from any promotions in the past (WWE/WCW), yet they bring in a guy who's biggest years came with WCW, so its going to make people think they're a little desperate for a name there.

SavageScott · 08-06-2020, 06:08 PM

The Debate joke was clever and just genius writing...when it was first done in Old School.

cdub6238 · 08-06-2020, 07:06 PM

It seems like people just cant enjoy things anymore. Its either AEW is the best! Nuh uh AEW is garbage NXT is wayyy better!

When the reality is they can both be enjoyable but both are also far from perfect.

I thought the opening match was enjoyable, albeit a clusterf* with so many involved. But it moved forward the storyline

Best Friends and LAX was good, just think LAX deserves some wins to stay credible.

Cody and Cardona vs DO was ok, if not a bit long.

Thought the Baker Swole segment was awful. Like anybody didnt know what the outcome would be.

Bischoff got a legit pop out of me. Idc if they are just grabbing people for attention, it worked as it was totally unexpected. Did think the segment went too long and went nowhere to start with Jericho doing the schtick youd expect. But OC actually cut a good promo to end

Hardy promo was ok, kinda bland, but the beatdown and Sammys insane spot was great.

ME was solid. Went in knowing itd be hard hitting but didnt think Darby had a legit shot . Then the Mjf spot had me like oh hell they might actually do this? Ending was kinda meh after that though

LC2nine10 · 08-07-2020, 10:22 AM

Is this Heels thing for reals?

brothertona · 08-07-2020, 12:46 PM

I hope not, AEW has the worst women's division of any of the three major promotions.

07-31-2020, 09:48 PM	#554
Tblades_17 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 2,000 t-blades	I like MJF, he can talk with the best of them. __________________ http://s1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd402/tblades_17/

08-06-2020, 06:08 PM	#572
SavageScott Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,383	The Debate joke was clever and just genius writing...when it was first done in Old School. __________________ http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c370/SavageScott/

07-29-2020, 09:07 PM	#551
DonrussDean Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,433	MJF def will beat Mox at all out.. Allen gets his shot next week vs Mox. It be cool if Allen beats Mox and starts a feud with MJF, but the Starks-Allen feud isn't over. Not sure what they do with Cage here. Archer has already become pretty irrelevant, is Cage going to be next? Overall not a great show. I just wish they break Page and Omega up and be done with it. Let them lose on Dynamite. I think Lee and Cabana are going to get the belts. They are hyping the DO and they will get a belt somewhere. I can honestly see Omega turn on Page in a match vs Cabana and Lee and join the DO. Don't like the 10-12 man tag matches. Next week we get a 12 man. Blah

07-31-2020, 02:10 PM	#552
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	MJF as champion would be even worse than Moxley. Just turn Omega and the Bucks and have Omega as world champion and Bucks beat whoever beats Omega and Page. And get that other title off Cody, I know it's a worthless belt but someone like Cage could use it.

08-01-2020, 01:09 AM	#555
kdog4187 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 348 kdog41874dev	While it is looking like FTR is going to beat Omega/Page I would like to see Ortiz and Santana get a shot. They have been grossly underused since joining AEW. They have been freaking money working with Jericho and I think they are one of the better working tag teams in a loaded division.

08-01-2020, 12:46 PM	#556
DonrussDean Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,433	FTR is going to beat Lee and Cabana.. I see DO beating Page and Omega and one of those two going with the DO. I think DO will add 2 decent guys by year's end.

08-01-2020, 08:13 PM	#557
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	The Dark Order thing has been a complete flop. Just have Brodie and Cabana tag without all the other stuff, its corny as hell. As far as FTR goes, I don't understand the love so many seem to have for them. They're average at best, still living off those matches from NXT when Ciampa and Gargano carried them.

08-02-2020, 05:49 AM	#558
LC2nine10 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 2,835	^ Because they wrestler like it's the mid 1800's and its "pure" or something. Why are people excited about Ryder of all things?! I thought aew wasnt just going to take wwe cast-offs. But they sure as heck are.

08-02-2020, 11:28 AM	#561
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,950 brothertona1	Yeah unfortunately both have been pretty terrible during the pandemic. There have been a few bright spots - Darby Allin is a future superstar, MJF is the best heel in the business, Keith Lee is a once in a lifetime talent, Drew Mcintyre's reign has been great and he's incredibly believable. Outside of that it's been pretty crap, occasionally you get a bright spot but they have been few and far between.

08-03-2020, 12:41 AM	#562
BravesFan4Life Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Broomfield, CO(Its Really just a Suburb of Denver) Posts: 1,440 atlbravesfan4life BravesFan4Life	Can someone explain the hype in AEW for MJF? Watched the show and literally turned it off half way through his little monologue, did not find it interesting or edgy or really anything other than annoying. Jericho is great with the mic, I do not see Jericho at all in this guy. Maybe I am just missing something.

08-04-2020, 01:33 PM	#565
DonrussDean Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,433	Hearing Colt Cabana is out?

08-06-2020, 12:05 PM	#566
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	Not the best of shows this week. The main event was terrible IMO.

08-06-2020, 12:27 PM	#570
DonrussDean Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 1,433	I thought the debate was awful and the show not the worst, but not very good. I do give AEW some room though since they don't have a huge roster and even with that, they are missing guys like Pac. That said, I do think they need to find some good story lines and have the capability to have good story lines, but haven't found them yet. Again, what is the story with Archer? He now just a spectator at ring side? He came in with such a huge push and now has nothing. Cage will be the same. I believe they need to break up the Inner Circle. They are starting to be blah IMO. Jericho as great as he is, shouldn't be a main guy at this point.

08-06-2020, 07:06 PM	#573
cdub6238 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 16,389	It seems like people just cant enjoy things anymore. Its either AEW is the best! Nuh uh AEW is garbage NXT is wayyy better! When the reality is they can both be enjoyable but both are also far from perfect. I thought the opening match was enjoyable, albeit a clusterf* with so many involved. But it moved forward the storyline Best Friends and LAX was good, just think LAX deserves some wins to stay credible. Cody and Cardona vs DO was ok, if not a bit long. Thought the Baker Swole segment was awful. Like anybody didnt know what the outcome would be. Bischoff got a legit pop out of me. Idc if they are just grabbing people for attention, it worked as it was totally unexpected. Did think the segment went too long and went nowhere to start with Jericho doing the schtick youd expect. But OC actually cut a good promo to end Hardy promo was ok, kinda bland, but the beatdown and Sammys insane spot was great. ME was solid. Went in knowing itd be hard hitting but didnt think Darby had a legit shot . Then the Mjf spot had me like oh hell they might actually do this? Ending was kinda meh after that though

08-07-2020, 10:22 AM	#574
LC2nine10 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Fayetteville Posts: 2,835	Is this Heels thing for reals?

08-07-2020, 12:46 PM	#575
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,950 brothertona1	I hope not, AEW has the worst women's division of any of the three major promotions.