2019-20 Panini Chronicles Basketball- Pre-release Thread - Page 65

KhalDrogo · 07-31-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SageTC

Right. But boxes w/ 4 Zions and 3 Morants are why people are willing to risk $900/box.

But why do that when you can spend less for a fat pack box and pull 7+ of any given player on the upper end?

SageTC · 07-31-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Most boxes won’t be that loaded obviously, but the chance of hitting that many Zion/Ja in one box is why the prices are so high. I just got a call back from my LCS and he said he was able to get one more box from his distributor and he’ll hold it for me...I might make a very bad decision.

Haha. I can't wait for the video!

eastbayak · 07-31-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

But why do that when you can spend less for a fat pack box and pull 7+ of any given player on the upper end?

Because some people are chasing the hobby exclusives (gala, titanium draft position, vanguard platinum) and/or parallels.

It's the same reason (probably people) why Prizm/Spectra hobby boxes are selling 1.2-2.5k per (when the average ROI is nowhere close).

Pacmeyer · 07-31-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Most boxes won’t be that loaded obviously, but the chance of hitting that many Zion/Ja in one box is why the prices are so high. I just got a call back from my LCS and he said he was able to get one more box from his distributor and he’ll hold it for me...I might make a very bad decision.

Hope he throws in some toploaders at least.

rtanner1019 · 07-31-2020, 01:47 PM

So retail won’t be hitting stores until next week?

bigjbasketball · 07-31-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SageTC

Haha. I can't wait for the video!

Haha, it will be coming!

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Hope he throws in some toploaders at least.

I actually have a pretty good deal worked out with them. They buy a ton of my cards I otherwise wouldn’t be able to sell, or cards that wouldn’t be worth my time to photograph, list, and ship out to buyers. Usually I have a bunch of stuff to bring in when I go there, so at the end of the day I typically have enough to trade in to get my boxes for free or next to nothing. Yeah I’m sure I could make more money if I sold all the cards myself, but then it would honestly become a full-time job to do all that work selling these lower-end cards. I’m happy to trade them in for some new sealed wax, even if it’s overpriced.

anm2231 · 07-31-2020, 02:05 PM

Don’t make excuses for buying a $900 box...you could put 1 zion and 1 Ja in a box and make all the cards nice and shiny and people will still buy

Or wait for retail

Pacmeyer · 07-31-2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Haha, it will be coming!

I actually have a pretty good deal worked out with them. They buy a ton of my cards I otherwise wouldn’t be able to sell, or cards that wouldn’t be worth my time to photograph, list, and ship out to buyers. Usually I have a bunch of stuff to bring in when I go there, so at the end of the day I typically have enough to trade in to get my boxes for free or next to nothing. Yeah I’m sure I could make more money if I sold all the cards myself, but then it would honestly become a full-time job to do all that work selling these lower-end cards. I’m happy to trade them in for some new sealed wax, even if it’s overpriced.

Sadly the store by me doesn't do any of that. The only thing that can be relied upon is they will add at least 10-20% to the market price for Chronicles hobby when they start breaking their boxes.

anm2231 · 07-31-2020, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rtanner1019

So retail won’t be hitting stores until next week?

No it’s tonight nationwide at 6 pm est...Walmart and target both got together for the big release. You can lineup inside and wait in line just like waiting for a new PlayStation console release. They will hand you a wristband and when you get to the front of the line you get to choose what you like. Limited amount of wristbands though per store

anm2231 · 07-31-2020, 02:22 PM

They changed the release date on the Panini website to Monday...guess they can’t fix it

tier1dc · 07-31-2020, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Hope he throws in some toploaders at least.

oh, he'll definitely throw something in.

TSonn · 07-31-2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SageTC

I just watched a rip of a Chronicles box. 4 Zions, 3 Morants, 1 Coby, 1 LeBron, and a few SP/SSP cards. That's why these things are selling at $900. Jesus.

If the Zions are Threads, Playoff, Panini, and Luminance - it's still a bad box. Those all at a PSA 10 still doesn't get your money back. If they are Crusade, Phoenix, Illusions, and Flux - then it's a solid box. Still could pull the same out of a blaster though.

eastbayak · 07-31-2020, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

If the Zions are Threads, Playoff, Panini, and Luminance - it's still a bad box. Those all at a PSA 10 still doesn't get your money back. If they are Crusade, Phoenix, Illusions, and Flux - then it's a solid box. Still could pull the same out of a blaster though.

Illusion is its own standalone product this year: https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...ball-nba-cards

Brobocop · 07-31-2020, 02:41 PM

Cards Infinity is doing random pack breaks for $146 a pack, wtf is this world???

bigjbasketball · 07-31-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Sadly the store by me doesn't do any of that. The only thing that can be relied upon is they will add at least 10-20% to the market price for Chronicles hobby when they start breaking their boxes.

My LCS sells most of their singles online, they have a huge eBay store, so that’s why they take all the cards I bring in. If they were just trying to re-sell my stuff in-store, that would never work.

LTLurker · 07-31-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Cards Infinity is doing random pack breaks for $146 a pack, wtf is this world???

Lol, and I remember when I only bought 1 prizm fat pack box at $150 off eBay in mid-December because “I could always get another next week with so many listings at 150-160”.

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TSonn · 07-31-2020, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

Illusion is its own standalone product this year: https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...ball-nba-cards

Ah, yep. I meant Essentials.

Has anyone seen the Phoenix design yet? I haven't seen any. Maybe retail only? Maybe they didn't include it?

TSonn · 07-31-2020, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Has anyone seen the Phoenix design yet? I haven't seen any. Maybe retail only? Maybe they didn't include it?

JK - just saw it in a break. Whew.

eastbayak · 07-31-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Ah, yep. I meant Essentials.

Has anyone seen the Phoenix design yet? I haven't seen any. Maybe retail only? Maybe they didn't include it?

From eBay

TSonn · 07-31-2020, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eastbayak

From eBay

Thanks! Glad they are in there.

Though, bummer they aren't embossed like in years past - they are just super flat like football.

prospectorgems · 07-31-2020, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Accountant

i'm not loaning my money through november

You don't pay until it ships. If of course you don't pay via paypal.

bigjbasketball · 07-31-2020, 03:03 PM

I think I prefer last year’s Phoenix, but those still look pretty nice.

eastbayak · 07-31-2020, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Thanks! Glad they are in there.

Though, bummer they aren't embossed like in years past - they are just super flat like football.

No problem at all. And I'm definitely glad too haha

mcwildcats · 07-31-2020, 03:40 PM

No retail today. I tried.

WhacksPacks · 07-31-2020, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Just talked to my LCS owner and he only got 3 boxes and already sold all of them for $900 each. I really wanted to rip one but I guess he just saved me from making a very bad decision!

Champion? Good saves me the temptation haha

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anm2231 Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 2,239	Don’t make excuses for buying a $900 box...you could put 1 zion and 1 Ja in a box and make all the cards nice and shiny and people will still buy Or wait for retail

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Brobocop Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 13,753 brobocop2	Cards Infinity is doing random pack breaks for $146 a pack, wtf is this world???

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