2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You still haven’t made a salient point or responded to my initial points.
You rehash others peoples thoughts in the form of link dumps and demand I dispute them.
You claim I have emotional shortcomings, but tell me you have no issues with me.

C’mon now bruh. Speak troof.

What'd you like to talk about mate? Do you want to recognized as intelligent?
Do you want my attention? What are you looking for?

I used external references to back my perspective, as per the request of the user named ballhawk...
Without providing external resources, the discussion quickly devolves into opinion vs. opinion and gets nowhere.
I'm sorry it was stressful that I encouraged you to read.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

What happened? I was out walking the dog. Just saw Eaton launch one off Cole though. Just the logo stuff?

I’m assuming he’s talking about everyone coaches included kneeling for the anthem

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I’m assuming he’s talking about everyone coaches included kneeling for the anthem

Will be the first time most of them actually got their uniforms dirty. Good for them.

I always make fun of baseball but this is the perfect season. Only 60 games like it should be.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I’m assuming he’s talking about everyone coaches included kneeling for the anthem

Wasn't it before the anthem?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Wasn't it before the anthem?

Yes it was before the anthem.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

What'd you like to talk about mate? Do you want to recognized as intelligent?
Do you want my attention? What are you looking for?

I used external references to back my perspective, as per the request of the user named ballhawk...
Without providing external resources, the discussion quickly devolves into opinion vs. opinion and gets nowhere.
I'm sorry it was stressful that I encouraged you to read.

I responded to someone else’s post with my thoughts to further a discussion with him. You got triggered and accused me of making petty attacks on you. Now you’re acting like I have the problem. I’m looking for you to respond to my initial post that triggered you, the one you claimed had zero substance...

Stop being so childish and passive aggressive. You started this back and forth, not me.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Considering most of the people I know's wealth comes from owning a home couldn't it be said if most minority's live in cities they are far less likely to own their home? Which could highly skew the numbers for overall wealth. Regardless the numbers are staggering. Again though, I don't think its racism so much as an endless cycle of being born into tough situations. Sort of setting up each future generation for failure, or at best a tough uphill battle.

I would be curious if you took the figures of white kids in similar situations (both stable/unstable) as brown and black kids if you get similar results/percentages?

There is some interesting information about property and home redlining in communities that you might find to be a good read. Many families over generations have derived some measure of wealth from owning homes/land and slowly moving up using home equity, unless you were a person of color in many states:

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america

[trixstar]

Complete scumbags from top to bottom.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/u....co/JXhf8LmdEU

NEW: Two filmmakers gained unprecedented access to the immigration officials carrying out Trump's hardline agenda. Then, they say they were threatened, told to delete scenes that made officers look bad and delay publication under after the election.

“Some of the contentious scenes include ICE officers lying to immigrants to gain access to their homes and mocking them after taking them into custody. One shows an officer illegally picking the lock to an apartment building during a raid.”

[tpeichel34]

Fauci throws a strike!

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-call...tely-on-target
WASHINGTON, D.C.—CNN is reporting that the ceremonial first pitch to open up the 2020 season at Nationals Park, which was thrown wildly off the mark by none other than Dr. Anthony Fauci, was 100% accurate, completely on target, and a "real strike."

[rman112]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Fauci throws a strike!

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-call...tely-on-target
WASHINGTON, D.C.—CNN is reporting that the ceremonial first pitch to open up the 2020 season at Nationals Park, which was thrown wildly off the mark by none other than Dr. Anthony Fauci, was 100% accurate, completely on target, and a "real strike."

This was good!

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Fauci throws a strike!

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-call...tely-on-target
WASHINGTON, D.C.—CNN is reporting that the ceremonial first pitch to open up the 2020 season at Nationals Park, which was thrown wildly off the mark by none other than Dr. Anthony Fauci, was 100% accurate, completely on target, and a "real strike."

I like the TMZ one.

DR. ANTHONY FAUCI Ceremonial 1st Pitch SOCIAL DISTANCES FROM STRIKE ZONE

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Wasn't it before the anthem?

Could have been I just saw a photo of it on Twitter.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Could have been I just saw a photo of it on Twitter.

“ Yankees, Nationals kneel in pregame ceremony, then stand for anthem”

- Not Twitter

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

You’re correct. I’ve posted numerous discussions amongst black intellectuals that dispel a lot of the garbage being perpetuated by mainstream media that just gets lapped up by those who are desperate to support a cause... any cause. It largely goes ignored because it strips away the feel good feeling MSM consumers get when they parrot “black lives matter” and other silly sayings that don’t achieve anything. There are real, nuanced discussions to be had about racial progress, but none of it is happening in the mainstream media or the primary public discourse.

Post your sources. I’ve been desperate to consume something of substance that advocates for BLM. Haven’t found it. I’d be happy to post mine... FBI statistics, black intellectuals who are professors at Ivy League schools, blacks who have written books on race, etc. I try harder than the dipsh**s that keep trying to shame everyone into a corner for not chugging koolaid, but since my conclusions are vastly different, they’re ignored at best and labeled as racist at worst. And that’s fine. Some of us need to have a spine to keep this thing afloat. Can’t let the crazies run the asylum.

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Having had a number of conversations with him, what he means when he says that is that anyone that won’t listen to his side is closed minded.

Whether he just takes the contrarian viewpoint to the majority of what is said here or he truly believes what he says 1000%, I’m not sure. But I can tell you for certain what he said and what he actually means aren’t the same.

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I responded to someone else’s post with my thoughts to further a discussion with him. You got triggered and accused me of making petty attacks on you. Now you’re acting like I have the problem. I’m looking for you to respond to my initial post that triggered you, the one you claimed had zero substance...

Stop being so childish and passive aggressive. You started this back and forth, not me.

The first post is ballhawkdawk responding to my post.
Yours is an immediate response to his post quoting mine
Can you follow this logic?

Also note that he asked for my sources.

P.S. Sorry I stole your friends attention away from you.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

There is some interesting information about property and home redlining in communities that you might find to be a good read. Many families over generations have derived some measure of wealth from owning homes/land and slowly moving up using home equity, unless you were a person of color in many states:

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/52665...egated-america

No argument that redlining was a discriminatory practice in the 30's-50's.

In the 80's the argument was white flight was racist and caused housing poverty. Today, young couples are buying urban houses and it is deemed a racist practice of gentrification. How does society ever move forward?

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by Clark

No argument that redlining was a discriminatory practice in the 30's-50's.

In the 80's the argument was white flight was racist and caused housing poverty. Today, young couples are buying urban houses and it is deemed a racist practice of gentrification. How does society ever move forward?

Get rid of white people. Problems solved.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Get rid of white people. Problems solved.

WhITE PrIvIleGe!

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Get rid of white people. Problems solved.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Clark

No argument that redlining was a discriminatory practice in the 30's-50's.

In the 80's the argument was white flight was racist and caused housing poverty. Today, young couples are buying urban houses and it is deemed a racist practice of gentrification. How does society ever move forward?

Education & further investment in social programs. We also need to acknowledge that we are entering into a time in history where there may not be enough good paying jobs to counterbalance the increasing cost of living in many cities.

The concept of 'white flight' is not based on overt racism, it's based on fear of the "other."
Gentrification is not racist, it's classist.

[kevbojones]

Great to see MLB players taking their purity tests on the field tonight. It'll never be enough though. The struggle sessions are coming for us all.

MLB attempting to align itself with a domestic terror organization run by trained Marxists will not end well for them.

Look no further than Mayor Ted Wheeler's very own struggle session in front of the Portland Marxists last night.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Get rid of white people. Problems solved.

The irony of this joke is that only white people who are prejudiced believe this is what progressives & ethnic minorities want.

Someone made a joke earlier that open Trump supporters are stigmatized in many parts of the country.
I'd say that is actually slightly closer to reality than the idea of anti-whiteness.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Education & further investment in social programs. We also need to acknowledge that we are entering into a time in history where there may not be enough good paying jobs to counterbalance the increasing cost of living in many cities.

The concept of 'white flight' is not based on overt racism, it's based on fear of the "other."
Gentrification is not racist, it's classist.

Education has already been deemed systemically racist by black activists. Social programs, I agree there is room there is room for investment.

White Flight-"Fear of the other" is clearly racial. As for gentrification, there is a ton of info arguing that it is more than class given the inherent wealth discrepancy. Google, "racial gentrification".

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Clark

Education has already been deemed systemically racist by black activists. Social programs, I agree there is room there is room for investment.

White Flight-"Fear of the other" is clearly racial. As for gentrification, there is a ton of info arguing that it is more than class given the inherent wealth discrepancy. Google, "racial gentrification".

Well I guess if a few black activists that nobody has ever heard of allegedly said it, it must be representative of everyones beliefs. No education for anyone.

Yes, fear of the other is a major racial issue playing out in the U.S. but it goes back to far more archaic human psychological shortcomings.

My point with gentrification being that it affects anyone living in a gentrifying area. In many circumstances this can mean it affects ethnic minorities, yes.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

The irony of this joke is that only white people who are prejudiced believe this is what progressives & ethnic minorities want.

Someone made a joke earlier that open Trump supporters are stigmatized in many parts of the country.
I'd say that is actually slightly closer to reality than the idea of anti-whiteness.

The NYT says the problem with public education is white parents. You can’t get much more anti-white than that.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

The NYT says the problem with public education is white parents. You can’t get much more anti-white than that.

Link the article. I'll read it and I'll explain it to you.

Noam Chomsky writes about the historical biases of the NYT in his book Manufacturing Consent, so you're not completely off base in being critical of their publications.