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Old 07-14-2020, 10:58 PM   #426
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I'm either gonna sell all 4 of my boxes... or bust 2 and sell 2 to cover the break for free!
You bust one it’s gonna be tough to stop. All the inserts and parallels get addictive really quick.
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:40 AM   #427
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19/20 basketball is purely a flip for anything you buy msrp or drastically underpriced
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:45 AM   #428
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Sounds like selling or holding onto these is a liability with the condition they are coming in. Going to be returned as soon as someone opens them up

What a disappointment
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:48 AM   #429
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Product looks loaded...Congrats to those that locked in cases at any price below $4000 a case.

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I wish I had bought more than 4 cases and a box.

I guess I'm going to have to open a case tonight.

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Old 07-15-2020, 08:52 AM   #430
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Anyone else snapping these up at current aftermarket prices? Curious what the upside might be.
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:58 AM   #431
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Sounds like selling or holding onto these is a liability with the condition they are coming in. Going to be returned as soon as someone opens them up

What a disappointment
Huh? I haven't seen one mention of this. What's your source?
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Old 07-15-2020, 08:59 AM   #432
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Sounds like selling or holding onto these is a liability with the condition they are coming in. Going to be returned as soon as someone opens them up

What a disappointment
No issue here with my 2 cases.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:01 AM   #433
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Huh? I haven't seen one mention of this. What's your source?
He's just trying to throw cold water on this product that is obviously a great value right now.

I just wish there were more singles listed on ebay for me to scoop up.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:08 AM   #434
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Just a report out:

I did finish my 2 cases. I was initially going to sell one but after hitting a Zion and Lebron 1/1, figured to have fun with it. The Lebron is already sold for almost the cost of a case.

The spellbounds are going to be tougher than people think to finish. I completed four names, Davis, Harden, Doncic, and Curry. Very close on Lebron though. If anyone would like to trade extras, please PM me.

All in all, I think I hit 10-12 /10 Gold Cards. Three of them being Pen Pal Autos. The majority of my Autos were Pen Pals with Zion being the best, followed by Rui, two Coby Whites, and a Herro. I hit three Passing the Torches (White/Gillmore x2, and Sabonis)

I ended up hitting 4 Morant Parallels, /299, /88 Aspirations, and 2x /49 and only two Zions /299 and /49.

Coalition on the #d stuff is pretty bad. I have multiples of the same rookie/vet Parallels.

Conclusion: This is a very short printed product with a high floor/high ceiling for anyone who bought at dutch auction. It was one of the most fun cases of basketball product I've ever opened, up there with 2009-10 Topps Jumbo for me. You just have so much value possible in each box.

Please let me know if anyone has any questions or is looking for #d rookie/vet lots and autos.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:40 AM   #435
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Interested in any #d Thybulle

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Old 07-15-2020, 09:42 AM   #436
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Just a report out:

I did finish my 2 cases. I was initially going to sell one but after hitting a Zion and Lebron 1/1, figured to have fun with it. The Lebron is already sold for almost the cost of a case.

The spellbounds are going to be tougher than people think to finish. I completed four names, Davis, Harden, Doncic, and Curry. Very close on Lebron though. If anyone would like to trade extras, please PM me.

All in all, I think I hit 10-12 /10 Gold Cards. Three of them being Pen Pal Autos. The majority of my Autos were Pen Pals with Zion being the best, followed by Rui, two Coby Whites, and a Herro. I hit three Passing the Torches (White/Gillmore x2, and Sabonis)

I ended up hitting 4 Morant Parallels, /299, /88 Aspirations, and 2x /49 and only two Zions /299 and /49.

Coalition on the #d stuff is pretty bad. I have multiples of the same rookie/vet Parallels.

Conclusion: This is a very short printed product with a high floor/high ceiling for anyone who bought at dutch auction. It was one of the most fun cases of basketball product I've ever opened, up there with 2009-10 Topps Jumbo for me. You just have so much value possible in each box.

Please let me know if anyone has any questions or is looking for #d rookie/vet lots and autos.
Thanks for the report. Pulling 7 Zion/Ja cards out of 24 boxes is pretty amazing. I think that I had calculated the odds of pulling a Ja and/or Zion at around 1 in every 4-5 boxes so you did a little better than that.

The Spellbounds are really nice looking cards. I'm going to try to go after the Lebron JAMES. I pulled the M out of my one box so only 4 more to go
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:51 AM   #437
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Finally a well informed sourced post thanks for this! Man I can't wait to get my 4 tomorrow!!!!

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Just a report out:

I did finish my 2 cases. I was initially going to sell one but after hitting a Zion and Lebron 1/1, figured to have fun with it. The Lebron is already sold for almost the cost of a case.

The spellbounds are going to be tougher than people think to finish. I completed four names, Davis, Harden, Doncic, and Curry. Very close on Lebron though. If anyone would like to trade extras, please PM me.

All in all, I think I hit 10-12 /10 Gold Cards. Three of them being Pen Pal Autos. The majority of my Autos were Pen Pals with Zion being the best, followed by Rui, two Coby Whites, and a Herro. I hit three Passing the Torches (White/Gillmore x2, and Sabonis)

I ended up hitting 4 Morant Parallels, /299, /88 Aspirations, and 2x /49 and only two Zions /299 and /49.

Coalition on the #d stuff is pretty bad. I have multiples of the same rookie/vet Parallels.

Conclusion: This is a very short printed product with a high floor/high ceiling for anyone who bought at dutch auction. It was one of the most fun cases of basketball product I've ever opened, up there with 2009-10 Topps Jumbo for me. You just have so much value possible in each box.

Please let me know if anyone has any questions or is looking for #d rookie/vet lots and autos.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:18 AM   #438
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Huh? I haven't seen one mention of this. What's your source?
I have over 100 cards ready for a PSA order. There are no condition issues.
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:21 AM   #439
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Just a report out:

I did finish my 2 cases. I was initially going to sell one but after hitting a Zion and Lebron 1/1, figured to have fun with it. The Lebron is already sold for almost the cost of a case.

The spellbounds are going to be tougher than people think to finish. I completed four names, Davis, Harden, Doncic, and Curry. Very close on Lebron though. If anyone would like to trade extras, please PM me.

All in all, I think I hit 10-12 /10 Gold Cards. Three of them being Pen Pal Autos. The majority of my Autos were Pen Pals with Zion being the best, followed by Rui, two Coby Whites, and a Herro. I hit three Passing the Torches (White/Gillmore x2, and Sabonis)

I ended up hitting 4 Morant Parallels, /299, /88 Aspirations, and 2x /49 and only two Zions /299 and /49.

Coalition on the #d stuff is pretty bad. I have multiples of the same rookie/vet Parallels.

Conclusion: This is a very short printed product with a high floor/high ceiling for anyone who bought at dutch auction. It was one of the most fun cases of basketball product I've ever opened, up there with 2009-10 Topps Jumbo for me. You just have so much value possible in each box.

Please let me know if anyone has any questions or is looking for #d rookie/vet lots and autos.
I'm a letter "O" Spellbound card #11 from completing Giannis. You didn't get a spare you would be willing to move did you?
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Old 07-15-2020, 10:26 AM   #440
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I'm a letter "O" Spellbound card #11 from completing Giannis. You didn't get a spare you would be willing to move did you?
Sorry, dont have that one. Wish I could help.
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Old 07-15-2020, 11:53 AM   #441
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My 2 Boxes just came in .definitely gonna rip mine
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Old 07-15-2020, 12:02 PM   #442
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Wish the Spellbounds were vertical
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Old 07-15-2020, 01:19 PM   #443
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Just wanted to update on the Red print run calculations now that we've seen enough boxes opened. Plus Sambruin98 got me thinking and I knew I had to recalculate.

First off, the Rookie's #/299 do not count towards your 8 parallels (which is sweet). I pulled a total of 8 additional parallels out of my box on top of the two rookies #/299.

Therefore, based on all of the parallel print runs and an assumed box count of 7,475 the print run for the Red's should be 139.66.

Here is how:
38,850 #'d parallels (not Red)/7,475 boxes = 5.1973244/box
8 parallels/box - 5.1973244 #'d/box = 2.8026756/box that are unnumbered (aka. Red's)
2.8026756 Red's/box x 7,475 boxes = 20,950 Reds/150 players = 139.66 print run

The only hiccup to this is it appears that maybe the insert parallels count as one of your 8 parallels. If that's the case, then there are 1,100 insert parallels (gold and black versions) which would lower the Red print run slightly.

Here is how:
39,950 #'d parallels (not Red)/7,475 boxes = 5.3444816/box
8 parallels/box - 5.3444816 #'d/box = 2.6555184/box that are unnumbered (aka. Red's)
2.6555184 Red's/box x 7,475 boxes = 19,850 Reds/150 players = 132.33 print run

So either way it's higher than the anticipated 40 but who cares, you're getting essentially 10 parallels instead of 8

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Old 07-15-2020, 01:33 PM   #444
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Just wanted to update on the Red print run calculations now that we've seen enough boxes opened. Plus Sambruin98 got me thinking and I knew I had to recalculate.

First off, the Rookie's #/299 do not count towards your 8 parallels (which is sweet). I pulled a total of 8 additional parallels out of my box on top of the two rookies #/299.

Therefore, based on all of the parallel print runs and an assumed box count of 7,475 the print run for the Red's should be 139.66.

Here is how:
38,850 #'d parallels (not Red)/7,475 boxes = 5.1973244/box
8 parallels/box - 5.1973244 #'d/box = 2.8026756/box that are unnumbered (aka. Red's)
2.8026756 Red's/box x 7,475 boxes = 20,950 Reds/150 players = 139.66 print run

So higher than anticipated but who cares, you're getting essentially 10 parallels instead of 8
Sounds about right. I think I averaged about 3 per box, I should of played closer attention to this.
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Old 07-15-2020, 01:41 PM   #445
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My one box should be delivered today and based on the luck I just had with my two boxes of Bundealiga Chrome I may just have to open the box and hope the heater is still going strong.
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Old 07-15-2020, 01:59 PM   #446
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Mannnnn I wish I would've bought more than 2 boxes of this stuff. Not done with my 2nd box but so far my top hits





and the big one to me



I'll be posting the full results when I'm done in the box break thread. Also pulled an Aldridge numbered to 12 and a Giannis Red
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Old 07-15-2020, 02:36 PM   #447
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And one more nice hit to finish my break


Not bad at all for two boxes! The Gold Giannis, Ja, and Herro were from the same box
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Old 07-15-2020, 03:12 PM   #448
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just bought 4 boxes aftermarket cus i got the itch to rip and this seems like it has good value
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Old 07-15-2020, 03:28 PM   #449
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just bought 4 boxes aftermarket cus i got the itch to rip and this seems like it has good value
what did they run you if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 07-15-2020, 03:33 PM   #450
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just bought 4 boxes aftermarket cus i got the itch to rip and this seems like it has good value
I just did the same, but I only bought one because I‘m a small timer...I just have fun trying out as many different products as I can. And looking at the break results here we’re making me jealous!

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what did they run you if you don't mind me asking?
I paid $400 for mine...seems like a decent deal and I’m sure these will only trend up.
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