2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 1045

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I think that's awesome... because if I was on a dating site and saw a woman who had some sort of political garbage in her profile one way or the other, I'd know to swipe in the direction of "pass."

You and me both!!!! All women are crazy, I don't need anymore crazy in the mix for an over the top partisan person (either side btw)

rman112 · 07-10-2020, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Nothing of value has been said in the past, maybe... 3 days? Usually we get a page or two of good dialogue, but nada lately.

When nothing is happening, the more stern anti-Trump people get antsy, and start ranting / going off the deep end. They need an outlet to vent.

Lonewolf · 07-10-2020, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rman112

This is pointless. You start with vague terms/designations (I don't know, who knows, mental deficiencies), and then expect answers based on that vagueness. Do better, or just stop altogether.

If I valued your opinion, I would dignify it with a relevant and appropriate response.

rman112 · 07-10-2020, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

If I valued your opinion, I would dignify it with a relevant and appropriate response.

Another notch or two, and you'll go full TheHeel.

mike1498 · 07-10-2020, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

I had 3 friends (one really close one I knew for a long time and helped him with his business from the ground up) that called me names, swore at me and said horrible things - then blocked my phone number...

All because I didn't support Trump (and this occurred in the last 2 months)

Being single - if you go on dating sites now, women post in the opening line:
"If you do not support Trump do not message me"

or

"If you support Trump, do not message me"

We are SO polarized - and I absolutely blame this on Trump and the current GOP

I congratulate you for being brainwashed. If you think it's solely Trump you need to stop watching CNN because you're rotting your brain with liberal propaganda.

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

I congratulate you for being brainwashed. If you think it's solely Trump you need to stop watching CNN because you're rotting your brain with liberal propaganda.

I guess you didn't read my subsequent posts......

techtre2003 · 07-10-2020, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by discostu

To state that voting for Trump makes you racist is pretty asinine.

There's not a single person in Washington that doesn't have bumps and bruises that make us cringe, no matter the side of the aisle.

Generally, lumping "fringe" politicians (thinking the Steve King and Ilhan Omar polarizing types) as somehow representative of a party as a whole is problematic.

Now of course, Trump is far more than a fringe party representative...he is the figurehead so it does come with extra weight. Even still, lumping Trump voters (or his fanatical base) as racist is wildly incorrect. Are some racist? Sure. Are some not racist? Sure.

We need to move away from the outlier generalizations when it comes to everything.

Thank you. As a Trump voter I sincerely appreciate that coming from a non-Trump voter.

JeremyNick · 07-10-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

I congratulate you for being brainwashed. If you think it's solely Trump you need to stop watching CNN because you're rotting your brain with liberal propaganda.

I agree. This divisiveness started before 2016. It became cemented and normal during Obama’s presidency. It was much more low key during the Bush/Clinton years.

mike1498 · 07-10-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

I guess you didn't read my subsequent posts......

I did not. I also didn't need to unless later on you say that it's also the left that caused this divisiveness. Anything else and you're from cookoo town.

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I agree. This divisiveness started before 2016. It became cemented and normal during Obama’s presidency. It was much more low key during the Bush/Clinton years.

I will have to respectfully disagree with you - Obama wasn't constantly calling people names, railing against the GOP, crying that the media was on him, crying about the constant bombardment against him by the GOP that hated him.......

pac213up · 07-10-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I agree. This divisiveness started before 2016. It became cemented and normal during Obama’s presidency. It was much more low key during the Bush/Clinton years.

I would point it at the Obama- McConnell relationship. To me that seemed to escalate things on both sides.

rman112 · 07-10-2020, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNick

I agree. This divisiveness started before 2016. It became cemented and normal during Obama’s presidency. It was much more low key during the Bush/Clinton years.

Yep. Racial tensions, specifically, were a big deal towards the end of Obama's tenure.

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

I did not. I also didn't need to unless later on you say that it's also the left that caused this divisiveness. Anything else and you're from cookoo town.

Not from kookoo town - I am a free thinker. I am educated (maybe that is bad in these times - who knows) and I am not brain washed. I actually read Fox News more than I do CNN...... sorry to burst your bubble on that one.

As an American I hold the position of the POTUS in the highest of high regard. I respect the position (always will) but I currently do not respect the man in that position.

NeedChapmans · 07-10-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

I will have to respectfully disagree with you - Obama wasn't constantly calling people names, railing against the GOP, crying that the media was on him, crying about the constant bombardment against him by the GOP that hated him.......

All Obama did was use the Justice department to spy on Fox News journalists guys ... comon ... no biggie!

rman112 · 07-10-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

I will have to respectfully disagree with you - Obama wasn't constantly calling people names, railing against the GOP, crying that the media was on him, crying about the constant bombardment against him by the GOP that hated him.......

Are you implying that the media was 'on him' in the same way they are/have been 'on' Trump, and anything/everything they associate with him?

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

All Obama did was use the Justice department to spy on Fox News journalists guys ... comon ... no biggie!

And Trump asked for and got foreign help to win an election....... no biggie there either.

mike1498 · 07-10-2020, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

I will have to respectfully disagree with you - Obama wasn't constantly calling people names, railing against the GOP, crying that the media was on him, crying about the constant bombardment against him by the GOP that hated him.......

What would you call events like Ferguson then? I'm not saying it is Obama's fault but regardless of what you'd like to believe, the division was there before Trump was.

I really have only been alive long enough to witness both terms of Obama and Trump and I personally don't feel there was ever a time of unrest. I really didn't ever experience the Bush years because between ages 1-9, you aren't aware of politics. So as someone who is only use to this divisiveness I don't agree with you.

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

Are you implying that the media was 'on him' in the same way they are/have been 'on' Trump, and anything/everything they associate with him?

Not implying - I am saying - Fox tried on the daily to destroy Obama with anything he said, did or wore.

I understand why Fox did it - money ... also made for good TV at times

LVDan · 07-10-2020, 12:04 PM

Both parties and their lapdog media outlets have done a great job telling the country how right they are and how wrong the other side is. Pretty easy to determine how culpable they all are in effectively dividing the country into two piles of brainwashed idiots. Any cross- aisle “ free thinking” is usually shot down as “commie talk” or “racist rhetoric”. It’s just much easier to say you’re either for us or against us than to actually promote research and independant thought on individual issues.
They’re winning big time.

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NeedChapmans · 07-10-2020, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

And Trump asked for and got foreign help to win an election....... no biggie there either.

One is nonsense, one is proven fact.

You say things are too polarized and yet you're willing to stick 100% of rumor and accusation to people you don't like. The country is too polarized because you choose to polarize it.

rman112 · 07-10-2020, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

Not implying - I am saying - Fox tried on the daily to destroy Obama with anything he said, did or wore.

I understand why Fox did it - money ... also made for good TV at times

Either I am reading you wrong, or does that not really answer the question.

Put simply:

Obama and Trump's treatment by the media. Equal? More favorable to Trump? More favorable to Obama?

Don't forget you listed the ONE major news outlet that sides with Republicans.. out of what? Four? Five?

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike1498

What would you call events like Ferguson then? I'm not saying it is Obama's fault but regardless of what you'd like to believe, the division where there before Trump was.

I really have only been alive long enough to witness both terms of Obama and Trump and I personally don't feel there was ever a time of unrest. I really didn't ever experience the Bush years because between ages 1-9, you aren't aware of politics. So as someone who is only use to this divisiveness I don't agree with you.

Thank you for clarifying and I respect that.

I was born in 72 and lived through the Reagan years, although young - I still believe he did a good job, at that time for the climate.
I wasn't a fan of Bush Sr
I did like Clinton
I liked Bush Jr and believe the speech he gave Sept 11, 2001 was one of the best I had ever heard.
I liked Obama

So there you have it - you know who I voted for in the elections I could vote for

I get my news from many different outlets before I try and form an opinion. I will agree I lean left - however that does not mean I agree with it all.....

TheHeel · 07-10-2020, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Can you give any examples of policies the President champions that favors one race over another?

It's not about just race but across the spectrum.

I will keep this simple and short because I will not be here at some points during day.

LGBTQ+
https://transequality.org/the-discri...administration

Race
Travel ban on several predominantly Muslim countries
The Wall - coupled with calling Mexicans drug dealers, murderers, and rapists. Bad hombres
Immigration detention (over the top with separating families)
DACA

Again, these are the few of the backwards policies that Trump has initiated.

I am going to go play with my kids. See all later.

Jgil316 · 07-10-2020, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

One is nonsense, one is proven fact.

You say things are too polarized and yet you're willing to stick 100% of rumor and accusation to people you don't like. The country is too polarized because you choose to polarize it.

Mueller proved it - so are you saying the DoJ spying on Fox hosts as nonsense?

NeedChapmans · 07-10-2020, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHeel

It's not about just race but across the spectrum.

I will keep this simple and short because I will be here all day.

LGBTQ+
https://transequality.org/the-discri...administration

Race
Travel ban on several predominantly Muslim countries
The Wall - coupled with calling Mexicans drug dealers, murderers, and rapists. Bad hombres
Immigration detention (over the top with separating families)
DACA

Again, these are the few of the backwards policies that Trump has initiated.

I am going to go play with my kids. See all later.

Trump doing excellent work. The link you posted ... wow. That sir, is a list of accomplishments.

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LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,637	Both parties and their lapdog media outlets have done a great job telling the country how right they are and how wrong the other side is. Pretty easy to determine how culpable they all are in effectively dividing the country into two piles of brainwashed idiots. Any cross- aisle “ free thinking” is usually shot down as “commie talk” or “racist rhetoric”. It’s just much easier to say you’re either for us or against us than to actually promote research and independant thought on individual issues. They’re winning big time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.