2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[jk1937]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Which BLM are you talking about? They're not the most organized group of people and I honestly can't find a speaker for this group.

I can find DNC chairs, I can name the Tea Party caucus members, I can find the RNC speakers.

I can't find anything for BLM.

YOU may have ascribed the group certain characteristics, but I can't find anything.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

Here are their goals. I guess they're left leaning, though I don't really see any nuance in what they're saying so I can ascribe whatever I see fits to their platform. What is "Black Immigration" and which party is pushing that one? Never heard of it.

you don't see a lot of aniti biden sentiments at the blm protests but you absolutely see anti trump messages, that tells me which way most of them lean politically

[rman112]

At the next BLM rally, send two white guys. One with a Biden 2020 sign, the other a Trump 2020 sign. Chart the crowd reactions.

[yanksfan1]

Do you think there could be any electoral consequences of some colleges and universities not re-opening/only partial re-opening this falls? I only bring this up because of my own experience, I went to college outside of my district so I did not vote in any elections for my first three years and then I requested an absentee for the 2016 election in my senior year. I have a feeling that a lot of out-of-state/out-of-district students simply don't request absentee ballots because they have to pro-actively take action to get one, but if colleges don't re-open in the fall and they are home in their districts, they will be much more likely to vote. I would have been more more likely to vote in local/midterm elections if I was physically in my district. I don't think I need to tell you which candidate this would help this fall.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I don't think many if any on the right will have a meltdown if Biden wins. Nearly all of the emotion comes from the left; it's part of the buy in. Many on the right lack it, so they'll shrug their shoulders, complain under their breath and move on w/ their lives.

They've been called the silent majority for the last 4 years. Silent is apt.

I couldn't agree more. Protesters from the left go over board in their march towards their causes. Many, not all but many, on the left persecute anyone who does not believe in their causes. Look at what they have done to business owners who, because of religious reasons, would not provide marriage services (catering, floral....) to gay couples. Look at what they have done to people who provided support (money) to Trumps campaign. They actively seek these people out and do everything in their power to ruin their lives. Going as far as to post the peoples names and addresses online. They have even been encouraged to do so by democrats currently in office. These are just 2 examples I can think of off the top of my head. Sounds like real tolerance. Especially from a group who preaches tolerance.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by marl1220

I couldn't agree more. Protesters from the left go over board in their march towards their causes. Many, not all but many, on the left persecute anyone who does not believe in their causes. Look at what they have done to business owners who, because of religious reasons, would not provide marriage services (catering, floral....) to gay couples. Look at what they have done to people who provided support (money) to Trumps campaign. They actively seek these people out and do everything in their power to ruin their lives. Going as far as to post the peoples names and addresses online. They have even been encouraged to do so by democrats currently in office. These are just 2 examples I can think of off the top of my head. Sounds like real tolerance. Especially from a group who preaches tolerance.

Trump should say that tolerance is a Democratic hoax.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Well you tried. I'll give you that. Your analogy makes not one iota of sense but good effort.

You have to be trolling. I honestly don't think I could find a single person in this country who is confused as to the political leanings of BLM.

And I don't think I can find one person in this country that can quantify BLMs political positions. In fairness, BLM hasn't qualified them either.

I mean, I guess I linked them, but again I can ascribe the stance to a Republican or Democrat.

• Racial Injustice
• Police Brutality
• Criminal Justice Reform
• Black Immigration
• Economic Injustice
• LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
• Environmental Conditions
• Voting Rights & Suppression
• Healthcare
• Government Corruption
• Education
• Commonsense Gun Laws

There's the list from their website. I guess those are left leaning ideals

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Scarlett Johansson in the news.

Johansson is signed on to provide the motion-capture footage and guttural roars for artists to generate CGI of the legendary desert worm. Critics claim that by agreeing to portray a character other than a white, cisgendered female, Johansson is ignoring the life experiences and struggles of other genders, races, and species of colossal desert-dwelling worm creatures living on the planet Arrakis.

“Scarlett really needs to stay in her lane,” said a representative for the Sandworm Actor’s Guild of America. “Until you’ve lived it, you can’t possibly understand what it truly means to live underground generating spice. Back off, girl!”

“Sandworms suffer exploitation from Fremen tribes stealing their spice every single day, and Johansson feels she can just come in and act like a sandworm, like she’s an actor or something,” he added. “We will not stand for this. We want more film roles, no matter how qualified Johansson is for the part.”

“The roles must flow,” he added ominously.

Sandworm actors across the country began refusing to generate spice until Johansson agrees to remove herself from the film, sources confirmed at publishing time.

https://babylonbee.com/news/scarlett...une-adaptation

I have to admit that I had to google what this means.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by rman112

Trump should say that tolerance is a Democratic hoax.

They have loads of tolerance. As long as you think the way they do.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

And I don't think I can find one person in this country that can quantify BLMs political positions. In fairness, BLM hasn't qualified them either.

I mean, I guess I linked them, but again I can ascribe the stance to a Republican or Democrat.

• Racial Injustice
• Police Brutality
• Criminal Justice Reform
• Black Immigration
• Economic Injustice
• LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
• Environmental Conditions
• Voting Rights & Suppression
• Healthcare
• Government Corruption
• Education
• Commonsense Gun Laws

There's the list from their website. I guess those are left leaning ideals

Do you really believe in the argument that you're making?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by marl1220

They have loads of tolerance. As long as you think the way they do.

I think that's fascism.

It's funny. I googled 'fascism'. It's defined as 'far-right'. Funny how that works.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by rman112

Do you really believe in the argument that you're making?

He does.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

Do you really believe in the argument that you're making?

I haven't seen any counter to anything, just quips like the above. Which is fine.

It seems like many WANT to attach political beliefs to the group, but nobody can quantify the group.

Who speaks for BLM? What is the political organization? Does BLM = the looters/rioters?

For pretty much everybody here, those things are all equal because it's easy. Doesn't mean it's correct. It would be pretty easy to just lay it out, yet nobody can

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by rman112

I think that's fascism.

It's funny. I googled 'fascism'. It's defined as 'far-right'. Funny how that works.

I do have to admit that the left rarely gets as violent as the "Right to Life" crowd. But that crowd doesn't pop up much in recent years.


I have to correct myself. I forgot all about Antifa and environmental groups.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

And I don't think I can find one person in this country that can quantify BLMs political positions. In fairness, BLM hasn't qualified them either.

I mean, I guess I linked them, but again I can ascribe the stance to a Republican or Democrat.

• Racial Injustice
• Police Brutality
• Criminal Justice Reform
• Black Immigration
• Economic Injustice
• LGBTQIA+ and Human Rights
• Environmental Conditions
• Voting Rights & Suppression
• Healthcare
• Government Corruption
• Education
• Commonsense Gun Laws

There's the list from their website. I guess those are left leaning ideals

Forgot this one:

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I haven't seen any counter to anything, just quips like the above.

It seems like many WANT to attach political beliefs to the group, but nobody can quantify the group.

Who speaks for BLM? What is the political organization? Does BLM = the looters/rioters?

For pretty much everybody here, those things are all equal because it's easy. Doesn't mean it's correct. It would be pretty easy to just lay it out, yet nobody can

Maybe we can test the theory. Have someone go to a rally and proclaim their support for Biden. Have someone go to the same rally and proclaim their support for Trump. We all know how that'd go.

I think you're just arguing to argue on this one.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Forgot this one:

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

It wasn't listed on their "campaign goals".

Don't blame me, I didn't make the site!

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Forgot this one:

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

And I call BS on this one. I have never seen them do anything to address the Arab Slave Trade of Africans that goes on to this very day.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Which BLM are you talking about? They're not the most organized group of people and I honestly can't find a speaker for this group.

I can find DNC chairs, I can name the Tea Party caucus members, I can find the RNC speakers.

I can't find anything for BLM.

YOU may have ascribed the group certain characteristics, but I can't find anything.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

Here are their goals. I guess they're left leaning, though I don't really see any nuance in what they're saying so I can ascribe whatever I see fits to their platform. What is "Black Immigration" and which party is pushing that one? Never heard of it.

Originally Posted by rman112

Maybe we can test the theory. Have someone go to a rally and proclaim their support for Biden. Have someone go to the same rally and proclaim their support for Trump. We all know how that'd go.

I think you're just arguing to argue on this one.

When is the next BLM rally? I wore my MAGA hat while they were out at the capitol in Austin (I needed to drop some stuff off) and was fine. Nobody said a word to me and I was even given a water.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I haven't seen any counter to anything, just quips like the above. Which is fine.

It seems like many WANT to attach political beliefs to the group, but nobody can quantify the group.

Who speaks for BLM? What is the political organization? Does BLM = the looters/rioters?

For pretty much everybody here, those things are all equal because it's easy. Doesn't mean it's correct. It would be pretty easy to just lay it out, yet nobody can

98.6% of BLM political donations have gone to democrats. But I'm sure you already knew that. Feel free to move the goalposts again.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

When is the next BLM rally? I wore my MAGA hat while they were out at the capitol in Austin (I needed to drop some stuff off) and was fine. Nobody said a word to me and I was even given a water.

I'm sure you did.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

And I call BS on this one. I have never seen them do anything to address the Arab Slave Trade of Africans that goes on to this very day.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

How does burning down and looting your communities accomplish this?

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Forgot this one:

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

Or:

We support the tactic of turning a blind eye to the issue of "Black on Black" crime.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

It wasn't listed on their "campaign goals".

Don't blame me, I didn't make the site!

https://blacklivesmatter.com/blms-wh...als-and-focus/

While I *think* I appreciate what you're doing ... the founders are Marxists, period. They were five years ago, and there's no evidence that their views have changed.

https://disrn.com/news/video-surface...ained-marxists

Now, sure, you can argue that the movement could take on different ideals than its founders ... but that's disingenuous at best.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

How does burning down and looting your communities accomplish this?

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

Since when does violence equal peace, comrade?

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by cnewby

98.6% of BLM political donations have gone to democrats. But I'm sure you already knew that. Feel free to move the goalposts again.

I haven't seen that anywhere. You SURE that's correct?

If so I suspect we would have already seen FEC and IRS violations. I haven't seen those either.