If you had to choose only one guy who would you pick? Soto, Acuna or Tatis?

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by pewe

The silver slugger was a farce... he was well below most other candidates... not sure how that one went through

Of course he was an All star - that is fan vote from one of the by far largest media markets... not on field performance


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This is one of the key items you are ignoring. Card prices are greatly influenced by popularity, probably even more so than on-field performance. The list of highly successful on-field performance players whose card prices are extremely low is long and well established. This argument between these players can’t be solely about on-field performance. That ignores one of the key ingredients of how the card market works.

[speedyjg13]

Y'all still have the same opinion?

[pewe]

Dominguez, right???


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[ThoseBackPages]

indeed

[t206blogcom]

Soto! No hesitation there. Best hitter, great attitude, World Series Champion.

[comicbooksgo]

Acuna. Obviously.
Soto can't ever be the youngest player to hit a grand slam in the postseason.
He'll never put up a 40-40 season.
Acuna is a story. He's exciting. He thrashed the Marlins so badly, Urena tried to kill him. Then Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals was mad at him, but couldn't help but make kissy faces at him when he was on 2nd. No one has tried to kill or make kissy faces at Soto.
Acuna has a sidekick. Albies is basically Bucky to his Captain America. Best bromance in baseball.

Who can change the momentum of a game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Soto.

Acuna wins. Brutality.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Acuna. Obviously.
Soto can't ever be the youngest player to hit a grand slam in the postseason.
He'll never put up a 40-40 season.
Acuna is a story. He's exciting. He thrashed the Marlins so badly, Urena tried to kill him. Then Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals was mad at him, but couldn't help but make kissy faces at him when he was on 2nd. No one has tried to kill or make kissy faces at Soto.
Acuna has a sidekick. Albies is basically Bucky to his Captain America. Best bromance in baseball.

Who can change the momentum of a game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Soto.

Acuna wins. Brutality.

I feel like you need to make this into a poem


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[comicbooksgo]

haha! Dude! Right after I typed it I seriously thought it would make a good song if I made it rhyme.

Originally Posted by pewe

I feel like you need to make this into a poem


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[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Acuna. Obviously.
Soto can't ever be the youngest player to hit a grand slam in the postseason.
He'll never put up a 40-40 season.
Acuna is a story. He's exciting. He thrashed the Marlins so badly, Urena tried to kill him. Then Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals was mad at him, but couldn't help but make kissy faces at him when he was on 2nd. No one has tried to kill or make kissy faces at Soto.
Acuna has a sidekick. Albies is basically Bucky to his Captain America. Best bromance in baseball.

Who can change the momentum of a game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Soto.

Acuna wins. Brutality.

Bryce Harper did the same. Doesnt say much. The Marlins are weak. Definitely not a team you brag about dominating.

[comicbooksgo]

The brag was more about the inspired contempt, not the skill level of the joke of a team the Marlins are.

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Bryce Harper did the same. Doesnt say much. The Marlins are weak. Definitely not a team you brag about dominating.

[MaeseChrome]

I'm taking Acuña, personally.

[dogzman]

Soto all day long!

[adamwanaselja]

Acuna has the highest potential ceiling but Soto is by far the safer bet. More mature, superior plate discipline and a year younger. I don’t think anyone would be shocked if Acuna settles into a .275 35 100 guy with 15-20 SBs but he could also go 50/30 in 2021.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by adamwanaselja

Acuna has the highest potential ceiling but Soto is by far the safer bet. More mature, superior plate discipline and a year younger. I don’t think anyone would be shocked if Acuna settles into a .275 35 100 guy with 15-20 SBs but he could also go 50/30 in 2021.

Interesting you mention ceiling... I asked this when many folks said this in the Acuna thread, and got no response... perhaps someone can help me here

What drives the impression Acuna has a higher ceiling? Is it:
— skills more likely to result in a “better” career (maybe measured by WAR?)?
— will hit more HR + steal more bases and that is all that matters to collectors?
— Braves have a larger fan base?
— more enjoyable personality that causes people to follow him?
— other?


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[BraveAtlanta]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Acuna. Obviously.
Soto can't ever be the youngest player to hit a grand slam in the postseason.
He'll never put up a 40-40 season.
Acuna is a story. He's exciting. He thrashed the Marlins so badly, Urena tried to kill him. Then Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals was mad at him, but couldn't help but make kissy faces at him when he was on 2nd. No one has tried to kill or make kissy faces at Soto.
Acuna has a sidekick. Albies is basically Bucky to his Captain America. Best bromance in baseball.

Who can change the momentum of a game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Soto.

Acuna wins. Brutality.

Couldn’t have said it any better. Acuna and it’s not close.

[adamwanaselja]

[QUOTE=pewe;16031362]Interesting you mention ceiling... I asked this when many folks said this in the Acuna thread, and got no response... perhaps someone can help me here

What drives the impression Acuna has a higher ceiling? Is it:
— skills more likely to result in a “better” career (maybe measured by WAR?)?
— will hit more HR + steal more bases and that is all that matters to collectors?
— Braves have a larger fan base?
— more enjoyable personality that causes people to follow him?
— other?

The speed/power combo. I think that’s what drives the hype. I think plate discipline/power is a skill that is equally rare and tends to decline the least as a player ages. As a Met fan I watch both players a lot and Soto’s skill set Is absurd. .400 OBP in his age 19 and 20 year old seasons.

[adamwanaselja]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Acuna. Obviously.
Soto can't ever be the youngest player to hit a grand slam in the postseason.
He'll never put up a 40-40 season.
Acuna is a story. He's exciting. He thrashed the Marlins so badly, Urena tried to kill him. Then Carlos Martinez of the Cardinals was mad at him, but couldn't help but make kissy faces at him when he was on 2nd. No one has tried to kill or make kissy faces at Soto.
Acuna has a sidekick. Albies is basically Bucky to his Captain America. Best bromance in baseball.

Who can change the momentum of a game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Soto.

Acuna wins. Brutality.

Acuna has never had a 40/40 season and a postseason Grand Slam is great and all but did you watch last years postseason? Soto also has a ring already. To say Soto can’t change the momentum of a game with a swing is ludicrous. He did it 3 or 4 times last postseason on his way to a title.

[pewe]

[QUOTE=adamwanaselja;16031435]

Originally Posted by pewe

Interesting you mention ceiling... I asked this when many folks said this in the Acuna thread, and got no response... perhaps someone can help me here

What drives the impression Acuna has a higher ceiling? Is it:
— skills more likely to result in a “better” career (maybe measured by WAR?)?
— will hit more HR + steal more bases and that is all that matters to collectors?
— Braves have a larger fan base?
— more enjoyable personality that causes people to follow him?
— other?

The speed/power combo. I think that’s what drives the hype. I think plate discipline/power is a skill that is equally rare and tends to decline the least as a player ages. As a Met fan I watch both players a lot and Soto’s skill set Is absurd. .400 OBP in his age 19 and 20 year old seasons.

Cool! I wonder what it is about the power / speed combo... speed players generally get limited love... power + discipline is rarer / harder than power + speed...

Anyway, Acuna is great, so kind of a random question, I guess


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[adamwanaselja]

[QUOTE=pewe;16031482]

Originally Posted by adamwanaselja

Cool! I wonder what it is about the power / speed combo... speed players generally get limited love... power + discipline is rarer / harder than power + speed...

Anyway, Acuna is great, so kind of a random question, I guess


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Yeah, it also comes down to personal preference. What kind of players do you like? Things like that.

Acuna reminds me of Hanley Ramirez. Both with as much talent as baseball has ever seen but both lapse into moments of laziness and immaturity on the field that scares me as a collector.

[brewtown107]

Soto. Obviously.

Acuna will never hit 3 home runs in the World Series in his age 20 season. Acuna has never even been to the World Series.

Soto will never put up a 40/40 season, but then again, Acuna hasn't done that either. Funny how so much of Acuna's hype comes from something he failed to actually do.

Soto is a story. Exciting! He's got elite command of the strike zone, and he'll let you know it. The Soto shuffle gets people talking. It's proof positive that Soto doesn't lack for swagger.

Soto came up huge in huge moments in the playoffs. He sent Milwaukee home with a huge hit, and kept the hits rolling from there.

Who can change the momentum of a World Series game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Acuna. Again, he needs to get to a World Series first. Meanwhile, Soto has already done this:



Soto wins. Mic drop.

[comicbooksgo]

Originally Posted by adamwanaselja

Acuna has never had a 40/40 season and a postseason Grand Slam is great and all but did you watch last years postseason? Soto also has a ring already. To say Soto can’t change the momentum of a game with a swing is ludicrous. He did it 3 or 4 times last postseason on his way to a title.

You need to re-read what I posted.
Soto won't ever have a 40-40 season. It's very likely that Acuna will have multiple, but he'll definitely do it at least once. I'll give you 5-1 odds if you want to bet on Soto not having one, and Acuna having at least one. Any amount of $. However you want to arbitrate it.
Soto doesn't lead off. That's what was meant by one pitch in the game. Soto does not have the ability to set the tone of a game because he doesn't lead off.
He also doesn't have a Bucky, and Trea Turner is a woman.

[adamwanaselja]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

You need to re-read what I posted.
Soto won't ever have a 40-40 season. It's very likely that Acuna will have multiple, but he'll definitely do it at least once. I'll give you 5-1 odds if you want to bet on Soto not having one, and Acuna having at least one. Any amount of $. However you want to arbitrate it.
Soto doesn't lead off. That's what was meant by one pitch in the game. Soto does not have the ability to set the tone of a game because he doesn't lead off.
He also doesn't have a Bucky, and Trea Turner is a woman.

Noted

[comicbooksgo]

Acuna's girlfriend is way hotter than Trea Turner.

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Soto. Obviously.

Acuna will never hit 3 home runs in the World Series in his age 20 season. Acuna has never even been to the World Series.

Soto will never put up a 40/40 season, but then again, Acuna hasn't done that either. Funny how so much of Acuna's hype comes from something he failed to actually do.

Soto is a story. Exciting! He's got elite command of the strike zone, and he'll let you know it. The Soto shuffle gets people talking. It's proof positive that Soto doesn't lack for swagger.

Soto came up huge in huge moments in the playoffs. He sent Milwaukee home with a huge hit, and kept the hits rolling from there.

Who can change the momentum of a World Series game with one swing on one pitch thrown in the game? Not Acuna. Again, he needs to get to a World Series first. Meanwhile, Soto has already done this:



Soto wins. Mic drop.

[comicbooksgo]

Also, I think Soto is awesome. If the Braves had him in addition to Acuna, I'd be talking about how Soto could smash his way through a room full of Victoria's Secret Angels using his strike zone discipline. I do think Acuna is better because of the power/speed combo, but Soto is a beast in his own right. It's just fun to make fun of the competition especially since we have no games to rib each other about.

[brewtown107]

Originally Posted by comicbooksgo

Acuna's girlfriend is way hotter than Trea Turner.

Lol! I don't know who Acuna's gf is, but I'll grant you that one anyway.

I think Robles was supposed to be Soto's sidekick, but he needs to get his sh!t together. Albies definitely has him beat by a mile!