2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by rman112

Calling the virus a hoax isn't looking too bad right now.

Seriously?

Over 100,000 deaths and you're going to go back to calling it a hoax again because of something else going on at the moment?

C'mon dude

[clocsta2323]

These looters aren't even from the states they are stealing from. I read they are dormant looters who got stirred from hibernation and paid to go commit felonies

a small army living in the tunnels and sewers

[coltsnsox07]

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[rman112]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

Seriously?

Over 100,000 deaths and you're going to go back to calling it a hoax again because of something else going on at the moment?

C'mon dude

The original statement by Trump was never about it not being a real thing, and neither is what I am saying.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

These looters aren't even from the states they are stealing from. I read they are dormant looters who got stirred from hibernation and paid to go commit felonies

a small army living in the tunnels and sewers

Would be curious to see how many were let go from jail recently.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by rman112

The original statement by Trump was never about it not being a real thing, and neither it what I am saying.

C'mon, you know exactly what he was doing, just like he knew what he was doing.

He made an unclear reference about it in relation to a hoax, and what happens?

You see people who are ignoring the staying at home, masks, and distancing guidelines and openly in interviews saying they believe the virus itself is a hoax.

He doesn't care if he knows many of his supporters know the virus itself isn't a hoax, but he knew many of them WOULD view his statement like that and then parrot that and take it as further hate towards the left.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

C'mon, you know exactly what he was doing, just like he knew what he was doing.

He made an unclear reference about it in relation to a hoax, and what happens?

You see people who are ignoring the staying at home, masks, and distancing guidelines and openly in interviews saying they believe the virus itself is a hoax.

He doesn't care if he knows many of his supporters know the virus itself isn't a hoax, but he knew many of them WOULD view his statement like that and then parrot that and take it as further hate towards the left.

We've gone from being encouraged to rat out our neighbor's 20 person gathering to being encouraged to stand right next to hundreds and thousands of people for hours. I call that a hoax.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by rman112

We've gone from being encouraged to rat out our neighbor's 20 person gathering to being encouraged to stand right next to hundreds and thousands of people for hours. I call that a hoax.

100,000+ deaths in 3 months

And that's WITH all the lockdowns, I couldn't fathom what those numbers would be without those measures taking place.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

100,000+ deaths in 3 months

And that's WITH all the lockdowns, I couldn't fathom what those numbers would be without those measures taking place.

You still have no idea what I'm saying.

You're focused on the virus itself. I'm talking about how we're 'supposed' to react to it. I've lost count of how many times the bar has shifted.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by rman112

You still have no idea what I'm saying.

You're focused on the virus itself. I'm talking about how we're 'supposed' to react to it. I've lost count of how many times the bar has shifted.

I know exactly what you're saying, I'm just saying I disagree with it.

I don't agree with the support for the protests right now (again, in terms of the health aspect of it, not the purpose), but that doesn't make the previous messaging and stances on the virus a hoax.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

I know exactly what you're saying, I'm just saying I disagree with it.

I don't agree with the support for the protests right now (again, in terms of the health aspect of it, not the purpose), but that doesn't make the previous messaging and stances on the virus a hoax.

It was never that covid wasn't real.

I don't seem to have heard much about how the protestors are murdering their elderly family members.

Removing Trump from office was priority number one, and it still is. It's not about covid. It's not about racial equality, either.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Onions

I visited Iowa for the first time last year. Loved every minute of it and every person I met. Did not once think of the politics while I was there. Will they look to do the Field of Dreams game in Dyersville next year after the virus crushed it this year?



What do you think of King or his opponent now heading into the election?

Iowa's not too bad. The people overall are very friendly but it's not exactly the most exciting place to live.
I'm sorry but I really don't have any answers for your question about Field of Dreams or the recent election.
I'll say King's been in office long enough. He's a flamethrower and has definitely pissed a lot of people off over the years.
I haven't really followed the local elections as much as I should be. Just kind of burned out from everything going on.
Iowa is a fantastic place to raise a family, but with retirement looming closely for me I'm probably going to be heading south.
I honestly hate Iowa winters and if I never had to live through one again the rest of my life, I'd be ok with that.
Des Moines itself has some fantastic restaurants and lots of cultural things to do and see. I think many would be surprised if they were to spend any time here.
LOL
We're not all farmers.

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[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by rman112

It was never that covid wasn't real.

I don't seem to have heard much about how the protestors are murdering their elderly family members.

Removing Trump from office was priority number one, and it still is. It's not about covid. It's not about racial equality, either.

I have seen them talk about how this is a dangerous time for this, and how many protesters are wearing masks.

But the response about the virus was never about removing Trump and to honestly think that is just flat out embarrassing. The response DESTROYED the economy, nobody in their right mind would say what it has done to the economy was worth it to just try and remove Trump, but it 100% is worth it to try and save potentially millions of lives.

Get out of here with that junk

You love to talk about TDS and use that about people who don't like Trump, but the real TDS is how his supporters think every single thing the Dems and/or left leaning media does is only about being out to get Trump.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by rman112

It was never that covid wasn't real.

I don't seem to have heard much about how the protestors are murdering their elderly family members.

Removing Trump from office was priority number one, and it still is. It's not about covid. It's not about racial equality, either.

Sorry but what are you trying to say exactly? I think I know what you're implying, but please elaborate.

Most importantly what are you trying to accomplish with your rhetoric?

The leftists are in control? You're grabbing at straws.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

I have seen them talk about how this is a dangerous time for this, and how many protesters are wearing masks.

But the response about the virus was never about removing Trump and to honestly think that is just flat out embarrassing. The response DESTROYED the economy, nobody in their right mind would say what it has done to the economy was worth it to just try and remove Trump, but it 100% is worth it to try and save potentially millions of lives.

Get out of here with that junk

You love to talk about TDS and use that about people who don't like Trump, but the real TDS is how his supporters think every single thing the Dems and/or left leaning media does is only about being out to get Trump.

Dude, Cuomo in NY allowed an order of 50 people (50!!) like a week and a half ago. Could you imagine if massive gatherings like this happened for any other cause? Ha. I can only imagine the words that'd be used.

BDB rejecting the National Guard. Why? Because that's what Trump wants.

The virus response and hysterity was absolutely Trump related. You just can't see it because you're always so damn emotional all the time.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Sorry but what are you trying to say exactly? I think I know what you're implying, but please elaborate.

Most importantly what are you trying to accomplish with your rhetoric?

The leftists are in control? You're grabbing at straws.

That removing Trump as President is always the most important goal.

Covid went from the worst thing ever .. to nothing .. as the next crisis was used.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

The leftists are in control? You're grabbing at straws.

Now I don't know the D/R of every city and state, but big cities usually have Democratic leadership. And big cities are where the big problems have been happening the last few days. The city's leaders dictate how things get handled.

[rman112]

Actually, I was wrong. The order Cuomo just issued was 10 people. Ten. That's it. Up to ten people.

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by rman112

That removing Trump as President is always the most important goal.

Covid went from the worst thing ever .. to nothing .. as the next crisis was used.

Yeah but Trump is like Teflon, nothing sticks. The man is resolute and will very likely be re-elected in November.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Most importantly what are you trying to accomplish with your rhetoric?

I use this thread to get things off my chest.

Over and over and over and over I had to listen to how horrible covid was. Just look at the thread on here. Disagreeing was being inherently selfish. Disobeying orders (though I never did), oh boy. Might as well add x amount of murders to your social credit score. You're killing your neighbors. You're sacrificing your elderly family members. And now that there's MASSIVE gatherings all across the country? Eh.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Yeah but Trump is like Teflon, nothing sticks. The man is resolute and will very likely be re-elected in November.

Even if he does win, it doesn't make it any less frustrating.

[majestik101]

I don't believe that the virus is the worst thing ever, I mean it's horrible, but most data I am seeing is that it largely affects the elderly and people with underlying conditions. I'm sure it's been posted before but the goal was to straighten the curve and not overwhelm the hospitals. Both of those things happened and yet here we are in California still in quarantine some 70 days since the official lockdown. Speaking of...

The lockdown in response to the virus was what did in the economy. And that is the worst thing ever. It's absolutely no coincidence that the blossoming economy and low unemployment numbers the country witnessed in February put the fear of God in Democrats. So when the virus finally hit, the blue state elected leaders went so far as to conspire to shut down their states and businesses just long enough to make Trump and his administration the bad guy. Basically all governors and mayors who did not buy in to Trumps policies did all they could to sabotage the economy and create an ugly stain on Trump's economic record, and by extension create distrust in the minds of Americans hoping that it will affect the November election.

So in essence they (and by and large the media) created a mass hysteria that they hoped will stick in voter's minds.

Sadly (for them) I don't think their gamble will work. It will blow over. The economy will bounce back.

As for the looting and ANTIFA presence in the streets (and yes, it is ANTIFA and similarly financially backed extremist groups), well my belief is that the anarchy occurring in the streets is the left-wings next ace in the hole. The narrative is no longer about Mr. Floyd. The narrative is how long until Trump finally says enough is enough and invokes the Insurrection Act of 1807.

It is disturbing to say the least. But there is no limit to what the left will do to regain control.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

I don't believe that the virus is the worst thing ever, I mean it's horrible, but most data I am seeing is that it largely affects the elderly and people with underlying conditions. I'm sure it's been posted before but the goal was to straighten the curve and not overwhelm the hospitals. Both of those things happened and yet here we are in California still in quarantine some 70 days since the official lockdown. Speaking of...

The lockdown in response to the virus was what did in the economy. And that is the worst thing ever. It's absolutely no coincidence that the blossoming economy and low unemployment numbers the country witnessed in February put the fear of God in Democrats. So when the virus finally hit, the blue state elected leaders went so far as to conspire to shut down their states and businesses just long enough to make Trump and his administration the bad guy. Basically all governors and mayors who did not buy in to Trumps policies did all they could to sabotage the economy and create an ugly stain on Trump's economic record, and by extension create distrust in the minds of Americans hoping that it will affect the November election.

So in essence they (and by and large the media) created a mass hysteria that they hoped will stick in voter's minds.

Sadly (for them) I don't think their gamble will work. It will blow over. The economy will bounce back.

As for the looting and ANTIFA presence in the streets (and yes, it is ANTIFA and similarly financially backed extremist groups), well my belief is that the anarchy occurring in the streets is the left-wings next ace in the hole. The narrative is no longer about Mr. Floyd. The narrative is how long until Trump finally says enough is enough and invokes the Insurrection Act of 1807.

It is disturbing to say the least. But there is no limit to what the left will do to regain control.

I googled the Insurrection Act.

The two recent articles that came up were; 1. 'Can Trump legally deploy US troops to US cities?', and 2. 'Donald Trump is Trying to Start a Race War'. Lol

[majestik101]

Originally Posted by rman112

I googled the Insurrection Act.

The two recent articles that came up were; 1. 'Can Trump legally deploy US troops to US cities?', and 2. 'Donald Trump is Trying to Start a Race War'. Lol

I mean that should tell you right there what we are all dealing with. The narrative is being controlled.

Anyways I'm gonna hit the hay. Nice chatting with you rman. Be well and be safe.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by majestik101

I mean that should tell you right there what we are all dealing with. The narrative is being controlled.

Anyways I'm gonna hit the hay. Nice chatting with you rman. Be well and be safe.

Same to you.

I think someone hacked your account tonight.