Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 709

JRX · 05-28-2020, 10:17 AM

Does he know Gywnn is dead?

jayjones82 · 05-28-2020, 10:17 AM

Long-term, I think the people holding Shore Griffeys will be just fine. I bought a few knowing that they'd have a high PR. I don't care. I think it's a fun card and, worst case scenario, I can trade away the others or give them to my nephews if I don't feel like holding for a while. If ya can't make a little $ off of them, enjoy and share the art with other folks!

dbpsooner · 05-28-2020, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think the best approach is to buy the cards you like, and pass on the ones you dont

This is the best advice I could give. At this point, most people that are collecting these cards are already buying them for themselves. If you are buying these new releases simply to sell, I think you will struggle. There will be more people that discover this product and want in but not at the pace the flippers are buying these. The early releases will continue to do great. If you are just getting in now and getting in to make a profit on the new releases, you missed the boat.

CoEnt85 · 05-28-2020, 10:18 AM

Williams 38k
Koufax 47k

Howie7107 · 05-28-2020, 10:20 AM

I really think that people are going to be very surprised by the PR numbers for today's cards. Unless the sneakerbois and everyone else here is still buying 10+ I would be very surprised to see either card over 25K.

phildow · 05-28-2020, 10:20 AM

Keep pumping this up guys, I need to sell $9k worth so I can go buy that Supreme / Mac Tools T5025P Tech Series Workstation to store all the tools I don't have. EDIT: this is sarcasm

From someone who is into cards & streetwear, I 100% support this post:

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think the best approach is to buy the cards you like, and pass on the ones you dont

Buy the cards you actually want, just like shoes - buy them in a size you can wear so you're not left holding the bag when you can't find a buyer at the secondary price you wanted to get.

Snakeonia · 05-28-2020, 10:21 AM

I haven’t a clue on this pr. Curious to see how the flippers react.

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kyle1707 · 05-28-2020, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseysez

I bought 0 Shore Griffeys
<————-loser

You want mine

Bruvydsb · 05-28-2020, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Not to be a dick, but someone new to Project 2020 asked yesterday in the thread when the price on Mays Thiele was going to move because he'd bought it the night before and it had been stuck all day.

People like that losing interest is a good thing to me.

He bought high and was nervous. It's happens. If he didn't have the stomach for it why drop ~$900 on a card?

gamboooler · 05-28-2020, 10:23 AM

Going to guess 30-35k on both today.

auctionjmm · 05-28-2020, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Howie7107

I really think that people are going to be very surprised by the PR numbers for today's cards. Unless the sneakerbois and everyone else here is still buying 10+ I would be very surprised to see either card over 25K.

Williams and Koufax eBay pre-sells are about half of what Ryan sold before 1pm yesterday, and like 20% of what Griffey sold by 1pm yesterday, so if eBay pre-sells are an accurate representation of early demand then I would project both to be in the low 30's, which would be a welcome return to at least some normalcy.

66_Fiat · 05-28-2020, 10:25 AM

PR is going to be way high because they packaged with Tuesdays release. Both over 50K.

Triphunter · 05-28-2020, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Howie7107

I really think that people are going to be very surprised by the PR numbers for today's cards. Unless the sneakerbois and everyone else here is still buying 10+ I would be very surprised to see either card over 25K.

I'm thinking over just because people might have added to their ordered when getting the Griffey since the whole "this is a sure thing mentality" was still the general consensus.

superdan49 · 05-28-2020, 10:26 AM

I think people are underestimating how the Shore Griffey could be the gateway card for a collector into P2020. And guarantee for some of those buyers the Shore Griffey won't be their last P2020 card.

mrmike79 · 05-28-2020, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Howie7107

My guesses for today's PRs:

Williams: 18,568
Koufax: 19,899

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Originally Posted by CoEnt85

Williams 38k
Koufax 47k

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Originally Posted by Howie7107

I really think that people are going to be very surprised by the PR numbers for today's cards. Unless the sneakerbois and everyone else here is still buying 10+ I would be very surprised to see either card over 25K.

I'm more in line with CoEnt85 - prob cut the Griffey/Ryan PR in half and then even lower for yesterdays release.

Howie7107 · 05-28-2020, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Williams and Koufax eBay pre-sells are about half of what Ryan sold before 1pm yesterday, and like 20% of what Griffey sold by 1pm yesterday, so if eBay pre-sells are an accurate representation of early demand then I would project both to be in the low 30's, which would be a welcome return to at least some normalcy.

That's one of the things I was using, but couldn't find an exact number. 30k probably seems more reasonable if you're correct.

houdini · 05-28-2020, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunkbush

So after the apocalypse that was the 100k PR , I decided to look at auctions ending soonest on eBay. I see cards you all bought for $15-$20 going for $125, $400, $865 ect. You people make me sick with your greed.

Griffey Shore was clearly your very first purchase.

FT35 · 05-28-2020, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think the best approach is to buy the cards you like, and pass on the ones you dont

Interesting follow-up question here for cards POST SHORE GRIFFEY...if PR's continue to spike...is the best move to keep buying our card from Topps @ $20? It seems as though that only drives the PR up more, and paying $20 might be too much?

My thought is...once these drop off Topps' site from being able to be purchased, sellers are NOT going to sell many below what they paid for. I know there was a panic purge with Shore Griffey, but I would think that people would wise up and not put themselves in a position to where they are buying @ $14 bulk rates and selling @ $12.50.

From now on, I would think the re-sale floor would be higher, but IF PEOPLE KEEP DOING THAT...I would LOVE to pick these up below Topps bulk rate pricing...

ToddM · 05-28-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Snakeonia

I bought 3 shore griffeys. BRB creating a gofundme page

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lol this is getting expensive

Soxfanguy · 05-28-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by houdini

Griffey Shore was clearly your very first purchase.

Haha love it

Callmethevreez · 05-28-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by houdini

Griffey Shore was clearly your very first purchase.

Is this the rare teardrop variant? It must have sold out when I bought mine!

JVB · 05-28-2020, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by houdini

Griffey Shore was clearly your very first purchase.

Those tears! Hah... I'm dead.

speedyjg13 · 05-28-2020, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by houdini

Griffey Shore was clearly your very first purchase.

Yes!!! This is the best!

SupermanBrandon · 05-28-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Callmethevreez

Is this the rare teardrop variant? It must have sold out when I bought mine!

Bots won again!

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dgr81 · 05-28-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

Does he know Gywnn is dead?

doesn't seem like it

05-28-2020, 10:25 AM	#17712
66_Fiat Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 3,168	PR is going to be way high because they packaged with Tuesdays release. Both over 50K. __________________ There is a difference between best hitter and best player. Paying nicely for 2013 and 2015 TTT Pujols "The Machine" patches!

05-28-2020, 10:26 AM	#17714
superdan49 BODA Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,272	I think people are underestimating how the Shore Griffey could be the gateway card for a collector into P2020. And guarantee for some of those buyers the Shore Griffey won't be their last P2020 card. __________________ Cardboard Detective Emeritus superdan49@protonmail.com — Anonymous Tip-line

05-28-2020, 10:17 AM	#17701
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,104	Does he know Gywnn is dead?

05-28-2020, 10:17 AM	#17702
jayjones82 Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: GA to Germany to TX Posts: 3,487	Long-term, I think the people holding Shore Griffeys will be just fine. I bought a few knowing that they'd have a high PR. I don't care. I think it's a fun card and, worst case scenario, I can trade away the others or give them to my nephews if I don't feel like holding for a while. If ya can't make a little $ off of them, enjoy and share the art with other folks!

05-28-2020, 10:18 AM	#17704
CoEnt85 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 958	Williams 38k Koufax 47k

05-28-2020, 10:20 AM	#17705
Howie7107 Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 3,183 Howie7107	I really think that people are going to be very surprised by the PR numbers for today's cards. Unless the sneakerbois and everyone else here is still buying 10+ I would be very surprised to see either card over 25K.

05-28-2020, 10:21 AM	#17707
Snakeonia Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 2,602	I haven’t a clue on this pr. Curious to see how the flippers react. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-28-2020, 10:23 AM	#17710
gamboooler Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8,064 gamboooler gamboooler	Going to guess 30-35k on both today.