Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by thesupremefiles

Why exactly did everyone buy so much Shore Griffey today? Card is ew IMO. How many people here bought 10 of it just because everyone said to?

They think every card is guaranteed big money no matter what

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by BOT

HA I joined to be able to speak my own opinion. If you think tenure on a forum means anything I feel bad for you.
Supply and demand. I resell on the side hence the name and see the sneaker community drive items that would net a nice return straight into the ground.
The only thing I agree on is that this print run and total fail of Griffey and Nolan Ryan reselling will ensure that the resellers either stay away or don’t buy as many as they did today.
I’d buy Zion panini products and hold because the demand outweighs the supply
You can’t tell me that there will be enough demand for this Griffey to hold and get some sort of return.
Again ^^^ unpopular opinion


On a side note
SLAP THE BIN ON WILLIE MAYS SALADEEN

price is too high

[Wiseysez]

My top 5 (aesthetically speaking) *all cards I have bought because of the look (and sometimes print runs

1. Siff Ripken
2. Blake Mattingly
3. Blake McGwire
4. Naturel Clemente
5. Taylor Henderson

[BOT]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

price is too high

I have 50 I need to cash out
Slap the bin!!!

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

That $1M cap per card is silly.

There are 26,000 total sales of eBay under “Topps project 2020”

If the market cap per card is $1M, we’re at an $88M market cap, or $3,385 per card sold. Well 82 out of the 26K have sold for $3,385+, so I’m going to go ahead and say the market cap of the set is quite lower.

People have been trying to affix a "market cap" to sports cards a lot during the last few months. Yesterday it was $4 billion, indicating that Topps Project now would surpass a $4 billion valuation. For comparison, in strict "market cap" terminology, this exceeds Under Armour.

The calculation of every card ever made*highest value an individual card sold for is not indicative of anything.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Snakeonia

Whats more realistic in your opinion? 200k market cap?


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I have no clue?

I suspect completed sets in 2 years will settle down around the buy-in (not that everyone could be sold for that amount at the time).

The buy-in is $7K.

The total number of completed sets will be a max of 1065 I believe. Do I think $700K for all completed sets is realistic? No.

In terms of market cap for ALL cards? Tough without all the PRs yet. Once the dust has settled and you see the total number of cards you can have a better idea.

To date, Topps has sold 500K cards. That’s 15% of the sold secondary market cards on eBay. That’s an absolute insane number when you consider the bull run we’re on with cards currently.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by BOT

I have 50 I need to cash out
Slap the bin!!!

can go SRP

remember, the set is now dead

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

You think the floor on this is $1M per card. That’s $400M in a market cap for the set.

Do you realize how insane that number is?

That’s the same as every 1952 Topps graded by PSA averaging $1500.

Do you think P2020 is greater than 1952??? Do you you think the demand is anywhere close to that set?

right now the demand for and interest in p2020 certainly seems much greater than 1952, with a strong appeal outside the card/sports world as well

in the long run, I say no way, but at this moment, yes

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by ethanwa

Today is the day for me to tap out. I'm selling all of my Project 2020 cards to take my profits. Will be around $10k in total profits when it's all said and done. I have the (currently) lowest Buy It Now prices on all of my cards on eBay.

With me you get 100% no cancellations, buying from a 14+ year eBay member with 5700+ 100% good feedback. All cards ship in a USPS Priority Mail BOX, bubble wrapped, with tracking, signature required, and insurance included for FREE.

Each auction will state if I have the card in hand yet or am still waiting for it.

I DO have good volume pricing on cards where I have more than 1.

<---- Check out my eBay username for anyone who wants to take a look and buy.

Just bought 3x Thiele Trouts from your account. Thanks for the deal.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

can go SRP

remember, the set is now dead

Dead again?? Well time to go golf seems to be when i miss all the price action.


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Snakeonia

Dead again?? Well time to go golf seems to be when i miss all the price action.


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yes! LOL

[Digitaljordan]

Originally Posted by BOT

Supply and demand. I resell on the side hence the name and see the sneaker community drive items that would net a nice return straight into the ground.

Once again you are referring to resellers and not the sneaker community. It's the resellers that do this no matter if it's sneakers, clothes, electronics or cards.

I see people congratulating others in this thread for reselling yet you want to blame the sneaker collectors for ruining this drop by reselling.

[TheWrightStuff]

Originally Posted by BOT

I have 50 I need to cash out
Slap the bin!!!

I can double your money on one of them! I like Saladeen.

[ninjacookies]

Just waiting to spot a bullish divergence on the daily before I hop back in for some 10 packs.

[RyanSwinger]

Have reflected on this for a few hours and I think this was actually a very positive thing.

You will likely see a mass exist of flippers and eventually PRs willl fall back to folks truly interested in the artist and I think that interest will continue to rise. Today you just elimated the outlier of people buying 10-100 cards per day regardless of player and artist.

Think things will settle back down to 20-40k PRs which still will allow for early releases to hold tremendous value.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by Digitaljordan

Once again you are referring to resellers and not the sneaker community. It's the resellers that do this no matter if it's sneakers, clothes, electronics or cards.

I see people congratulating others in this thread for reselling yet you want to blame the sneaker collectors for ruining this drop by reselling.

The outsider thinking trap. It's not US, it's THEM

[kevbojones]

My Top 5 Thus Far

1) Efdot Ted Williams-haven't received it yet, but it's gonna be beautiful
2) Gregory Siff Ripken- spectacular (I'm stoked for his Mattingly too)
3) Matt Taylor-Rickey Henderson--pure 80s awesomeness
4) Andrew Thiele Mike Trout--timeless beauty
5) King Saladeen Derek Jeter-one of the early hype cards and captures spirit of P2020

[ninjacookies]

McGwire Shore 1175 BIN hit and Fucci Trouts still over 150.

You cannot kill my joy.

[Bowman1951]

Originally Posted by BOT

HA I joined to be able to speak my own opinion. If you think tenure on a forum means anything I feel bad for you.

Nice deflection, that's what all PBM's say.

Put your money where your mouth is and post your eBay username.

[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

gold griffey shore 1/1 - what's the bounty price?

Toughest pull yet. Aside from an actual mammal getting an AP from the Topps website.


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[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

right now the demand for and interest in p2020 certainly seems much greater than 1952, with a strong appeal outside the card/sports world as well

in the long run, I say no way, but at this moment, yes

Is there outside interest? If so how much and how do we quantify?

r/art has 17.7M members. How many mentions of P2020? I think you could guess the answer.

I don’t doubt the cross over appeal, and I love the set. I just don’t see the Falcon 9s lined up to take us to Mars.

[RyanSwinger]

Jeter Saladeen is a beautiful card and will only continue to rise.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by ethanwa

My eBay username is on the left under my forum username. It's 'blade-runner-2049' on eBay, not 'ethanwa'.

Ha, all sold out save the 1 Griffey Jr. They were all live when I opened the pages up and while doing a print run check,gone.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

You're 100% right. All these people want to do is pump the golden goose. I've heard people saying every card will be $50 or more regardless of the print run. There are not 99,000 people looking to spend $50 for a Griffey shore card, sorry.

How do you know?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by thenightman

How do you know?

he knows the future