Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[justin80]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

AP was impossible.

not for a bot!

[jayjones82]

Shore Griffey: 55,358
Vides Ryan: 38,220

My guess

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by Ag121

EST = Eastern Standard Time
EDT = Eastern Daylight Time

Standard Time is observed from early November until early March. The rest of the time - like now - is Daylight Time.

What are you a meteorologist or something?

[thebrett]

That Ripken is REALLY cool

[jlaw]

Topps doesn't give a damn

[JRX]

We should just rename that Ripken the T1000

[Shorty]

Estimate:

Griffey: 48,900
Ryan: 19,800

[KabirC]

Originally Posted by BOT

The continued bashing is warranted. Everything the west coast touches takes huge dips in prices
Everyone tries to resell in California and the prices show time and time again they undercut and dump for whatever they can take

You talking about NY resellers?

[phildow]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

AP was impossible.

The first time the AP loaded for me they already were showing as "Sold Out." I doubt real people are buying these...well, at least getting them in their cart.

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

AP was impossible.

AP sold out before they were shown on site. It would help if people don't leak the daily cards, botters won't know what to look for. But that is my 2 cents.

[justin80]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

If Topps could drop the AP so the bots stop screwing the site that would be fantastic.

Live feed from the Topps boardroom when they read your question:

[BOT]

Originally Posted by gmoney328

As far as the doom and gloom, who gives a s? 100% ROI, which would mean selling at a 42.78 price point at the highest (21.39 with tax direct from Topps if you buy a single card) is a GREAT ROI.

I've sold 4 cards so far, average ROI is close to 1400%. It's all gravy now.

I do feel for some folks who bought high. Panic is a real thing. Try to chill and enjoy this.

That’s not 100% ROI
That’s sneakerboi logic
eBay charges fees and you have to pay to ship your item
Cmon now

[cubsfan2154]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

No. If you have the first 40 P2020s and haven't planned your exit strategy, or if you have a Baller Ichiro or Ermsy Trout and you're not cashing out (for those who plan on cashing out) you're a fool.

If you're buying at these prices (only approximately 50 people in @ $2k+) you're a bigger fool.

Not quite the market cap of the Trout Update...

What else does your magic 8 ball say?

[SaveMeTheGum]

I'm only seeing the sold out AP's -- anyone seeing the regular cards and 2 card bundles?


EDIT: NVM - got it

[Baseball Fury]

Originally Posted by Shorty

Estimate:

Griffey: 48,900
Ryan: 19,800

My estimate

Griffey: 35,500
Ryan: 22,500

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by redscollector24

If Topps could drop the AP so the bots stop screwing the site that would be fantastic.

First time in the thread? Welcome.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by jayjones82

Shore Griffey: 55,358
Vides Ryan: 38,220

My guess

I don't want to say 100K on the Griffey, but it wouldn't surprise me either.

If buying, even at a 10% ROI, means you can print money, people will use up all their capital.

Why wouldn't I just buy 10,000 personally for $200K if it meant that I can return $20K? Better gains in shorter periods than the market.

[kyle121592]

Originally Posted by Ozai75

Yup. Literally a couple of posters just post quoting each other and patting themselves on the back about how right they are until it's become and endless circle of "You're right about that!" And "You're right about me being right about that!" It's annoying.


Let people enjoy the hobby.

You don't have to have 100 people pumping the thread to "enjoy the hobby". If that is all that is holding these things up then the people posting about the flip side are the least of everyones worry.

I don't see anything wrong with people saying to take profits while the prices are at great numbers return wise on initial investment.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Ozai75

Yup. Literally a couple of posters just post quoting each other and patting themselves on the back about how right they are until it's become and endless circle of "You're right about that!" And "You're right about me being right about that!" It's annoying.


Let people enjoy the hobby.

It's like I said..you're always gonna have people who want this to fail so they can feel better about themselves for not jumping in..they'll do anything to keep reminding people how trash the product is..how its gonna crash etc etc..now im saying everyone with that opinion is like that..but there are definitely some that have that mentality. It sucks but it is what is..unfortunately instead of talking about the cards or artists most of the last few pages have been about end is near..undercutting..discord groups..crashes etc.

[OneBuck]

I think it's a win-win if you're a collector. I bought a bunch of non-pc stuff throughout the past month if I liked the look. If prices stay high I can sell the stuff I don't absolutely love and cover the cost (plus some) of the PC cards I'm planning to keep regardless. If the bottom drops out then I can shoot for the entire 400 card set & pick up those 50 or so cards that are way out of my price range at the moment.

[whoshotjr]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

All this negative talk.

Just picture this in your head -- a full 20 card run of Trout, purchased at $20ish a pop. You don't think Trout fans would LOVE this.

Or a full 20 card run of Baller to a Baller fan.

Sure -- we are not even 25% in, so the current momentum can not possibly last 400 cards. There have been peaks. There will be dips. But longterm these sets are going to be amazing.

That's what I am doing with Henderson now, barring a pre-order snafu on the one that I missed when I was buried in work.

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[JRX]

This may well crash, but unlike the previous entries being mentioned, there has never been anything like these cards.

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by BOT

That’s not 100% ROI
That’s sneakerboi logic
eBay charges fees and you have to pay to ship your item
Cmon now

Cost of doing business. I don't care about that.

disclaimer---you got me, and I have a freaking finance degree.

[redscollector24]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

First time in the thread? Welcome.

Been here for a while, just wanted to wait to see todays drop before using a 10% code.

[thenightman]

Newsflash!

Cook groups and sneaker bois wouldn’t be getting involved if people weren’t interested. You think people are gonna stop being interested when they get involved?

Nah, you’re just complaining now because you know your ROI is going to be less than you imagined. Those of us who got in early will be fine because THERE IS DEMAND for this set. If our ROI is less for awhile, that’s fine. We know those of you who don’t really give a damn about this set, other than ROI, will give up after awhile, print runs will go down, and everything will go back to how it was.

Then you’ll come running back.