Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[mcwildcats]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Interesting thought I had

ESPN is doing documentary on 1998 home run chase

Griffey hit 56 homers that year and the chase was originally between him and McGwire

I think he will be in the documentary and it will end up boosting his cards

Haven't they already gone crazy? I always loved the look of his Fleer RC (wish there was a way Topps could do that in this Project haha).

[doubledribble]

Is the list of releases known or is it random which of the cards/artists are up next? I'm liking most of the Saladeen's so far. Local Philly guy.

[Drago06]

Originally Posted by trendy26

This kinda feels like the Crypto bubble from a couple years back.....

I keep thinking i haven't had this much fun since Bitcoin and Dec 2017... then January came around

[biggieruth]

I need the Fucci Ripken and Rochester Koufax. I have 90% of the early ones.But with these prices the game got to rich for my blood. I will trade a Mahomes Silver or a Acuna Foil for a few project cards.

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[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Drago06

I keep thinking i haven't had this much fun since Bitcoin and Dec 2017... then January came around

Difference with this is as long as you are buying at MSRP, it’s extremely unlikely you will lose money

[Powell7db]

Sorry if this has been asked but Will we know in advance what cards 89 and 90 are and what they look like?

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Drago06

I keep thinking i haven't had this much fun since Bitcoin and Dec 2017... then January came around

Bitcoin was made-up nothingness. This is an actual tangible item.

[mudflap02]

Just got shipping notice on Shore Gibsons.

[Soxfanguy]

Is there a tracker for what cards have shipped or not?

[nerdherd020]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Just FYI, seller castorpollux22 cancelled a purchase I made tonight and sent me a message saying he won’t be honoring the price I bought it at. He’s got 10k positive feedback; 100% positive. Do what you want with that but he’s got a lot of big P2020 cards listed.

Just wanted to update everyone... the seller reached out to me today and he clarified his reasoning for canceling my purchase. It was a re-listing error on eBay’s part after a previous buyer requested an order cancellation. He apologized he wasn’t more specific about what happened in his initial message.

After exchanging multiple messages with him he sounds like a genuine and honest person, and I have no reason to believe he isn’t telling the truth. He told me he will 100% be honoring all of his P2020 pre-orders, so for those on here who are worried, you can breathe a little easier. Support his business... he’s got some big P2020 cards for sale and you know they will be delivered even if they double in price overnight.

[TheWrightStuff]

Well I cant keep up. Card listed last night for $95 OBO, I offered $85, woke up today and that card is sold and all others are selling for $150.

Today see a different card listed for $199, add card to my cart, go to check out and seller had raised the price to $299 in that time and all other of those cards are selling for $280.

I guess I give up on getting any of the older cards, I just cant bring myself to buy a card for 100-200% more than I could have bought it for 12 hours ago. I just cant do it.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Just wanted to update everyone... the seller reached out to me today and he clarified his reasoning for canceling my purchase. It was a re-listing error on eBay’s part after a previous buyer requested an order cancellation. He apologized he wasn’t more specific about what happened in his initial message.

After exchanging multiple messages with him he sounds like a genuine and honest person, and I have no reason to believe he isn’t telling the truth. He told me he will 100% be honoring all of his P2020 pre-orders, so for those on here who are worried, you can breathe a little easier. Support his business... he’s got some big P2020 cards for sale and you know they will be delivered even if they double in price overnight.

Glad to hear

[pskell02]

This whole thing is just silly. I've put in just over $500 on 47 cards, all of which are waiting to ship still, total retail value on them is right around $10k. I'm still buying up whatever I can as I think a lot of these still have plenty of room to grow with small print runs.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Just wanted to update everyone... the seller reached out to me today and he clarified his reasoning for canceling my purchase. It was a re-listing error on eBay’s part after a previous buyer requested an order cancellation. He apologized he wasn’t more specific about what happened in his initial message.

After exchanging multiple messages with him he sounds like a genuine and honest person, and I have no reason to believe he isn’t telling the truth. He told me he will 100% be honoring all of his P2020 pre-orders, so for those on here who are worried, you can breathe a little easier. Support his business... he’s got some big P2020 cards for sale and you know they will be delivered even if they double in price overnight.

Yeah i bought a ichiro ermsy from him yesterday and got nervous after you posted about your cancellation. Messaged him and assured me it was being shipped tomorrow

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by daeve

Topps could've made way more $ by randomly inserting the /20 AP and just charging $24.95 per card....and that way no bots collecting all 20 AP

I’d rather see the price start out very high and drop slowly—use a bot, pay a lot

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

Well I cant keep up. Card listed last night for $95 OBO, I offered $85, woke up today and that card is sold and all others are selling for $150.

Today see a different card listed for $199, add card to my cart, go to check out and seller had raised the price to $299 in that time and all other of those cards are selling for $280.

I guess I give up on getting any of the older cards, I just cant bring myself to buy a card for 100-200% more than I could have bought it for 12 hours ago. I just cant do it.

Look up "Sunk cost fallacy" and then decide whether to give up or not.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by nerdherd020

Just wanted to update everyone... the seller reached out to me today and he clarified his reasoning for canceling my purchase. It was a re-listing error on eBay’s part after a previous buyer requested an order cancellation. He apologized he wasn’t more specific about what happened in his initial message.

After exchanging multiple messages with him he sounds like a genuine and honest person, and I have no reason to believe he isn’t telling the truth. He told me he will 100% be honoring all of his P2020 pre-orders, so for those on here who are worried, you can breathe a little easier. Support his business... he’s got some big P2020 cards for sale and you know they will be delivered even if they double in price overnight.

Good news. And this is why we need to be careful with the pitchforks. Like it or not we, here in the Project 2020 vs Fleer 1991 Thread, are a mob.

[zbaseball21]

Finally i am caught up after 2 hours of reading since i woke up. I will never sleep again!

[JRX]

I think the better way to look at these would be in terms of market cap of each card what with all the "card investors" probably jumping in on this. If the Blake McGwire ends at 1000 by July 4th, the entire run is 18M. That feels absurd, it might not be, but it seems stupid. These aren't Davinici prints for crying out loud. The Ermsy Trout has a market cap of what 6-9M now, are the 3k or so cards really worth that? What's the whole print run going to be worth 400M, 4B, 40B? At a certain point the price will correct.

[Fsegaud]

Originally Posted by JRX

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-Proje...wAAOSwbJJezBjx

WTF this is literally on the topps site for half. This has to be people that are either A) stupid or B) Intentionally trying to pump it up

This is proof this sells beyond card collectors.

I really believe there are people who have no clue where the source of these cards is....see it available on Ebay...buy buy buy!!!

[spmgeaux]

coronalover4u Just backed out on a sale from Saturday night of three Thiele Trouts for 35 a piece. Was around 400 feedback, all positive, currently only has one project 2020 running at auction. If I can’t even get the purchases to go through on cards that were in hand, not feeling great about my chances for the cards I bought presale.

[nerdherd020]

Originally Posted by daeve

This one along with the Oldmanalan Gwynn, Siff Brett, and Vides Rickey are the 4 that will haunt me. Aside from the Brett I was passing on the Gwynn and Rickey all day at $70-75 per, the Jeter at $35-40 and the Brett at $100-120. And I liked all of them.

There was a listing last week for a lot of nine (NINE!!!) Ermsy Trouts for $5000. And I believe it was re-listed a couple of times before that since no one bought it.

[doubledribble]

think the print runs will keep climbing? seems like topps has an opportunity to just pump these out.

[trendy26]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Good news. And this is why we need to be careful with the pitchforks. Like it or not we, here in the Project 2020 vs Fleer 1991 Thread, are a mob.

Honestly that’s the truth! In one of my car enthusiast forums (Bimmerpost.com) you don’t mess with the community! One guy tried to scam someone out of $1K for a set of wheels. Everyone on the forum got together, found out a lot of the info on the guy who was scamming the forum member, low and behold we were able to get his money refunded. One for all and all for one!

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by doubledribble

think the print runs will keep climbing? .

Nope, no way.