Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 460

sheffield77 · 05-25-2020, 01:34 PM

Will people go out and get these graded and then create even more scarcity?

RyanSwinger · 05-25-2020, 01:36 PM

Casing question.

If your case has a minor "ding" on on the front from what was sent from Topps, is there any recourse? Also, as a seller on the secondary market, if there is no recourse- how much should this be discounted in listings (if at all)?

Malsk · 05-25-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sheffield77

Will people go out and get these graded and then create even more scarcity?

Yes. Already Thiele Trout BGS 9.5's that have sold for $550. They are very tough to grade being thicker cards.

Soxfanguy · 05-25-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sheffield77

Will people go out and get these graded and then create even more scarcity?

I don’t know about that

Personally if I had them, I wouldn’t risk it. Thick cards rarely grade well

But that’s just me

Snakeonia · 05-25-2020, 01:40 PM

Vides is cool. More pronounce on rickey than the others on hands

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thenightman · 05-25-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sheffield77

Will people go out and get these graded and then create even more scarcity?

Yes they will get graded and yes it will create even more scarcity.

BurnerNotify · 05-25-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mchenrycards

Serious question......

I am just trying to wrap my mind around the resale market for these cards. I fully understand the demand for these works by the artists go way beyond the normal demand for sports cards but even then, the laws of supply and demand have to kick in somewhere and temper these sales. Are you guys who are buying these cards buying into the hype and HOPING for huge returns or do you have a real plan for buying low and selling at a comfortable high price.

I am serious about these questions as I would really like to know your thoughts. I am skeptical but not above testing the waters myself.

Semi-serious answer.....
No one can fully understand all the drivers for this craziness. I'm a pretty smart dude with an MBA from a top school, but have no idea WTF is going on or what i'm going to do. My thoughts are don't waste time wrapping your head around this. Stop watching the madness and put some skin in the game. You'll learn more by doing and have more fun in the process.

thenightman · 05-25-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Semi-serious answer.....
No one can fully understand all the drivers for this craziness. I'm a pretty smart dude with an MBA from a top school, but have no idea WTF is going on or what i'm going to do. My thoughts are don't waste time wrapping your head around this. Stop watching the madness and put some skin in the game. You'll learn more by doing and have more fun in the process.

You'll also experience a roller-coaster full of emotion. Just don't extend yourself. Buy what you can afford.

Namttip · 05-25-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Wonder what the median is

Cards like Baller Ichiro and Ermsy Trout are tipping the scales too much for the average I think

Updated

Market Cap: $108,555,999.00

Average Card Price: $510.22

Median: $$365.00

Interesting change in card prices at: 61 Willie Mays King Saladeen

trendy26 · 05-25-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Semi-serious answer.....
No one can fully understand all the drivers for this craziness. I'm a pretty smart dude with an MBA from a top school, but have no idea WTF is going on or what i'm going to do. My thoughts are don't waste time wrapping your head around this. Stop watching the madness and put some skin in the game. You'll learn more by doing and have more fun in the process.

Man, in the same boat... haha. MBA - Top School and very well established Finance and Economics background, and I honestly can’t figure this out...

Soxfanguy · 05-25-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Namttip

Updated

Market Cap: $108,555,999.00

Average Card Price: $510.22

Median: $$365.00

Interesting change in card prices at: 61Willie MaysKing Saladeen

Thanks

34JacktheRipper · 05-25-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Semi-serious answer.....
No one can fully understand all the drivers for this craziness. I'm a pretty smart dude with an MBA from a top school, but have no idea WTF is going on or what i'm going to do. My thoughts are don't waste time wrapping your head around this. Stop watching the madness and put some skin in the game. You'll learn more by doing and have more fun in the process.

Gave myself this same advice yesterday, and uh, yeah I don't regret it.

Silas Barnaby · 05-25-2020, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

Casing question.

If your case has a minor "ding" on on the front from what was sent from Topps, is there any recourse? Also, as a seller on the secondary market, if there is no recourse- how much should this be discounted in listings (if at all)?

Probably a refund if you push it.

PDCCollectibles · 05-25-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JKernea
Print Runs are out:

Willie Mays - King Saladeen 5459
Ichiro - Sophia Chang 6207

Accountant on BO--"Pretty large - expected these to be high"

Above is what we all thought a high PR was 3 weeks ago, lol....

BurnerNotify · 05-25-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Now, I can get behind that. That looks beautiful. What's the point of the Griffey card? That just looks like a joke. I literally thought someone was joking when I saw the initial pic. And I now I just saw someone point out that he has 6 fingers on his left hand. LOL

Don't buy the Griffey, it's a joke. Your friends and family will laugh at you for buying it.

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 01:46 PM

how great is it?

elny43 · 05-25-2020, 01:46 PM

For those that are offloading some of the high $$ cards, are you doing anything differently from a packaging / shipping perspective? Sounds like some of you are suggesting UPS w/ sig for the $1k+ cards.

AlexHunter · 05-25-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Namttip

Updated

Market Cap: $108,555,999.00

Average Card Price: $510.22

Median: $$365.00

Interesting change in card prices at: 61Willie MaysKing Saladeen

Yah thanks the median is much more true to this than average.

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ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 01:47 PM

i agree, do NOT buy 10s griffeys if you hate money

anusinha · 05-25-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

Man, in the same boat... haha. MBA - Top School and very well established Finance and Economics background, and I honestly can’t figure this out...

Im CFO of a multimillion dollar corporation and have been trading cards for 34+ years...... I cant figure it out either.

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 01:48 PM

#BaseballCardGoggles

dhcollecting · 05-25-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

Man, in the same boat... haha. MBA - Top School and very well established Finance and Economics background, and I honestly can’t figure this out...

It feels like a large bubble, these prices will come down hard when all the investors bail. There isnt enough pure Topps set collectors to drive up the prices.

PDCCollectibles · 05-25-2020, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

#BaseballCardGoggles

Exactly, better take those baseball card goggles off.....this is a whole different realm than just 'cards'.....

mcwildcats · 05-25-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i agree, do NOT buy 10s griffeys if you hate money

I bought 10 of the Nolans. Forgot I had the Topps app. At least that still works for me! #ThanksTopps #NotEntirelyBanned4Life

thenightman · 05-25-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Im CFO of a multimillion dollar corporation and have been trading cards for 34+ years...... I cant figure it out either.

I have won a Nobel Prize in Economics and I don't get any of this, but FOMO MUTHAFLUBBAZZZ!!!!!!

05-25-2020, 01:46 PM	#11491
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,137 ThoseBackPages	how great is it? __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-25-2020, 01:47 PM	#11494
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,137 ThoseBackPages	i agree, do NOT buy 10s griffeys if you hate money __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-25-2020, 01:48 PM	#11496
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,137 ThoseBackPages	#BaseballCardGoggles __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

05-25-2020, 01:34 PM	#11476
sheffield77 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 715	Will people go out and get these graded and then create even more scarcity?

05-25-2020, 01:36 PM	#11477
RyanSwinger Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,104	Casing question. If your case has a minor "ding" on on the front from what was sent from Topps, is there any recourse? Also, as a seller on the secondary market, if there is no recourse- how much should this be discounted in listings (if at all)?

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Snakeonia Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 2,601	Vides is cool. More pronounce on rickey than the others on hands Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-25-2020, 01:46 PM	#11489
PDCCollectibles Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 5,078	Quote: Originally Posted by JKernea Print Runs are out: Willie Mays - King Saladeen 5459 Ichiro - Sophia Chang 6207 Accountant on BO--"Pretty large - expected these to be high" Above is what we all thought a high PR was 3 weeks ago, lol....

05-25-2020, 01:46 PM	#11492
elny43 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Big Apple Posts: 1,525	For those that are offloading some of the high $$ cards, are you doing anything differently from a packaging / shipping perspective? Sounds like some of you are suggesting UPS w/ sig for the $1k+ cards.