Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Peteybass]

Originally Posted by DonnieBaseball2

Well I just got this message and joined the cancellation club . . .





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Definitely say I will take it as is no problem. I buy a ton from Topps and they will replace the case.

[Acid Dock]

Originally Posted by biggieruth

How did the cards sell out before they went live?

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They sold out "as" they went live, but way before any human could click the link. People are botting the cards. Occasionally someone on here magically hits the refresh button at exactly the right time and comes away with one but almost always they're snapped up by bots..

[ThoseBackPages]

40K easy today

[BurnerNotify]

Predictions... 65K folks. Heard it here first.

Griffey 45K ==> Shore strikes gold. Meet the new Print Run King.
Ryan 20K ==> Cool idea with the special ink but doesn’t have the cool wow factor

[mlc3423]

And after 3 hours I've finally caught up this thread...Gonna take a small break and check back in a bit

Matt Taylor #39 Jeter is now $150

[craines27mc]

I bought for the first time today, blame me.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

And after 3 hours I've finally caught up this thread...Gonna take a small break and check back in a bit

Matt Taylor #39 Jeter is now $150

Beck Ripken is now $350. It'll catch up to Chang Robinson at $500. Lower print run.

[hanstess]

Dang, now they have the bundle up for the Ryan/Griffey

[coltsnsox07]

"cracked case', great excuse...tell him you plan on getting it graded and you're taking it out of the case anyhow.

[gamboooler]

I said I didn't believe in a ceiling on 10k+ cards until Jeter 29/39 and Trout 35 were worth more than $35 (funny this was only a few days ago). Game has changed lol. I am a little skeptical of Trout Rochester immediately shooting up but nothing surprises me anymore. Just buy everything.

[ThoseBackPages]

what is the American Mac at?

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

I might take you up on that actually if I end up with a cancelled order. I live in CA and seller is in FL.

Let me know.

[yanksfan0134]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

In regards to the estimated PR on the Griffey today remember when the Baller Trout hit 35k and people said their wouldn't be a lot of profit on it?...Just sayin

You think this leaves more room for the Nolan? I think people will be flocking to the Griffey.

[Namttip]

Summary of the past 25 pages or so...

Originally Posted by sheffield77

Is there a page of this thread or a different thread that explains this a little better.

It looks like you can order as many as you want and whatever that amount is is the print run?
Or are there set print runs?

Also why do we think the prices are getting driven up so much if anyone can get them?
Or am i dead wrong and these sellout immediate and there is a set limited PR?

Originally Posted by metsandweezer

The website is crashing for me.

Originally Posted by metsandweezer

Has anyone on here pre-sold these cards on eBay?

Originally Posted by thesupremefiles

What happens when all of these pre-sale cards (which aren't in hand yet), go up to $100 per. Then they all get shipped out and 1000 cards flood ebay at the same time?

Originally Posted by pryantexas

Are there any concerns about how easily these might be reproduced/faked?

Not serial numbered

Seems like mos will collect them in their case instead of graded slab

Originally Posted by biggieruth

How did the cards sell out before they went live?

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I am so glad I am not new to this craziness.... I do not think I would understand it had I not sold a Shore Mac May 6th for 37 bux... No way I could make heads or tales of it now... this fits no model I can comprehend

Originally Posted by mlc3423

And after 3 hours I've finally caught up this thread...Gonna take a small break and check back in a bit

Matt Taylor #39 Jeter is now $150

I think I am done for the day - I actually have to do something besides updating spreadsheets.

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by mlc3423

In regards to the estimated PR on the Griffey today remember when the Baller Trout hit 35k and people said their wouldn't be a lot of profit on it?...Just sayin

I thought it.

And with a 33k Rochester Trout hitting $75...

Eff it.

Everything has a lot of profit.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Acid Dock

They sold out "as" they went live, but way before any human could click the link. People are botting the cards. Occasionally someone on here magically hits the refresh button at exactly the right time and comes away with one but almost always they're snapped up by bots..

Topps could've made way more $ by randomly inserting the /20 AP and just charging $24.95 per card....and that way no bots collecting all 20 AP

[mkmoe23]

Originally Posted by DonnieBaseball2

I just told them I would take it anyway. I’ll wait for response. It’s funny because they have the exact same lot up of 1 trout ermsy and 2 trout Thiele for $10000 now.

Absolutely take it anyway. You pretty easily can exchange the case out to another Ultra Pro 130 mag touch, or if its the card looks great, send it in to get graded.
The seller should give you the option, should not automatically cancel.

[LTLurker]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

Okay... I left him a negative about an hour ago. He just messaged me and said "New message from: good1goods (383Turquoise Star) Still 100% feedback! Your comments hold no weight!"

ebay removed my feedback!!!!!


I said "You’re just not a good person. I don’t get how you think what you did was okay."



He said: "Bruh just buy another one and stop crying!"




F***ing loser. They are double what I paid.

#@#@#@#@ this person. How did it get removed? It’s blatantly against eBay policy by this seller. #@#@#@#@ing eBay man


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[Bob Loblaw]

If someone wants to post a summary as to how this works - I know I don't - let me know and I'll edit the OP.

I am continuing to edit the OP with things I find interesting.

[JRX]

For some of these people cancelling orders, is there a way to contact other buyers and say "hey you can just buy these off topps for 20 bucks"

[WHyFLy]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I thought it.

And with a 33k Rochester Trout hitting $75...

Eff it.

Everything has a lot of profit.

I think of it like this Bob,

By the end of the run of cards, the 33k even 50k PR cards are going to be miniscule. These cards are tapping into huge markets that wouldn't have eyes and if these artist who have insane followings in social media are actively pumping their product, then there will be profit to be made especially on the 1st 100 cards in the set.

Rochester Trout up 300%
Baller Gooden up 200%

All this in literally 24 hours from ending on Topps website.

[coltsnsox07]

Just looking at 3 guys selling Griffey presales on ebay, they have about 600 sales in the 1st hour..

[gamboooler]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Just looking at 3 guys selling Griffey presales on ebay, they have about 600 sales in the 1st hour..

IIRC Jeter Thiele and McGwire Blake were at roughly 700 and 600 respectively after 1.5 days of preselling when I checked. So... wow.

[Peteybass]

Now that im caught up on the set I am going to purchase 2x of each player from Topps going forward. One for the PC and the other for who knows what. Only comes to $11,700.

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Just looking at 3 guys selling Griffey presales on ebay, they have about 600 sales in the 1st hour..

I looked at those.

1) Is it possible that they're taking the presale cards every day and just changing the title of the auction and the picture? i.e. they have 200 sales for the Baller Gooden, and 100 sales for the card before that, and they just keep rolling the listing over with changing the title/picture?

2) What is the point of buying through someone else? It's not cheaper unless you want one card.... and then the time value of waiting for them to ship and not getting a chance at the 1/1 is still not worth it...