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Old 05-24-2020, 03:58 PM   #9701
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You do understand that a lot of these sellers plan on continuing to sell 2020 cards for the next 6 months. How much future money are they costing themselves due to negative feedback by cancelling an order? A lot.

Ya, there are gonna be some sellers who cut off their nose to spite their face, but there are a whole lot more who will do right. I've found mine and if I go through eBay, it'll be through them.
Actually they are costing themselves nothing. They aren't even making money on the cards at under $20 a piece after fees and shipping. On the Ermsy Ted Williams the couple high volume sellers will lose more money not selling those for $300 a piece than they will profit off the rest of the project selling cards for under $20 a piece.
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Old 05-24-2020, 03:59 PM   #9702
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4K is the new 2k

8k is the new 4K

16k is the new 8k

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:03 PM   #9703
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4K is the new 2k

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16k is the new 8k

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:06 PM   #9704
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Baller Trout at $100+ shipped.

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:07 PM   #9705
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Actually they are costing themselves nothing. They aren't even making money on the cards at under $20 a piece after fees and shipping. On the Ermsy Ted Williams the couple high volume sellers will lose more money not selling those for $300 a piece than they will profit off the rest of the project selling cards for under $20 a piece.
Yes, they're costing themselves future sales, and they are making money, they're making their money back, leaving themselves with plenty extra to flip at the higher prices, and increasing their odds at a 1/1. I've already talked to more than one seller who has confirmed they're doing this.

All that goes out the window if their rep is in the toilet. I'm not saying this is going to be true for all sellers, but I will bet you that there are plenty here who have had positive experiences with sellers honoring their deals compared to the alternative.

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:08 PM   #9706
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Just starting to pay attention to this. Is there a set schedule when these hit the Topps website? Don't want to waste time checking the website daily if new cards only show up on Wednesday and Saturday (for example).
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:10 PM   #9707
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Baller Trout at $100+ shipped.

Started selling mine exactly one day too early smdh
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:10 PM   #9708
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Second Baller run with insane numbers. Think he bought a bunch of 2 packs (and the Trout guys followed up)?
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:11 PM   #9709
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:11 PM   #9710
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Just starting to pay attention to this. Is there a set schedule when these hit the Topps website? Don't want to waste time checking the website daily if new cards only show up on Wednesday and Saturday (for example).
Two cards around 1pm EST Monday-Friday.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:12 PM   #9711
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Just starting to pay attention to this. Is there a set schedule when these hit the Topps website? Don't want to waste time checking the website daily if new cards only show up on Wednesday and Saturday (for example).
Every business day.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:12 PM   #9712
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Yes, they're costing themselves future sales, and they are making money, they're making their money back, leaving themselves with plenty extra to flip at the higher prices, and increasing their odds at a 1/1. I've already talked to more than one seller who has confirmed they're doing this.

All that goes out the window if their rep is in the toilet.
I pre-sold some Mays Saladeen and Ichiro Chang cards after they sold out. Bought 10 of each and sold 5. For me I knew going in they would be worth more when they shipped than at the time. Kudo’s to those people who purchased from me as they will get their cards and will profit handsomely from them. I plan on doing pre-sales in the future too and I totally agree all it takes is 1 mistake to ruin your rep. It’s takes a lot to earn a customer but only 1 bad thing to lose them.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:13 PM   #9713
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From now on, I'm just going to order direct from topps.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:14 PM   #9714
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Seriously, I need to buy a large safe for my Project2020 stuff. I dont think this stuff has exploded just yet and historically, this will go down as the Pandemic 2020 set to own.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:14 PM   #9715
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I do think hes 100% telling friends / investors he is close to. This is the guy who got CJ McCollum to invest in cards and made a flip for 250k in two days.
What did he do with CJ McCollum the basketball player with card investing.

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:14 PM   #9716
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From now on, I'm just going to order direct from topps.
Me too. I have a few that have blown up, but have ZERO interest in buying secondary now. Especially at these prices.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:15 PM   #9717
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You guys think AP prices get raised again?
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:16 PM   #9718
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From now on, I'm just going to order direct from topps.
I would recommend that also. To me it's worth the extra $2.50 for a chance at a gold frame. However, I'm only going for a couple artist sets. If you're going for all 400, there are trusted sellers(some on here) and you'll end up saving over $700 if I did my math right.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:17 PM   #9719
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Yes, they're costing themselves future sales, and they are making money, they're making their money back, leaving themselves with plenty extra to flip at the higher prices, and increasing their odds at a 1/1. I've already talked to more than one seller who has confirmed they're doing this.

All that goes out the window if their rep is in the toilet. I'm not saying this is going to be true for all sellers, but I will bet you that there are plenty here who have had positive experiences with sellers honoring their deals compared to the alternative.
They honored the deals before because they weren't losing much money. $20-$30 price change a card is much different than $200-$300 a card. Before they had a great chance at a 1/1 with PR's under 5k. Now it will be like finding a needle in a haystack. They confirmed to you what they were doing weeks ago. As of this weekend things have certainly changed. How many preorder cards have gone from under $50 to $200 in the last week?
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:18 PM   #9720
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You guys think AP prices get raised again?
I think it's a niche market with the percentage increase limited. Going from a $200 card to a $600 card isn't that great when you're seeing the regular versions go from $15 to $150.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:19 PM   #9721
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/313087095887

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Old 05-24-2020, 04:19 PM   #9722
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I pre-sold some Mays Saladeen and Ichiro Chang cards after they sold out. Bought 10 of each and sold 5. For me I knew going in they would be worth more when they shipped than at the time. Kudo’s to those people who purchased from me as they will get their cards and will profit handsomely from them. I plan on doing pre-sales in the future too and I totally agree all it takes is 1 mistake to ruin your rep. It’s takes a lot to earn a customer but only 1 bad thing to lose them.
If you were preselling a 10 pack of 20 different cards at $20 a piece that the value was now $200-$300 a piece can you honestly say you would still ship them out?
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:21 PM   #9723
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If you were preselling a 10 pack of 20 different cards at $20 a piece that the value was now $200-$300 a piece can you honestly say you would still ship them out?

I ~am this person and I guarantee you I will ship out every single one of my $16.99-$17.25 preorders to this date.


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Old 05-24-2020, 04:21 PM   #9724
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Started selling mine exactly one day too early smdh
I got my Trout Ballers in today and I am afraid to list because of the price increases. Was going to list for $50 this morning but then got nervous. At some point though I will probably list. Maybe when $500 for a 35,000 pr card. Crazy.
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Old 05-24-2020, 04:21 PM   #9725
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I think it's a niche market with the percentage increase limited. Going from a $200 card to a $600 card isn't that great when you're seeing the regular versions go from $15 to $150.
I wish Topps would just randomly insert them into their shipments or do a Dutch auction to make the bot bois go away. But again, it’s Topps we’re talking about.
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