Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 314

JVB · 05-22-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

Do you think Saladeen would have sold out of these on his website if the price point was $1,000? That's a million bucks for him.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, that card's just not worth $100 to me. I had the chance to buy and I passed. I could have flipped it I guess but I think it's 99% hype and 1% the value/appeal of the card itself. When the bubble bursts, money bear will be the first to drop. But will the bubble burst? Is this the first guaranteed winning investment ever? Time will tell.

Alan Greenspan sends his regards.

Nah, if it was priced at a thousand, it would have taken a week to sell out. Maybe 2. Maybe never. Hype would have been less. It would have been overpriced. Things can appreciate organically (whether by cook groups or naturally), but if you try to force it without the clout and the demand, it seldom materializes.

JRX · 05-22-2020, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bcr

Excited for his Trout and Griffey. Vides gets no love on the forum unfortunately.

I like his so far. Thiele might be my favorite so far.

JRX · 05-22-2020, 10:42 PM

What's crazy is buying the whole set form Topps would cost what about 7-8k?

williemayshayes · 05-22-2020, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

Vides Trout for me. I really like his stuff.

Absolutely

Kinda wish he was working with all somewhat whitewashed images. It’s his thing.

All white Jordans that he’s sharpied up and leaves them in the streets of LA for someone to find and keep.

Maybe his personal drop will involved hidden 2020 Cards in some cities across the US?

Narrator: He didn’t

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Ferg1945 · 05-22-2020, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

What's crazy is buying the whole set form Topps would cost what about 7-8k?

And the Baller Ichiro and Ermsy Trout would be $8K combined by December

williemayshayes · 05-22-2020, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

What's crazy is buying the whole set form Topps would cost what about 7-8k?

Or just buy 2 of each from 1-60, sell 1-60 and your entire set is free AND 61-400 is gravy.

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mudflap02 · 05-22-2020, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JVB

Nah, if it was priced at a thousand, it would have taken a week to sell out. Maybe 2. Maybe never. Hype would have been less. It would have been overpriced. Things can appreciate organically (whether by cook groups or naturally), but if you try to force it without the clout and the demand, it seldom materializes.

Lol so why is it worth 1000 now, 12 hours later?

MaeseChrome · 05-22-2020, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

What's crazy is buying the whole set form Topps would cost what about 7-8k?

Imagine if Topps makes one special card available to everybody who purchased every card?

ToddW · 05-22-2020, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cavsfan70

the McGwire Jameison autos sold out QUICK.

Darn it- I refreshed his website all afternoon waiting for them to show up.

speedyjg13 · 05-22-2020, 10:49 PM

Good night gang!

Today, for me, was intense in this thread with the relevation of the teddy bear!

AlexHunter · 05-22-2020, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Good night gang!

Today, for me, was intense in this thread with the relevation of the teddy bear!

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Silas Barnaby · 05-22-2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

Do you think Saladeen would have sold out of these on his website if the price point was $1,000?

The goal is to keep your fans happy and keep them wanting more.

If your biggest fans have to grit their teeth to make a purchase you risk losing them for a short term gain.

Even a used car dealer knows that you don't make your living on the first car you sell them, you make your money when they always come back to you for their next car.

justin80 · 05-22-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

Do you think Saladeen would have sold out of these on his website if the price point was $1,000? That's a million bucks for him.

Yes, eventually. But pricing them at a point they’d sell out fast was genius marketing by him. Fast sale at $100 is worth way more to the artist long-term than a slow sale at $1,000. A slow sale establishes that the market values you at or below the price you’ve set. It’s boring, not exciting. A fast sale at $100 shows the market values you much more than the price you set. Who knows how much higher. Sky could be the limit. The latter situation is what feeds a frenzy and could catapult an artist even further than the extra $900,000 in short-term profits.

mudflap02 · 05-22-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

The goal is to keep your fans happy and keep them wanting more.

If your biggest fans have to grit their teeth to make a purchase you risk losing them for a short term gain.

Even a used car dealer knows that you don't make your living on the first car you sell them, you make your money when they always come back to you for their next car.

How many money bears do you think went to his biggest fans? And how many to Project 2020 flippers?

Namttip · 05-22-2020, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ToddW

Darn it- I refreshed his website all afternoon waiting for them to show up.

Watched his stream after... He said there was going to be some held back for next week.

JRX · 05-22-2020, 10:56 PM

I'll be really curious on the Keith Shore Trout print run. He's def not for everyone's taste, but will the hype just drive up all the print runs.

ALBASKETBALL · 05-22-2020, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

I'll be really curious on the Keith Shore Trout print run. He's def not for everyone's taste, but will the hype just drive up all the print runs.

Are the print runs released prior to the cards hitting the market?

Silas Barnaby · 05-22-2020, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mudflap02

How many money bears do you think went to his biggest fans? And how many to Project 2020 flippers?

I don't know. 999 were sold. 12 have sold on eBay and 15 are for sale on eBay.

27/999 doesn't seem like too high a percentage.

Portocuba · 05-22-2020, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by williemayshayes

Or just buy 2 of each from 1-60, sell 1-60 and your entire set is free AND 61-400 is gravy.

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williemayshayes · 05-22-2020, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

I don't know. 999 were sold. 12 have sold on eBay and 15 are for sale on eBay.

27/999 doesn't seem like too high a percentage.

Wait 999?

I thought it was 99! So dude cuts out Topps and just makes bank?!

Well done!

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tconte · 05-22-2020, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ToddW

Darn it- I refreshed his website all afternoon waiting for them to show up.

Yah, I was hoping to get one too. Glad I got the Henderson. But now it
looks like I won't get a chance to get anymore. Some people probably
bought some hoping to flip.

Us collectors are going to have it tough. I just created a youtube signon and subscribed to his videos.
I've never done any of the social media stuff but I guess it might be my only chance now.

justin80 · 05-22-2020, 11:11 PM

For the people saying the Money Bear isn’t part of the Project 2020 set: I’m sure you’re primarily buying for your collection, but you might have in mind a potential sale of a complete set or artist set in the future. What if your potential purchaser considers the Money Bear card part of the set? Maybe he’s collecting the artist’s set. He needs that card too and suddenly your set is deficient because it’s missing THE KEY CARD. The hardest one to find. The Mantle. The Mays. The Money Bear.

Kodiaksr7 · 05-22-2020, 11:11 PM

Blake said he’s held back a certain number of cards for when he makes his Big Mac cards public (was pw protected tonight). So anyone that missed out will have another shot. Not sure when Blake is making them public.

Wil · 05-22-2020, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by justin80

For the people saying the Money Bear isn’t part of the Project 2020 set: I’m sure you’re primarily buying for your collection, but you might have in mind a potential sale of a complete set or artist set in the future. What if your potential purchaser considers the Money Bear card part of the set? Maybe he’s collecting the artist’s set. He needs that card too and suddenly your set is deficient because it’s missing THE KEY CARD. The hardest one to find. The Mantle. The Mays. The Money Bear.

As you try and pump your recent purchase I’m making a dismissive dice-shaking action with my right hand.

tysonbeck · 05-22-2020, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RyanSwinger

Griffey is a top 3 player in the set, Griffey's Taylor is a larger PR and is selling at a higher BIN by about $30-40 (likely due to Thomas card that is active now), Beck's Griffey is the 2nd lowest Griffey PR, Beck has yet to release Jeter or Trout (Taylor's Jeter is done), Beck's cards look better in hand and have consistently gotten better while Taylor's are all just slight variations of the same scheme.

like any more?

Yes sir! Wait until I get the chance to work on the big players. My previous cards are moving in value but that trend should only continue! Make sure to grab my next few cards before the big players come

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speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,224	Good night gang! Today, for me, was intense in this thread with the relevation of the teddy bear! __________________ Current PC: Mike Trout Prior PC: David Fletcher & Jered Weaver https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedyjg13/albums

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,740	What's crazy is buying the whole set form Topps would cost what about 7-8k?

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JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,740	I'll be really curious on the Keith Shore Trout print run. He's def not for everyone's taste, but will the hype just drive up all the print runs.

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justin80 Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,172	For the people saying the Money Bear isn’t part of the Project 2020 set: I’m sure you’re primarily buying for your collection, but you might have in mind a potential sale of a complete set or artist set in the future. What if your potential purchaser considers the Money Bear card part of the set? Maybe he’s collecting the artist’s set. He needs that card too and suddenly your set is deficient because it’s missing THE KEY CARD. The hardest one to find. The Mantle. The Mays. The Money Bear.

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Kodiaksr7 Member Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 371	Blake said he’s held back a certain number of cards for when he makes his Big Mac cards public (was pw protected tonight). So anyone that missed out will have another shot. Not sure when Blake is making them public.