Grading expectations for cards from Topps with seals.

rfgilles · 05-12-2020, 08:42 PM

I purchased 2 Vladimir Guerrero NNO cards on ebay in January. The pictures in the listing showed the 2 cards in toploaders with the Topps seal on them, indicating that they were replacement cards from Topps. The cards were delivered with the same seals.

I submitted the cards to PSA, and they came back with grades of 6 and 8.

How likely is it that replacement cards from Topps would grade so low? Is it more likely the seals were bogus.

Mister2Bits · 05-12-2020, 08:45 PM

The Topps seal can come off and be replaced pretty easy. It doesn't mean anything

LVDan · 05-12-2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

The Topps seal can come off and be replaced pretty easy. It doesn't mean anything

Unfortunately true 100%
I do think it would be cool if Topps started using a tamper proof seal on redemptions. Like that one guy.

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rfgilles · 05-12-2020, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

The Topps seal can come off and be replaced pretty easy. It doesn't mean anything

Yeah that is what I figured. Shame on me.

Jrhcards · 05-12-2020, 08:53 PM

Have you got the cards back? Would love to see what they look like. Care to show us the ungraded version? This particular card is known to have corner issues but to see a 6 or 8 would mean there would be a noticable flaw.

aric88 · 05-12-2020, 08:57 PM

Would the seal command a premium in this case? MIsterbits and LVDan are right the sticker can easily be removed and replaced but I would never assume a card coming from Topps to be mint. In fact, if it was only in a top loader and not a one-touch, were they even sleeved? I'm pretty sure I've seen unsleeved cards in top loaders with Topps stickers seals. Just a surface scratch alone could put at an 8.

rfgilles · 05-12-2020, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrhcards

Have you got the cards back? Would love to see what they look like. Care to show us the ungraded version? This particular card is known to have corner issues but to see a 6 or 8 would mean there would be a noticable flaw.

The funny thing is that the pictures of the listing are no longer available. ebay customer service said the listing was removed because there was something improper about it, which makes no sense because I had already purchased the cards. I didn't notice any issues with the corners, but i didn't look close because of the seal.

I am waiting for the cards to come back from Jewcer. They should be here tomorrow and I will post then.

messier2 · 05-12-2020, 09:11 PM

So, you sent cards in to get graded without prepping (or at least looking at them closely first?). Sigh, you deserve those grades! lol

05-12-2020, 08:42 PM	#1
rfgilles Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 4,383	Grading expectations for cards from Topps with seals. I purchased 2 Vladimir Guerrero NNO cards on ebay in January. The pictures in the listing showed the 2 cards in toploaders with the Topps seal on them, indicating that they were replacement cards from Topps. The cards were delivered with the same seals. I submitted the cards to PSA, and they came back with grades of 6 and 8. How likely is it that replacement cards from Topps would grade so low? Is it more likely the seals were bogus.

05-12-2020, 08:45 PM	#2
Mister2Bits Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Man Posts: 5,475 mistertwobits mistertwobits	The Topps seal can come off and be replaced pretty easy. It doesn't mean anything __________________ Collecting: Ohtani, Judge \| Skateboarding Cards, Autographs & Decks

05-12-2020, 08:53 PM	#5
Jrhcards Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 241	Have you got the cards back? Would love to see what they look like. Care to show us the ungraded version? This particular card is known to have corner issues but to see a 6 or 8 would mean there would be a noticable flaw.

05-12-2020, 08:57 PM	#6
aric88 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 161 aric88	Would the seal command a premium in this case? MIsterbits and LVDan are right the sticker can easily be removed and replaced but I would never assume a card coming from Topps to be mint. In fact, if it was only in a top loader and not a one-touch, were they even sleeved? I'm pretty sure I've seen unsleeved cards in top loaders with Topps stickers seals. Just a surface scratch alone could put at an 8.

05-12-2020, 09:11 PM	#8
messier2 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 15,319	So, you sent cards in to get graded without prepping (or at least looking at them closely first?). Sigh, you deserve those grades! lol