2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[kerg]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

But let's pack 500 in a Wal-Mart and it's okay.

Going in I would have thought they would have tried to limit occupancy based on the square footage of the business, which I would have still rolled my eyes at, but at least there is some type of reasoning.

But no.. 5.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

https://www.governor.ny.gov/sites/go...eningGuide.pdf

New York just put out a 51 page clonker of a plan for reopening

This is why this state is doomed. The whole thing is set up for TL; DR.

It's just a campaign ad for Cuomo and his "new normal," a false premise by which he will warp the future of the state to meld with his own dictatorial vision. Filled with MUST, HAS TO, WILL sorts of directives. "Never let a crisis go to waste!"

Here are some gems:

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
Of course, it’s not plausible to be inside 100% of the time – you have to go get groceries, check the mail, and walk the dog. Still, the fact is that every minute someone’s interacting with the public, they’re increasing the risk to themselves, and they’re increasing the risk to other people. Taking unnecessary risks also disrespects the sacrifices of frontline workers. Failing to do your part could mean more people get infected, potentially overwhelming hospitals or infecting heath care workers themselves.

We will be "Wearing a mask, all the time."

REIMAGINE EDUCATION WITH BILL GATES
Going forward, we must explore ways in which our education can be reimagined, including by examining ways technology can be used to provide more opportunities to students, reduce educational inequality, and better meet the educational needs of students with disabilities.
Over the coming months, New York State will partner with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, as well as local education leaders from across the state, to convene experts and develop a blueprint to adapt our state’s education system for this new normal. To aid in the development of these plans, in early May, the State launched a Reimagine Education
Advisory Council, made up of educators, students, parents and education leaders, to help districts reimagine schools as they prepare to reopen.

CLOSING THOUGHTS
"The solutions won’t be easy – and aren’t even necessarily clear today."
[BUT WE JUST HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH 51pp. OF OUR PLANS]

BELIEVE THE DEAR LEADER
And it will require all New Yorkers to put their faith in competent elected
officials, guided by facts, rather than by optics, celebrity, and press releases.
That is what we owe our state.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

You and the New York Times deserve each other. Trump imposed the ban on January 31st, but that article points out how many flights came in from China in.......January.

And you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.

Also the flights that came in after January, as recently as one week before that article was published on April 4th.

"There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening."

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Did you really just type that? And you want to be treated like an adult?

Who said that?

Originally Posted by Whodatiz

Ah, c'mon Heelie. Don't tell me your browser search is only limited to "Orange Man Bad".

And by your definition of "groupie", jdandns is in the lead.

Hey, man, leave me out these freaky tales.
I ain't lookin' to thrupple up.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Also the flights that came in after January, as recently as one week before that article was published on April 4th.

"There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening."

I have a feeling there would've been similar outrage if he didn't let American citizens come back home.

[Astros19]

Edit.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by rcmb3220

It’s only contradictory if it’s from the same person. You know how one baseball card collector might like Heritage and another one might hate it? Then a basketball card guy says “make up your minds!”

This is a great point and would be valid in this case if we were discussing randomly selected viewpoints.

The difference here is that, while we are looking at different things being said by different people, the only reason we're even aware of them is because they are being shared, retweeted, liked, and promoted by the online communities.

In this case, I haven't seen a single instance where the claim that Trump and Pence are taking this virus super seriously has been upvoted to the top of one of these sites. One would think that if two groups of people—one which believes that the White House is not taking things seriously and one which believes that the White House is taking things seriously—had both existed all along that we would have seen this view point become popular and be shared prior to right now.

The fact that we haven't suggests that people, in large numbers, are easily swayed by whatever today's headlines are.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Astros19

You can't possibly be as dense as you come across.
Do you honestly believe no ones rebutted any of your posts by now?
Here's a clue, start at post #1 and start over. Make sure and read every post this time around, even the one's that dispute your "opinions".

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Being pretty harsh on GoTribe

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Being pretty harsh on GoTribe

I know, right. What the hell did I do to him.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by rman112

I have a feeling there would've been similar outrage if he didn't let American citizens come back home.

Trump was in a tough spot with that, no doubt, but that wasn't only Americans in that number.
His patchwork European ban was also lacking, whatever the exact reasons behind his bizarro exemptions.

[NeedChapmans]

Let's see here ... $1T to the sharks out west, $2T to the jets on the east coast and yup, federal government will just give everyone everything.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...192136575.html

Problem solved. Vote Newsom in 2028.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

I know, right. What the hell did I do to him.

That damn quote feature been acting funny all day

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Let's see here ... $1T to the sharks out west, $2T to the jets on the east coast and yup, federal government will just give everyone everything.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...192136575.html

Problem solved. Vote Newsom in 2028.

What do I get? My $1200 is running low.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Being pretty harsh on GoTribe

Weird. I didn't even quote his post, I quoted jdands.
I have to laugh when he wants to know why no one will give a rebuttal to his Trump is bad post.
There's 13,000+ posts here and I'm pretty sure he got his rebuttal several times over.
Maybe he needs to start at the beginning and reread every post to see what he missed out on.

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by GoTribe!!!

I know, right. What the hell did I do to him.

My apologies. I quoted jdands but there must have been a glitch. Not sure why it quoted you. We're all good brother.

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[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

What do I get? My $1200 is running low.

If my math is correct and we bail out the states to the tune of ~$4 trillion, then give every American $2,000 a month every month we're in a national emergency, (+$2,000 per kid) ... Trout prices are gonna go NUTS!

LOL.

[GoTribe!!!]

Originally Posted by Astros19

My apologies. I quoted jdands but there must have been a glitch. Not sure why it quoted you. We're all good brother.

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I was pretending to be as dense as others on here.
There was an issue with quotes earlier.

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

What do I get? My $1200 is running low.

If you are a Unionized Public Sector employee you may get your unfunded pension money some day. Unless Newsom uses it for Ritz Carlton hotel stays and drugs for the homeless, or just pays for a bunch more illegals to hide out there.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

If my math is correct and we bail out the states to the tune of ~$4 trillion, then give every American $2,000 a month every month we're in a national emergency, (+$2,000 per kid) ... Trout prices are gonna go NUTS!

LOL.

The $2,000 per month is retroactive back to Feb/March right?

2012 Prizm and 2016 Optic in football are taking off and I want in!

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Onions

If you are a Unionized Public Sector employee you may get your unfunded pension money some day. Unless Newsom uses it for Ritz Carlton hotel stays and drugs for the homeless, or just pays for a bunch more illegals to hide out there.

Drugs for the homeless you say. Go on, I'm listening

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Weird. I didn't even quote his post, I quoted jdands.
I have to laugh when he wants to know why no one will give a rebuttal to his Trump is bad post.
There's 13,000+ posts here and I'm pretty sure he got his rebuttal several times over.
Maybe he needs to start at the beginning and reread every post to see what he missed out on.

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He needs to make a real point. He is a human version of CNN or MSNBC chyrons.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Weird. I didn't even quote his post, I quoted jdands.
I have to laugh when he wants to know why no one will give a rebuttal to his Trump is bad post.
There's 13,000+ posts here and I'm pretty sure he got his rebuttal several times over.
Maybe he needs to start at the beginning and reread every post to see what he missed out on.

I was referring to today's posts and there'd been no rebuttals.
I see you have none either, just more insults.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

The $2,000 per month is retroactive back to Feb/March right?

2012 Prizm and 2016 Optic in football are taking off and I want in!

March, yea.

And with the higher cut-off limits, I might even qualify if I play my cards right. $8,000 a month for us.

These people have lost their minds.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by pac213up

I would not get caught up in the timing of the shutdown. Trump's failure in this whole situation is not prioritizing our capacity to test. That delay and lack of data it created made everyone's job on both sides of the aisle much harder. We did not need to wait until it was in our borders to ensure our preparedness was adequate IF a worse case scenario were to happen. That was an absolute failure by this administration.

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And here is one of he best posts of this thread that will be ignored by everyone.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

March, yea.

And with the higher cut-off limits, I might even qualify if I play my cards right. $8,000 a month for us.

These people have lost their minds.

So I'm getting $6,000 so far or do they deduct the $1200 I already got?

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

This is why this state is doomed. The whole thing is set up for TL; DR.

It's just a campaign ad for Cuomo and his "new normal," a false premise by which he will warp the future of the state to meld with his own dictatorial vision. Filled with MUST, HAS TO, WILL sorts of directives. "Never let a crisis go to waste!"

Here are some gems:

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
Of course, it’s not plausible to be inside 100% of the time – you have to go get groceries, check the mail, and walk the dog. Still, the fact is that every minute someone’s interacting with the public, they’re increasing the risk to themselves, and they’re increasing the risk to other people. Taking unnecessary risks also disrespects the sacrifices of frontline workers. Failing to do your part could mean more people get infected, potentially overwhelming hospitals or infecting heath care workers themselves.

We will be "Wearing a mask, all the time."

REIMAGINE EDUCATION WITH BILL GATES
Going forward, we must explore ways in which our education can be reimagined, including by examining ways technology can be used to provide more opportunities to students, reduce educational inequality, and better meet the educational needs of students with disabilities.
Over the coming months, New York State will partner with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, as well as local education leaders from across the state, to convene experts and develop a blueprint to adapt our state’s education system for this new normal. To aid in the development of these plans, in early May, the State launched a Reimagine Education
Advisory Council, made up of educators, students, parents and education leaders, to help districts reimagine schools as they prepare to reopen.

CLOSING THOUGHTS
"The solutions won’t be easy – and aren’t even necessarily clear today."
[BUT WE JUST HIT YOU OVER THE HEAD WITH 51pp. OF OUR PLANS]

BELIEVE THE DEAR LEADER
And it will require all New Yorkers to put their faith in competent elected
officials, guided by facts, rather than by optics, celebrity, and press releases.
That is what we owe our state.

The way things are headed is really alarming. There is nothing normal about whats going on. Scare the people, make them depend on the government, and then take away their freedoms. How long before they start to twist whats going on into getting people to give up their firearms?