Corona Virus

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by chezball

You underestimate how much the D voters like getting screwed.

This state is further gone than I'd even realized after living here for 20 years.

Big article today on how the State Attorney General was going to prevent people with civil judgments against them from having to part with a dime of their stimulus checks because she's protecting NYers' wallets. This has to be one of the best states in which to commit crime - barely anyone suffers consequences for anything.

But we all know King Andrew could have gone over to the reporter questioning him today, stabbed her fatally in the neck with a pencil, and returned to his throne to cheers and more fawning questions about all the women Fredo's wife has lined up to "date" him.

REO Speedwagon, "Time for Me to Fly" is my new theme song.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

This state is further gone than I'd even realized after living here for 20 years.

Big article today on how the State Attorney General was going to prevent people with civil judgments against them from having to part with a dime of their stimulus checks because she's protecting NYers' wallets. This has to be one of the best states in which to commit crime - barely anyone suffers consequences for anything.

But we all know King Andrew could have gone over to the reporter questioning him today, stabbed her fatally in the neck with a pencil, and returned to his throne to cheers and more fawning questions about all the women Fredo's wife has lined up to "date" him.

REO Speedwagon, "Time for Me to Fly" is my new theme song.

Don't know a woman could vote for him after that DV comment.

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by chezball

Don't know a woman could vote for him after that DV comment.

I thought the same thing after the Grab Them By The comment but, as we've seen, anything is possible.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by mattglet

I thought the same thing after the Grab Them By The comment but, as we've seen, anything is possible.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by Astros19

45,000 dead from something. From what exactly nobody knows when everybody that dies gets listed as Covid-19.

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Originally Posted by fulltritty

I could definitely get behind all of this. The only I would ask is how do volunteer firefighters, EMTs, and Paramedics get paid by the State?

You do realize that many firefighters are first due on medical emergency calls, especially ones involving cardiac arrest as it takes al lot of compressions by an EMT before they meet the minimum give up time and often a firefighter is required to take over.

Maryland already gives a tax credit of $5,000 every year to this group as long as you meat certain point criteria.

If you volunteer your work is free...
Cuomo is asking for volunteers to help and for the community to give their free time to the community. Make a difference within the area you are in and contribute something to society.

Leave the people in charge/who know EMT/firefighters to make the decisions.

I don't have enough knowledge about the topic honestly. I just know that if you are working in a hazardous environment - where you are surrounded by patients who probably have a pandemic disease, you get hazard pay.

State governments need a bailout.
Feds need to issue a huge*** package to them.

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by chezball

Don't know a woman could vote for him after that DV comment.

Boil it down to the crucks of it.

Death or Domestic Violence?

Death is absolute and undoing.
People can change and recognize what they did is wrong in DV. You can't undo death nor move on from it. It's a permanent thing. DV can be resolved - court system.

I don't condone DV and I watched it as a kid growing up. Divorced parents in 3rd grade and watched the havoc/recklessness it can bring to a family. 7 years of hell. Terrible. Scars hurt much worse where they aren't viable and my father was a straight lunatic to my mother/family (including me).That being said is it worse than if my mother or father died? Absolutely not. DV is probably a pandemic wide issue in the U.S. - Is it worse than death? Nope. You can move on and make choices to prevent that from happening and put yourself in a better position for tomorrow.

[rman112]

Pretty sure this is how NYC ends up with someone like BDB.

[rman112]

Saw a story about how some college kids are trying to curb the loneliness. A 'Find Your Quarantine Buddy' website.

Sounds like they tried ChatRoulette first, and were mortified.

[JoeAdam]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the whole point of us staying home to “flatten the curve” and did we not do that? So why not open things back up. Even if there is an initial spike, It’s pretty evident that outside of NY and NJ the medical surge didn’t materialize.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the whole point of us staying home to “flatten the curve” and did we not do that? So why not open things back up. Even if there is an initial spike, It’s pretty evident that outside of NY and NJ the medical surge didn’t materialize.

1. It's about the hospitals.
2. It's about flattening the curve.

Cut forward to now -

"Ok, looking good!"

Enter new idea -

"You idiots! We can't change anything now! Where's that vaccine?"

[bustsomewax]

Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the whole point of us staying home to “flatten the curve” and did we not do that? So why not open things back up. Even if there is an initial spike, It’s pretty evident that outside of NY and NJ the medical surge didn’t materialize.

I think many states are taking the first steps to reopening. It will not all happen at once of course. And you will have the more timid leaders sit back a couple extra weeks watching very closely how things go, when realistically, they could probably be slowly opening things too.

[Hess687]

Wife goes back to work this Monday with it looks like a re-opening of most other places by the first of the month. Welcome to Indiana!

[chezball]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

Boil it down to the crucks of it.

Death or Domestic Violence?

Death is absolute and undoing.
People can change and recognize what they did is wrong in DV. You can't undo death nor move on from it. It's a permanent thing. DV can be resolved - court system.

I don't condone DV and I watched it as a kid growing up. Divorced parents in 3rd grade and watched the havoc/recklessness it can bring to a family. 7 years of hell. Terrible. Scars hurt much worse where they aren't viable and my father was a straight lunatic to my mother/family (including me).That being said is it worse than if my mother or father died? Absolutely not. DV is probably a pandemic wide issue in the U.S. - Is it worse than death? Nope. You can move on and make choices to prevent that from happening and put yourself in a better position for tomorrow.

So in other words you voted for him. At least they got furniture.

[chezball]

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the whole point of us staying home to “flatten the curve” and did we not do that? So why not open things back up. Even if there is an initial spike, It’s pretty evident that outside of NY and NJ the medical surge didn’t materialize.

Many people feel that the surge on hospitals was avoided BECAUSE of the lock down. The challenge now is opening things up in a responsible way so that curve remains stable. Ultimately it looks like we need to figure out how to do this and protect our +65 population as it is a very serious situation for them. States have already started to move in that direction.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

If you volunteer your work is free...
Cuomo is asking for volunteers to help and for the community to give their free time to the community. Make a difference within the area you are in and contribute something to society.

Leave the people in charge/who know EMT/firefighters to make the decisions.

I don't have enough knowledge about the topic honestly. I just know that if you are working in a hazardous environment - where you are surrounded by patients who probably have a pandemic disease, you get hazard pay.

State governments need a bailout.
Feds need to issue a huge*** package to them.

I think you are confused on volunteers. I'm not talking about someone like me who would go to to a hospital and volunteer to help in the pandemic if they would have me.

Most of the firefighters, EMTs, and Paramedics in the US are not paid. They are all part of Volunteer Fire Departments, Ambulance Services, Rescue Squads, etc. They are the ones outside of the major cities who are coming into contact everyday with COVID-19 patients. They should be getting hazardous pay if you are going to pay extra money to the paid crews.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

If you volunteer your work is free...
Cuomo is asking for volunteers to help and for the community to give their free time to the community. Make a difference within the area you are in and contribute something to society.

Leave the people in charge/who know EMT/firefighters to make the decisions.

I don't have enough knowledge about the topic honestly. I just know that if you are working in a hazardous environment - where you are surrounded by patients who probably have a pandemic disease, you get hazard pay.

State governments need a bailout.
Feds need to issue a huge*** package to them.

The Federal Government should only bail out States for debt they are incurring due to the pandemic as in medical costs, etc. They should not bail them out for their previous debt issues or their pay and pensions for Unionized teachers, school administrators, and State Government employees. All this will lead to is a State waiting longer to re-open their economy if they know the Federal Government will pay for them to be closed and it will also allow them to continue their horrible policies and build more debt up knowing the Federal Government will wipe it out.

[carlo16]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

The Federal Government should only bail out States for debt they are incurring due to the pandemic as in medical costs, etc. They should not bail them out for their previous debt issues or their pay and pensions for Unionized teachers, school administrators, and State Government employees. All this will lead to is a State waiting longer to re-open their economy if they know the Federal Government will pay for them to be closed and it will also allow them to continue their horrible policies and build more debt up knowing the Federal Government will wipe it out.

As long as the states don’t bailout cities for out of control pension obligations to police and fire, many of whom can start collecting when they’ve barely reached middle age.

[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by carlo16

As long as the states don’t bailout cities for out of control pension obligations to police and fire, many of whom can start collecting when they’ve barely reached middle age.

That is exactly the issue. Those two groups in particular get pensions far more generous than anyone..public or private. Just outrageously excessive and able to collect at a very young age.

[JoeAdam]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Many people feel that the surge on hospitals was avoided BECAUSE of the lock down. The challenge now is opening things up in a responsible way so that curve remains stable. Ultimately it looks like we need to figure out how to do this and protect our +65 population as it is a very serious situation for them. States have already started to move in that direction.

Agreed, the lockdown prevented the surge. But when did the goal change to maintaining the curve?

[fulltritty]

Another 4.4 million added to the unemployment rolls last week.

[awz50]

On a plane right now

It is completely full

[Joan p]

Originally Posted by awz50

On a plane right now

It is completely full

Is it a Cessna?


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[cnewby]

Originally Posted by awz50

On a plane right now

It is completely full

Model airplanes dont count.

[DegaBama]

The amount of articles CNN is rolling out about the Spanish flu comparison is pretty ridiculous. We get it, you want to go into a Great Depression.