Corona Virus - Page 245

TheHeel · 03-27-2020, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

If I’ve learned anything, it’s that Twitter posts are the most viable source of factual information.

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hairysasquatch · 03-27-2020, 06:19 AM

Whoever originally leaked that draft document of the Henry Ford Health System doomsday plan for ventilator allocation is a first rate scumbag. Social media is going to destroy this country. People will Tweet about it live.

Joan p · 03-27-2020, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

Whoever originally leaked that draft document of the Henry Ford Health System doomsday plan for ventilator allocation is a first rate scumbag. Social media is going to destroy this country. People will Tweet about it live.

Agreed

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rcmb3220 · 03-27-2020, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chezball

Could be true but that’s a worthless source.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

Seriously you guys can go #@#@#@#@ yourselves, there is nothing funny about this letter, and if you'd look at my profile and see that I'm from Detroit, where this letter is from, you shouldn't be making jokes like that.

All you #@#@#@#@s saying we're not going to turn into Italy because 'Murica, well maybe not as a whole country, but certain parts of it are absolutely about to be picking and choosing who gets ventilators to have a chance to survive and who dies, and apparently my area is getting very close to that right now.

#@#@#@#@ you all

Having a hard time filling in those blanks. First one has to be hug, 2nd one has to be cool people and last one has to be love. Just type the words out and don’t make us guess.

I do have a question. Have you been sipping on the tap water in Detroit? Not sure if you’re aware but it might be dangerous.

Dbacksbaseball · 03-27-2020, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

Seriously you guys can go #@#@#@#@ yourselves, there is nothing funny about this letter, and if you'd look at my profile and see that I'm from Detroit, where this letter is from, you shouldn't be making jokes like that.

All you #@#@#@#@s saying we're not going to turn into Italy because 'Murica, well maybe not as a whole country, but certain parts of it are absolutely about to be picking and choosing who gets ventilators to have a chance to survive and who dies, and apparently my area is getting very close to that right now.

#@#@#@#@ you all

Quoted for the Vacation another one of from this group is about to take.

Happy Friday. I have a case of cards coming in. I am excited to have some 'normalcy' today.

trixstar · 03-27-2020, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bustsomewax

This looks fake. What is the source?

The actual Hospital is the source.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

The actual Hospital is the source.

Found it and here was the Henry Ford Health System response tweet:

"With a pandemic, we must be prepared for worst case," the tweet said. "With collective wisdom from our industry, we crafted a policy to provide guidance for making difficult patient care decisions. We hope never to have to apply them. We will always utilize every resource to care for our patients."

Then said:

“With a pandemic of this nature, health systems must be prepared for a worst case scenario. Gathering the collective wisdom from across our industry, we carefully crafted our policy to provide critical guidance to healthcare workers for making difficult patient care decisions during an unprecedented emergency. These guidelines are deeply patient focused, intended to be honoring to patients and families. We shared our policy with our colleagues across Michigan to help others develop similar, compassionate approaches. It is our hope we never have to apply them and we will always do everything we can to care for our patients, utilizing every resource we have to make that happen."

trixstar · 03-27-2020, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Found it and here was the Henry Ford Health System response tweet:

"With a pandemic, we must be prepared for worst case," the tweet said. "With collective wisdom from our industry, we crafted a policy to provide guidance for making difficult patient care decisions. We hope never to have to apply them. We will always utilize every resource to care for our patients."

I don't really give a sh*t if it was a worst case scenario. If your reaction is OMG this should never have seen the light of day then my reaction is that means it absolutely should see the light of day. I don't care if there's a 1/100,000 chance of it happening. People should know. The hospital has already confirmed it's real even if it hasn't been activated. The very possibility that it could be activated means it should be known.

BostonNut · 03-27-2020, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

You do realize if the equal opposite of this post was made you'd call it Fear Mongering and Fake News, right?

That's your M.O.

Also, those are respiratory issues right there, which is exactly what the Coronavirus attacks.

Very real possibility those were people who were awaiting test results and they came in after they died and thus the change was made.

The irony in you of all people posting something like this is just so rich, you're the biggest user of "TDS" "Fake News" and "Fear Mongering" verbiage on this entire site.

I'd like to do a social experiment and take away all of your devices and ways to access the internet. Would you curl up into the fetal position? Or would you get outside and live your life?

Try the latter. You're going to give yourself an ulcer, stroke, and heart attack.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

I don't really give a sh*t if it was a worst case scenario. If your reaction is OMG this should never have seen the light of day then my reaction is that means it absolutely should see the light of day. I don't care if there's a 1/100,000 chance of it happening. People should know. The hospital has already confirmed it's real even if it hasn't been activated. The very possibility that it could be activated means it should be known.

What part of the letter do you have issue with or is “shocking”? Thought this was all known?

smanzari · 03-27-2020, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zonacats8

Seriously you guys can go #@#@#@#@ yourselves, there is nothing funny about this letter, and if you'd look at my profile and see that I'm from Detroit, where this letter is from, you shouldn't be making jokes like that.

All you #@#@#@#@s saying we're not going to turn into Italy because 'Murica, well maybe not as a whole country, but certain parts of it are absolutely about to be picking and choosing who gets ventilators to have a chance to survive and who dies, and apparently my area is getting very close to that right now.

#@#@#@#@ you all

Hey man, not everyone is down playing it/making it a joke, I think that's just the way some people are dealing (or are just that ignorant)

This letter also scares me, as I have grandparents/family in the Brighton area (some who aren't doing the greatest in the first place). Additionally, my Dad is out there fighting on the first lines (as an ER Doc) and had been sharing information (which I was discussing here, but a few people think they are the smarter than others and were saying it was "fake" or not real, despite it being forwarded from his health team so I quit sharing) . I'd recommend hanging on another forum/news source (such as a few subreddits) and only temporarily checking here (I've realized a lot of my stress is coming from the ignorance of others). Stay Safe up there in the Mitten!

Also, that letter or one similar is also coming to a Hospital near most- it is definitely a reason to worry!

base set · 03-27-2020, 08:09 AM

5-14 day incubation period. The future is uncertain and the end is always near, the man sang.

Lombardy - direct connection to Wuhan. Michigan - 2 words - “Fiat-Chrysler”

Summer Is Coming - I think what happens in Mexico and some other near-Equatorial countries over the next few weeks will be fairly illuminating. Though most Equatorial countries are more poor than northern countries. Maybe Israel and the Gulf Arab countries will be good examples of what summer will be like living with this.

What will re-open the economy is consumer confidence, not only government decisions. If people don’t feel safe visiting a business it can’t stay open anyway. Mass testing will slowly grow that confidence. Re-opening will also happen area by area (and by business activity), perhaps even workspace by workspace. Places with a low ceiling, high person density, and a lot of talking are riskier than other types of workspaces.

SleeperCards · 03-27-2020, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Or would you get outside and live your life?

Try the latter.

This is nearly as bad as NeedsChapmans telling people to go play baseball and visit grandma. Why do people insist on giving stupid advice? Is it a macho thing? A defiance thing?

Medical community: Stay isolated to prevent spread
Blowout community: go outside and live ur life dood

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

This is nearly as bad as NeedsChapmans telling people to go play baseball and visit grandma. Why do people insist on giving stupid advice? Is it a macho thing? A defiance thing?

Medical community: Stay isolated to prevent spread
Blowout community: go outside and live ur life dood

So don’t go outside at all?

Joan p · 03-27-2020, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

I know Russia and China have a bunch of bots on twitter to spread their propaganda, wonder if they got any on here

Nyet

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SleeperCards · 03-27-2020, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

So don’t go outside at all?

You have 37k posts, don't pretend like you've seen the sun this year.

BostonNut · 03-27-2020, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

This is nearly as bad as NeedsChapmans telling people to go play baseball and visit grandma. Why do people insist on giving stupid advice? Is it a macho thing? A defiance thing?

Medical community: Stay isolated to prevent spread
Blowout community: go outside and live ur life dood

Read between the lines.

I'll sum it up for those of you who don't understand my point.

STOP WORRYING ABOUT THINGS YOU CANNOT CONTROL.

What good is it doing you????

Do you best to social distance yourself and do your best to take care of your loved ones and that's all you can do.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

You have 37k posts, don't pretend like you've seen the sun this year.

Hahaha, these iPhones are handy. I’ve been to the beach, fishing and on walking trails the last few weeks.

You know what BNut was referring to. Stop playing dumb. Dude has lost his marbles being so wound up about this. Him getting outside for fresh air is a good thing. You can’t live like that. You’re just as bad as Zona at this point.

SleeperCards · 03-27-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Read between the lines.

I'll sum it up for those of you who don't understand my point.

STOP WORRYING ABOUT THINGS YOU CANNOT CONTROL.

What good is it doing you????

Do you best to social distance yourself and do your best to take care of your loved ones and that's all you can do.

A much better message.

NeedChapmans · 03-27-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

This is nearly as bad as NeedsChapmans telling people to go play baseball and visit grandma. Why do people insist on giving stupid advice? Is it a macho thing? A defiance thing?

Medical community: Stay isolated to prevent spread
Blowout community: go outside and live ur life dood

Grandma is good by the way. I've got a chocolate babka and a game of pinochle with my name on it this weekend; not gonna let my brother/grandmother tag team win this time.

Aunt Christine better step up her game! Keeps floating meld bids that come up short.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

A much better message.

Same message but you knew that.

SleeperCards · 03-27-2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Same message but you knew that.

Or it was intentionally antagonizing someone who obviously isn't able to just go outside and live their life. The second post is much better, there's no room for interpretation and it has a positive message.

Siberian13 · 03-27-2020, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Or it was intentionally antagonizing someone who obviously isn't able to just go outside and live their life. The second post is much better, there's no room for interpretation and it has a positive message.

Ok now I’m not sure you’re playing dumb

BostonNut · 03-27-2020, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Or it was intentionally antagonizing someone who obviously isn't able to just go outside and live their life. The second post is much better, there's no room for interpretation and it has a positive message.

And he isn't antagonizing the masses on here???

He is fear mongering and hiding behind the aunt (and now recently mom and dad) veil.

03-27-2020, 06:19 AM	#6102
hairysasquatch Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the Woods, Central NY Posts: 36,786	Whoever originally leaked that draft document of the Henry Ford Health System doomsday plan for ventilator allocation is a first rate scumbag. Social media is going to destroy this country. People will Tweet about it live. __________________ I am going signature-free

03-27-2020, 08:09 AM	#6113
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,595	5-14 day incubation period. The future is uncertain and the end is always near, the man sang. Lombardy - direct connection to Wuhan. Michigan - 2 words - “Fiat-Chrysler” Summer Is Coming - I think what happens in Mexico and some other near-Equatorial countries over the next few weeks will be fairly illuminating. Though most Equatorial countries are more poor than northern countries. Maybe Israel and the Gulf Arab countries will be good examples of what summer will be like living with this. What will re-open the economy is consumer confidence, not only government decisions. If people don’t feel safe visiting a business it can’t stay open anyway. Mass testing will slowly grow that confidence. Re-opening will also happen area by area (and by business activity), perhaps even workspace by workspace. Places with a low ceiling, high person density, and a lot of talking are riskier than other types of workspaces.