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Old 03-14-2020, 09:20 PM   #2401
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This is beyond the dumbest thing I’ve seen written in this thread. CONGRATS!
Well, I guess in my life I may get one award then.
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Okay then, explain to me why what is happening in Italy right now has no chance of happening here, I'll wait........

As I've seen you say nothing but call me stupid, haven't seen you give one coherent response as to why what is happening there has no chance of also happening here.

And FYI, this has NOTHING to do with my Aunt or anyone else in my family at this point, it's about the elderly and sick citizens of this country as a whole.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:22 PM   #2403
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Not sure if posted already. What an Idiot. Hope he feels good about himself. Moron.

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Old 03-14-2020, 09:23 PM   #2404
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This would be much better discussion if we had some parameters. I certainly did not mean to call you stupid, that was a fault of mine, and I apologize. I understand your concern for the frail and elderly in this country...I just wonder if you understand death?
I absolutely understand death, and I'll keep this one short

Doctors in Italy are having to choose who gets put on respirators (and similar machines) to have a chance at survival and choose who gets nothing and in turn have almost no shot at survival and then die.

That's not a guess, it's not a prediction, it's not a scenario, it is literally what is happening.

How is that okay? How is it okay for the same to potentially happen here?
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I must be missing the point of this. You could literally type anything in the address bar after the wsj.com part and get that result.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:26 PM   #2406
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Well, I guess in my life I may get one award then.
You definitely have Gold and Silver so far for the thread.

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What concerns me more is the understanding of the virus. I will not get into what I know, or don't, or specifics for legal reasons. But we could (and may!) talk for hours about why this doesn't really make sense to ME (no one else).
I’m still on the edge of my seat from the Clancy-esque cliffhanger you dropped last night.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:28 PM   #2407
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Not sure if posted already. What an Idiot. Hope he feels good about himself. Moron.

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Old 03-14-2020, 09:29 PM   #2409
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I must be missing the point of this. You could literally type anything in the address bar after the wsj.com part and get that result.
what do you expect when they have "muppets vs goldman sachs" as a favorite on their browser
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:31 PM   #2410
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I absolutely understand death, and I'll keep this one short

Doctors in Italy are having to choose who gets put on respirators (and similar machines) to have a chance at survival and choose who gets nothing and in turn have almost no shot at survival and then die.

That's not a guess, it's not a prediction, it's not a scenario, it is literally what is happening.

How is that okay? How is it okay for the same to potentially happen here?
Because that has been happening forever.

Stop calling them respirators. You reveal the fact you are not in medicine. The are ventilators, and in most hospitals require respiratory therapists to run them at night, because I am too tired.
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Because that has been happening forever.

Stop calling them respirators. You reveal the fact you are not in medicine. The are ventilators, and in most hospitals require respiratory therapists to run them at night, because I am too tired.
That is not been happening forever at the rate it is happening right now and in this way.

If you walk into a good hospital in this country with a problem the odds are unbelievably low for them to say, "sorry, we have the machines to help you but they're all used up" and if that is the case, the odds are they can transfer you to another hospital that can help.

That is not what is happening in Italy right now, they have X number of proper machines but Multiple X number of patients who need them.

And sorry for using "respirator" as opposed to "ventilator" but if that's what you're getting hung up on, then that's just sad as yea, I'm not doctor, but I'd be willing to bet everyone knows what is meant by that, you're the first person to ever say that in here.

So sure, I'll admit it then, I used the wrong medical term for the machine that can help people battling the virus, cool, it doesn't make everything else incorrect, far from it.

Again, I'm not just spouting off conspiracy theories, I'm just repeating what is going on there right now, how can you actually refute that?
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:39 PM   #2412
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You definitely have Gold and Silver so far for the thread.



I’m still on the edge of my seat from the Clancy-esque cliffhanger you dropped last night.
Do I? I guess I am old and do not know what makes a good thread or not. Did not mean to offend, but apparently I have.

I also have not read any Tom Clancy, and since I'm 5 hours ahead right now I ned to go to sleep soon. Maybe I'll pick it up tomorrow.

Geech, I hope you have a good night.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:40 PM   #2413
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That is not been happening forever at the rate it is happening right now and in this way.

If you walk into a good hospital in this country with a problem the odds are unbelievably low for them to say, "sorry, we have the machines to help you but they're all used up" and if that is the case, the odds are they can transfer you to another hospital that can help.

That is not what is happening in Italy right now, they have X number of proper machines but Multiple X number of patients who need them.

And sorry for using "respirator" as opposed to "ventilator" but if that's what you're getting hung up on, then that's just sad as yea, I'm not doctor, but I'd be willing to bet everyone knows what is meant by that, you're the first person to ever say that in here.

So sure, I'll admit it then, I used the wrong medical term for the machine that can help people battling the virus, cool, it doesn't make everything else incorrect, far from it.

Again, I'm not just spouting off conspiracy theories, I'm just repeating what is going on there right now, how can you actually refute that?
Yeah, but I'm a doctor. It's getting tiring.
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Which means the whole point of me joining this board, which was to discuss early 90's cards, is done.

I still love early Ovations BTW.
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Yeah, but I'm a doctor. It's getting tiring.
When I look at experts predicting huge numbers, I see them taking advantage of the failsafe that the shutdown has provided. "See, I was right", vs. being low on death numbers, and having their own brand hurt.
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Yeah, but I'm a doctor. It's getting tiring.
And to all the doctors who are talking about how what is happening in Italy right now can very well happen here if we aren't careful, are they all just stupid people as well who are a problem for intelligent people and are causing harm with their lack of education?

Watch any news channel other than Fox News for 1 hour and you will see numerous doctors saying all of these same things.

But yea, I guess they're just a bunch of sophomoric, uneducated, and weak people as well.
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Tom Hanks and his wife have been making Spotify playlists for others in quarantine.

Seems like they are doing ok.
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Tom Hanks and his wife have been making Spotify playlists for others in quarantine.

Seems like they are doing ok.
Is it just "I will survive" on repeat?
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Tom Hanks and his wife have been making Spotify playlists for others in quarantine.

Seems like they are doing ok.
I really hope this was just a statement and not an argument against concerns.

It's not about people not being okay, 97% of the people (if not more) who contract the virus will be okay.

And yes, some will die and that's unfortunate too.

But it's about not having people die due to hospital overcrowding that didn't need to happen, because that's not okay.
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And to all the doctors who are talking about how what is happening in Italy right now can very well happen here if we aren't careful, are they all just stupid people as well who are a problem for intelligent people and are causing harm with their lack of education?

Watch any news channel other than Fox News for 1 hour and you will see numerous doctors saying all of these same things.

But yea, I guess they're just a bunch of sophomoric, uneducated, and weak people as well.
So it depends on what news channel you watch. This tells me all you want to do is blame Trump. All of your views are based on biased news coverage. We get it. You hate Trump.
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And to all the doctors who are talking about how what is happening in Italy right now can very well happen here if we aren't careful, are they all just stupid people as well who are a problem for intelligent people and are causing harm with their lack of education?

Watch any news channel other than Fox News for 1 hour and you will see numerous doctors saying all of these same things.

But yea, I guess they're just a bunch of sophomoric, uneducated, and weak people as well.
Don't get your panties twisted because I called you a name.

I watch CNN, Al Jazeera, and whatever I can find over here. Including Fox.

I actually do understand immunology. As do many of my colleagues. This is not as big of a deal as you are trying to make it out to be in my opinion, but I COULD BE WRONG. It's just, y'know, I happened to have studied this. And not on Google.

And again, because I abhor how we act on the internet, I wish you nothing but the best and wish you well.
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Wow, this is very generous if serious. I'll try to do my part.
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