[Chatter] Whats on your mind

[Morgoth]

Set up at strictly comic-con for the first time and here are my thoughts

1. Not many dealers selling comics.
2. Spider-man comics sell really well.
3. Graded comics sold very well too, which was surprising given 4.
4. All dealers told me it was a waste of time selling graded comics at smaller cons and that off grade keys is were the money is at.
5. Cosplayers and furries don't buy comics.
6. I had too many people manhandle, open up comics and flip every page and set things down on books to list. Its crazy people don't know how to handle books.
7. People don't understand that e-bay charges tax and getting a book for $85 on ebay is like paying $110 in person with shipping. Trying to tell someone that $90 is cheaper at the show is cheaper than $85 on ebay went nowhere.
8. I brought some Timely books to the show and was the only dealer with golden age. I actually sold a few.

[Magickyak]

Well Rhode Island Comic con got hammered it seems... I was planning on going tomorrow but they lost both Gerry Conway and Denny O'Neil. I was planning on bringing 8 books to get signed but every book was going to be signed by one of those two. That sure put a damper on my weekend, although it will save me a ton of money. I guess I'll still make the trip but it will be strictly to drop off a 25 book modern submission and to do some shopping. I'd been holding onto these books for a while looking forward to those autographs. Particularly getting my Tomb of Dracula signed by Neal Adams and Gerry Conway and I recently bought a Batman 251 for Neal and Denny and was hoping to pick up a 227 for them as well at the show.

[Magickyak]

How not to list a comic auction-

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Marvel-comi...p2047675.l2557


I was going to bid on this even before I noticed the George Perez sigs on both Infinity Gauntlet books

[Darth]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Set up at strictly comic-con for the first time and here are my thoughts

1. Not many dealers selling comics.
2. Spider-man comics sell really well.
3. Graded comics sold very well too, which was surprising given 4.
4. All dealers told me it was a waste of time selling graded comics at smaller cons and that off grade keys is were the money is at.
5. Cosplayers and furries don't buy comics.
6. I had too many people manhandle, open up comics and flip every page and set things down on books to list. Its crazy people don't know how to handle books.
7. People don't understand that e-bay charges tax and getting a book for $85 on ebay is like paying $110 in person with shipping. Trying to tell someone that $90 is cheaper at the show is cheaper than $85 on ebay went nowhere.
8. I brought some Timely books to the show and was the only dealer with golden age. I actually sold a few.

Don't forget sellers make much less then 85 Dollars on ebay. Typically, I sell 15% off ebay price since I'm not paying their fees...

[Magickyak]

I just started selling through MyComicShop and while I really like their listing process for auctioning books and they seem to get fair prices (assuming my 9.8 3x Signed Infinity Gauntlet 1 gets some more bids in the next couple closing days of the auction) when it comes to submitting raw books their in house "graders" seem sadistically ignorant of how comics are graded. I graded over 100 books through CGC last year and I was pretty close on most of them, and I actually undergraded many. It seems as though MyComicShop takes what would be a fair grade estimate and then knocks it down by about 3 grades minimum.

So I'm conflicted. They actually pay very good prices for books when you sell to them. But when I think I'm selling them a NM book for $7, and they call it a VF and offer me $4, well I'm happy to sell it for $4 but I'm incredibly annoyed at them essentially saying I don't know how to grade books. The difference between a 9.6 and an 8.5 ANYONE should be able to tell. I submitted a Gen 13 variant to them signed by JSC I estimated at an 8.0 due to 3 spine dings, one of them quite noticeable, and they called the book a 4.5 and offered me 30 cents. A book that is a 4.5 should look like it was buried underground, not a modern book with 3 spine dings. Another book I submitted was an 8.5 which they called a 6.5. I requested both of these books back, and I'll be grading the 8.5 through CGC this year just to confirm my accuracy, but I don't think I'll be submitting raws through them anymore unless it's dollar bin fodder that no one else will take and I'd gladly take a 50 cent offer for. (Most of the raws I send them were this case- so I was happy to get the $1 or two they offered for books I never would've sold otherwise.)

I'm just venting I suppose. I know I've got a fair grasp on grading. I'm hardly perfect, but my CGC submission thread hopefully shows that if I submit 20 books they shouldn't ALL come back 3+ grades lower than expected. However the businessman in me wonders if this isn't to be used to my advantage. I've always felt MCS overprices their books they have for sale, but now I'm thinking it's because their grades aren't accurate. If I can buy a 5.0 from them at a little more than what I 5.0 should cost, will it actually be a 7.0? Can I buy 9.0/9.2s from them that have a shot at 9.6/9.8? I think this will be my next step in trying to get a feel for how they grade books. One of the books I sold they they didn't have any of in stock, so I'm also waiting for them to make that book available for sale on their site to see if they actually list it at the grade they told me it was or if they'll bump it after the fact.

Again, just venting due to being incredibly annoyed and a bit offended they are insinuating I can't tell the difference between an 8.0 and a 4.5

[MRSPORTSCARD]

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Set up at strictly comic-con for the first time and here are my thoughts

1. Not many dealers selling comics.
2. Spider-man comics sell really well.
3. Graded comics sold very well too, which was surprising given 4.
4. All dealers told me it was a waste of time selling graded comics at smaller cons and that off grade keys is were the money is at.
5. Cosplayers and furries don't buy comics.
6. I had too many people manhandle, open up comics and flip every page and set things down on books to list. Its crazy people don't know how to handle books.
7. People don't understand that e-bay charges tax and getting a book for $85 on ebay is like paying $110 in person with shipping. Trying to tell someone that $90 is cheaper at the show is cheaper than $85 on ebay went nowhere.
8. I brought some Timely books to the show and was the only dealer with golden age. I actually sold a few.

So true about Cosplayers and furries. No pockets or purses.

[Donkaylove]

Originally Posted by Magickyak

I just started selling through MyComicShop and while I really like their listing process for auctioning books and they seem to get fair prices (assuming my 9.8 3x Signed Infinity Gauntlet 1 gets some more bids in the next couple closing days of the auction) when it comes to submitting raw books their in house "graders" seem sadistically ignorant of how comics are graded. I graded over 100 books through CGC last year and I was pretty close on most of them, and I actually undergraded many. It seems as though MyComicShop takes what would be a fair grade estimate and then knocks it down by about 3 grades minimum.

So I'm conflicted. They actually pay very good prices for books when you sell to them. But when I think I'm selling them a NM book for $7, and they call it a VF and offer me $4, well I'm happy to sell it for $4 but I'm incredibly annoyed at them essentially saying I don't know how to grade books. The difference between a 9.6 and an 8.5 ANYONE should be able to tell. I submitted a Gen 13 variant to them signed by JSC I estimated at an 8.0 due to 3 spine dings, one of them quite noticeable, and they called the book a 4.5 and offered me 30 cents. A book that is a 4.5 should look like it was buried underground, not a modern book with 3 spine dings. Another book I submitted was an 8.5 which they called a 6.5. I requested both of these books back, and I'll be grading the 8.5 through CGC this year just to confirm my accuracy, but I don't think I'll be submitting raws through them anymore unless it's dollar bin fodder that no one else will take and I'd gladly take a 50 cent offer for. (Most of the raws I send them were this case- so I was happy to get the $1 or two they offered for books I never would've sold otherwise.)

I'm just venting I suppose. I know I've got a fair grasp on grading. I'm hardly perfect, but my CGC submission thread hopefully shows that if I submit 20 books they shouldn't ALL come back 3+ grades lower than expected. However the businessman in me wonders if this isn't to be used to my advantage. I've always felt MCS overprices their books they have for sale, but now I'm thinking it's because their grades aren't accurate. If I can buy a 5.0 from them at a little more than what I 5.0 should cost, will it actually be a 7.0? Can I buy 9.0/9.2s from them that have a shot at 9.6/9.8? I think this will be my next step in trying to get a feel for how they grade books. One of the books I sold they they didn't have any of in stock, so I'm also waiting for them to make that book available for sale on their site to see if they actually list it at the grade they told me it was or if they'll bump it after the fact.

Again, just venting due to being incredibly annoyed and a bit offended they are insinuating I can't tell the difference between an 8.0 and a 4.5

Tried them twice, they already have your books, then undergrade as a “convenience”, and then ask if you want to have books sent back it was just a waste of time. I consider myself above novice for grading books. What’s funnier is that I spent a lot of time trying to “nail” the grade for fun. They ruined it AND they sell trimmed books-buyer beware

[Magickyak]

Originally Posted by Donkaylove

Tried them twice, they already have your books, then undergrade as a “convenience”, and then ask if you want to have books sent back it was just a waste of time. I consider myself above novice for grading books. What’s funnier is that I spent a lot of time trying to “nail” the grade for fun. They ruined it AND they sell trimmed books-buyer beware

Yeah, it's too bad. I sent them a beautiful Art Adams Squirrel Girl #1 1:25 Variant, and they're calling it a 7.0 The only reason I sent it to them is because it was signed by Art Adams and Erica Henderson, and while it's a nice book, it wasn't worth the $70 or whatever it would've cost me to have the signatures verified through CBCS. I figured I'll just sell it raw as I was certain they'd grade it a 9.2-9.6- somewhere in that range. I'm not sure how they came to a 7.0 unless they downgraded it for marker on the cover =P

That aside though- My first set of CGC slabs have ended in the MCS auction and couldn't believe some of the results I got. I've been trying to sell my 3x Signed Infinity Gauntlet #1 9.8 for $250 for months with no bites and a bunch of lowball offers. When I sent a submission to test the waters, that was my "higher end" book I used along with mid-grade and low end books to see how various types sell through MCS. It ended up selling for $350! So $100 over my expectation will definitely keep me coming back to auction CGC books though them.

I also bailed myself out of a mistake I made when I bought a set of Hulk 377s at the height of the hype for that issue. I paid $50 for a set of 1'st and 2'nd print raws, and I thought the 1'st would be a 9.8 but I guess CGC saw a little bit of rust on the staple that I didn't see and took it down to a 9.4, and the 2'nd print graded the same. I had also paid to have them signed and graded by Bob McLeod at a convention so with that I was in the hole $150 for the 2 issues. ($50 books, $40 autos, $60 grading) I had posted these books everywhere asking for $50-60 each, but no one was even interested in them enough to offer anything on them. I sent my 1'st print in with my first MCS submission- the dang thing sells for $100! $90 of that goes to me, so now if I can just get close to the same with my 2'nd print I can at least break even if not make a little bit after all that.

I LOVE their auction dashboard and it's very easy to add and remove books and to switch between listing them for sale, moving them to auction, and changing auction dates. It's just their grading... It's such a bitter feeling when everything else about them is so great. And you know they must know that their grading isn't at all accurate. You don't sell as many comics as they do and not know how to grade.

I'll be listing my undergraded raw books in the next auction, so I'm interested to see what kind of prices they get. If their buyers are aware that the books will always grade higher than they're listed as I suppose they might be willing to pay more.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by Magickyak

My first set of CGC slabs have ended in the MCS auction and couldn't believe some of the results I got. I've been trying to sell my 3x Signed Infinity Gauntlet #1 9.8 for $250 for months with no bites and a bunch of lowball offers. When I sent a submission to test the waters, that was my "higher end" book I used along with mid-grade and low end books to see how various types sell through MCS. It ended up selling for $350!

This is exactly what I was telling you. Higher concentration of comic buyers for their auctions typically get me higher premiums on books, glad it's working out for you!

[oldgoldy97]

Batman 89 sold out at Midtown? I know why but it ends my run

I’ll have to get one elsewhere.

[Cyber Warrior]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Batman 89 sold out at Midtown? I know why but it ends my run

I’ll have to get one elsewhere.

Yep already in second printing. What's everyone's thoughts on this one? It's a cameo with Hell Arisen #3 as first appearance. Also announced I believe was a Harley V Punchline book in the future. Wondering if I should invest in some copies.. while sold out it seems the market will be flooded. They announced Punchline while Diamond was still taking orders for books..I'd imagine it's going to be a large print run.

[fastballspecial]

Originally Posted by Cyber Warrior

Yep already in second printing. What's everyone's thoughts on this one? It's a cameo with Hell Arisen #3 as first appearance. Also announced I believe was a Harley V Punchline book in the future. Wondering if I should invest in some copies.. while sold out it seems the market will be flooded. They announced Punchline while Diamond was still taking orders for books..I'd imagine it's going to be a large print run.

The print run wont matter on the Batman book at first. Everyone will see them sell out and think its hard to find. A few days later when the Huge mail orders start to show up and even some pre sale orders they price will come down some. At that point or about 5 to 7 days after we will get a good idea of the true price.

At this point its still massive speculation. Everyone is on this book no one missed it. Keep all that in mind if you are paying the bleed price for a copy. Sure it could be the next Harley or the next Joker's daughter. Tread with caution.

[Cyber Warrior]

Originally Posted by fastballspecial

The print run wont matter on the Batman book at first. Everyone will see them sell out and think its hard to find. A few days later when the Huge mail orders start to show up and even some pre sale orders they price will come down some. At that point or about 5 to 7 days after we will get a good idea of the true price.

At this point its still massive speculation. Everyone is on this book no one missed it. Keep all that in mind if you are paying the bleed price for a copy. Sure it could be the next Harley or the next Joker's daughter. Tread with caution.

Thanks, good points..was kind of thinking the same. But wondering about long term potential. At first I figured she'd be killed off or something but if they're already announcing Harley vs Punchline books it could have some staying power depending on how they develope the character and how reader's respond.. as of now I believe shes just one of the Joker's assassin's/henchmen which doesn't sound very exciting. But if they keep her around as an antagonist for Harley it could get interesting. I'm leaning more towards it's just a quick flip for now and won't last long term.

[Netter]

Originally Posted by Cyber Warrior

Thanks, good points..was kind of thinking the same. But wondering about long term potential. At first I figured she'd be killed off or something but if they're already announcing Harley vs Punchline books it could have some staying power depending on how they develope the character and how reader's respond.. as of now I believe shes just one of the Joker's assassin's/henchmen which doesn't sound very exciting. But if they keep her around as an antagonist for Harley it could get interesting. I'm leaning more towards it's just a quick flip for now and won't last long term.

If you can get them for cover, flip them while the fire is stoked - Batman is easily one of (if not THE) most heavily ordered/printed books in the DC stable, and the print is going to be nowhere as low as something like Harley's 1st appearance (remember, that book was basically a kid's book, and retailers, if they ordered it at all, ordered it for a specific type of customer (completionist/ batman-fan/kid).

[Magickyak]

The one thing I hate about selling at auction is that sending out a shipment of 25 slabbed books always worries the hell out of me that they'll be damaged in shipping. I just sent a package UPS and it arrived in Texas (destination) after 3 days. The next day I noticed that it still hadn't been checked into my account as received so I rechecked the UPS tracking. Instead of arriving in Texas to be delivered, it arrived in Texas to be put on a truck to freaking Minnesota! Idiots. So that's at least 3-4 more unnecessary loads/unloads that the package shouldn't have had which is where possible damage can occur. Not to mention a 6 day delay in delivery now. Come on, UPS...

[rokstarr99]

Sooo what’s up with Batman Beyond #1. I found one in my closet and was surprised to see what raw copies go for.

[Darth]

Originally Posted by rokstarr99

Sooo what’s up with Batman Beyond #1. I found one in my closet and was surprised to see what raw copies go for.

There are a bunch of versions. You should make sure it's the first print.

[rokstarr99]

Originally Posted by Darth

There are a bunch of versions. You should make sure it's the first print.

I get that it’s the first appearance of Bruce Wayne’s successor, but the animated version. Just seems like a low end key. Pretty sure this is a first print.


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[rokstarr99]

. Natali Sanders at C2E2... almost makes me want to start collecting modern again.


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[Magickyak]

Originally Posted by Magickyak

Instead of arriving in Texas to be delivered, it arrived in Texas to be put on a truck to freaking Minnesota! Idiots. So that's at least 3-4 more unnecessary loads/unloads that the package shouldn't have had which is where possible damage can occur.

Aaaannnd it did. 5 of my 25 slabs have been check in to MyComicShop and so far I have 1 cracked book. Luckily it isn't one of my higher end books (yet) but my good books still haven't been checked in so they're not out of the woods yet. MCS will send me photos of the damage so I can make a claim through UPS but they no longer have the packaging so I suspect UPS will use that to reject it.

And on top of that my biggest sale so far was returned to me because the buyer's credit card was declined. This is all suddenly going downhill for me.

[rokstarr99]

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[smanzari]

Originally Posted by rokstarr99

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I saw this and its not being offered at M&M - anyone know where to pre-order one?

EDIT: NVM, The Comic Mint - They've got some GREAT exclusive covers IMO

I really wish the Joker 80th had covers that were as good! (I don't like any, not sure which one to Preorder!)

[arek]

I wonder if the Black Widow film will be pushed back because of the virus outbreak. New Mutants is pushed back, again

[jdandns]

That "New Mutants" movie really has been snake-bit.
When it finally comes out, if it's a hit, and a sequel is ordered, they'd probably need a new team since these kids would've graduated to the X-Men by then.

As for Vin Diesel's "Bloodshot", now playing, it couldn't have landed a worse day to open, as it turned out.

[arek]

Originally Posted by jdandns

That "New Mutants" movie really has been snake-bit.
When it finally comes out, if it's a hit, and a sequel is ordered, they'd probably need a new team since these kids would've graduated to the X-Men by then.

As for Vin Diesel's "Bloodshot", now playing, it couldn't have landed a worse day to open, as it turned out.

It is bad timing, yet I never pictured Bloodshot generating a significant box office return. Based on the trailer the film looked fairly average.