2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[TheHeel]

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/ei...rolling-obama/

"A YouTube video titled “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim” has been viewed nearly 17 million times since April 2009. But it’s totally bogus and the result of deceptive editing.

For example, when Obama says “I am one of them,” he doesn’t mean that he is a Muslim. He was talking about being like others who either have Muslim relatives or have lived in countries with large Muslim populations. At other times, the video edits out the words “I’m a Christian” and “my Christian faith” from Obama’s quotes."

This is getting old. He is either a troll or a gullible simpleton.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by rman112

I understand what you're saying. Trust me, I do. But consider this.. what news sources aren't owned/funded by powerful people that want to control and influence what gets printed?

So we should not believe anything that the multiple large news media groups that have been around for decades? Even when we see and hear it for ourselves?

We should just believe those pop up sites like The Gateway Pundit or Christian Times Newspaper? Alex Jones, the guy who said Sandy Hook was staged, is an honest guy for your go to news?

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by Astros19

By the way, all of you "not my president" folks who have Monday off for Presidents day, make sure and stand up for your principles and get your butts to work!

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Who said that? I do not recall anyone stating that.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

So we should not believe anything that the multiple large news media groups that have been around for decades? Even when we see and hear it for ourselves?

We should just believe those pop up sites like The Gateway Pundit or Christian Times Newspaper? Alex Jones, the guy who said Sandy Hook was staged, is an honest guy for your go to news?

I'm saying that even "trusted" news sources can be full of crap, too. Or even worse, sit on damning stories. Remember when it came out that ABC squashed Epstein knowledge? Other sites are less strict. Some for good, some not.

You make a very good point. I'm very much for trusting your eyes/ears/instincts, even when others try and sway you the opposite way.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Who said that? I do not recall anyone stating that.

You do realize that just because your party lost the election you didnt have to lose your sense of humor along with it right?

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[jdandns]

I didn't lose mine. Here:

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Who said that? I do not recall anyone stating that.

'Stros is sure he heard someone banging it out in Morse code on metal trashcan lids.

Besides, I thought anti-Trumpers didn't have jobs to stay home from.

Whatever, we can still take the day to celebrate Presidents who didn't lose the popular vote by 3 million.

Originally Posted by rman112

I understand what you're saying. Trust me, I do. But consider this.. what news sources aren't owned/funded by powerful people that want to control and influence what gets printed?

The truth can't be stopped ultimately. It isn't hiding only in the shadowy corners of people like chezball's minds even as those same people tell us not to believe what we can see with our own eyes. If any of their bizarre theories were actually true, nothing could stop them from being widely known. No one has that kind of power. The Junior Rusty Shackleford Patrol sure is out in force today, though. Hmmm. What can it mean?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by chezball

Why wasn't he sued? Why are his records sealed, what is he hiding?

Why wasn't Sinclair sued? Because only morons and halfwits believed it. And sued for what? Slander? Defamation of character? Most mail order attorneys know that public figures have a lot more to lose than to gain chasing those cases....mostly time and money.

As far as his records being sealed? No clue what you're referring to. Sinclair's records? The guy has quite the public rap sheet. I mean, it doesn't fit you're narrative...so there's that.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by rman112

You never replied to any of the Iowa stuff?

Astros cheating in 2018 and 2019 is BS too, yes? Just check out Manfred's report. #facts

As a rule, I don't put much merit into conspiracy theories, because very rarely do they produce anything tangible.

Regarding the connections around the company behind the app and the Buttigieg campaign...cool. Fortunately, both the Sanders campaign and the Buttigieg campaign are working on a recanvas of Iowa....but I don't recall seeing Sanders declaring some vast conspiracy. Both campaigns were in tune with Iowa and the results, long before Iowa released the numbers.

We need to move away from the mindset that connections immediately mean nefarious activity.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/ei...rolling-obama/

"A YouTube video titled “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim” has been viewed nearly 17 million times since April 2009. But it’s totally bogus and the result of deceptive editing.

For example, when Obama says “I am one of them,” he doesn’t mean that he is a Muslim. He was talking about being like others who either have Muslim relatives or have lived in countries with large Muslim populations. At other times, the video edits out the words “I’m a Christian” and “my Christian faith” from Obama’s quotes."

This is getting old. He is either a troll or a gullible simpleton.

This sounds strangely like the "there's good people on both sides" situation.
Can you at least acknowledge both sides stretch the truth?

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

So we should not believe anything that the multiple large news media groups that have been around for decades? Even when we see and hear it for ourselves?



We should just believe those pop up sites like The Gateway Pundit or Christian Times Newspaper? Alex Jones, the guy who said Sandy Hook was staged, is an honest guy for your go to news?

Tell it to Nick Sandmann.

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[jdandns]

Originally Posted by discostu

As a rule, I don't put much merit into conspiracy theories, because very rarely do they produce anything tangible.

We need to move away from the mindset that connections immediately mean nefarious activity.

All they have is rabbit holes.
So very many rabbit holes.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I didn't lose mine. Here:



'Stros is sure he heard someone banging it out in Morse code on metal trashcan lids.

Besides, I thought anti-Trumpers didn't have jobs to stay home from.

Whatever, we can still take the day to celebrate Presidents who didn't lose the popular vote by 3 million.



The truth can't be stopped ultimately. It isn't hiding only in the shadowy corners of people like chezball's minds even as those same people tell us not to believe what we can see with our own eyes. If any of their bizarre theories were actually true, nothing could stop them from being widely known. No one has that kind of power. The Junior Rusty Shackleford Patrol sure is out in force today, though. Hmmm. What can it mean?

Boy, you sure have turned into a bitter person. By all means please keep it up with the Astros jokes. It pretty much makes my day knowing you got nothing else.
Maybe some day you'll get your sense of humor back. I'll pray for you.

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[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

All they have is rabbit holes.

So very many rabbit holes.

And the presidency, don't forget that.

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[cnewby]

Originally Posted by discostu

As a rule, I don't put much merit into conspiracy theories, because very rarely do they produce anything tangible.

Regarding the connections around the company behind the app and the Buttigieg campaign...cool. Fortunately, both the Sanders campaign and the Buttigieg campaign are working on a recanvas of Iowa....but I don't recall seeing Sanders declaring some vast conspiracy. Both campaigns were in tune with Iowa and the results, long before Iowa released the numbers.

We need to move away from the mindset that connections immediately mean nefarious activity.

Oh the irony

[TheFrenzy]

Can we get a "diet" Politics thread?

One that has all the great flavor of politics without the fattening conspiracy theories?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by jdandns

The truth can't be stopped ultimately. It isn't hiding only in the shadowy corners of people like chezball's minds even as those same people tell us not to believe what we can see with our own eyes. If any of their bizarre theories were actually true, nothing could stop them from being widely known. No one has that kind of power. The Junior Rusty Shackleford Patrol sure is out in force today, though. Hmmm. What can it mean?

Disagree. Not talking about any particular idea or theory, but rather the idea that truths can't be squashed with success.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by discostu

As a rule, I don't put much merit into conspiracy theories, because very rarely do they produce anything tangible.

Regarding the connections around the company behind the app and the Buttigieg campaign...cool. Fortunately, both the Sanders campaign and the Buttigieg campaign are working on a recanvas of Iowa....but I don't recall seeing Sanders declaring some vast conspiracy. Both campaigns were in tune with Iowa and the results, long before Iowa released the numbers.

We need to move away from the mindset that connections immediately mean nefarious activity.

So to be clear:

The DID work against Bernie in 2016, but they're not doing it now?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Can we get a "diet" Politics thread?

One that has all the great flavor of politics without the fattening conspiracy theories?

Hey. Chill out, and take everything the New York Times tells you happened at face value.

[rman112]

The Iowa app people were Clinton people, btw. The idea that the DNC (which, let's be real.. was essentially the Clinton party) mucked things up in favor of her, and against Bernie, in 2016 .. but aren't doing things now, in favor of Pete, and against Bernie .. is ridiculous.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by rman112

Hey. Chill out, and take everything the New York Times tells you happened at face value.

I'm pretty sure the boarding station for the crazy train is right here.

Now The End Begins

[rman112]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I'm pretty sure the boarding station for the crazy train is right here.

Now The End Begins

Too many pictures.

The worst are the websites with the articles that say "Page 1 of 20", and you have to click through to each one, getting a popup every time. And the popup advertisement is for the weird fruit that makes you grow 5 inches in size, guaranteed. Or that old guy with the white beard that got shredded with this one simple trick.

[RedSoxFan28]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Yes it is.

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[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Boy, you sure have turned into a bitter person. By all means please keep it up with the Astros jokes. It pretty much makes my day knowing you got nothing else.
Maybe some day you'll get your sense of humor back. I'll pray for you.

In one hand, sure.

You're telling me you wouldn't be ripping the Dodgers if they'd done the same thing to the Astros? Right. You'd be blaming Hollywood or something oddball like that as we speak. One of your players even made a racist gesture mocking a pitcher whose signs they'd stolen in that series. Uggh.

I am a lifelong Dodger fan, sir, and it is also my responsibility to assign regret to cheaters who have been caught. This is an unfortunate mix for your team (and the no-account man you make excuses for) here. Sorry they are right back to never having won a title, but where's your sense of humor? With your sense of shame? Your current avatar remains an affront to anyone who values fair play in baseball. Those jokes I told were all ones you called for, and they will certainly continue.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

In one hand, sure.

You're telling me you wouldn't be ripping the Dodgers if they'd done the same thing to the Astros? Right. You'd be blaming Hollywood or something oddball like that as we speak. One of your players even made a racist gesture mocking a pitcher whose signs they'd stolen in that series. Uggh.

I am a lifelong Dodger fan, sir, and it is also my responsibility to assign regret to cheaters who have been caught. This is an unfortunate mix for your team (and the no-account man you make excuses for) here. Sorry they are right back to never having won a title, but where's your sense of humor? With your sense of shame? Your current avatar remains an affront to anyone who values fair play in baseball. Those jokes I told were all ones you called for, and they will certainly continue.

Confirmed.
He's got nothing else.

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[jdandns]

It's almost a patriotism kind of thing.